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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    edited April 2020
    OnWis97 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    great weather so went out for lunch with a friend



    One sneeze from the waitstaff and everyone's comfort level is shaken.
    Happy to try to help our local saluhall ("market hall"?) survive. The restaurants/delicatessen stores had problems even before Corona.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,876
    mcgruff10 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Mario Kart, Bro
    Clip Clop

    This thread has some funny sayings
    How you holding up in cherry hill? 
    Think we already had the virus and survived but no way to know until testing and it would be a huge relief given our worry about my wife getting it and how it might effect her 
    Luckily nobody we know directly has died from it yet 
    People appear to be behaving responsibly, which is good.
    What about your hood?
    Same here.  In february my wife had really bad shortness of breath, felt like someone was sitting on her chest.  Doctor asked her if she had recently visited China and of course she said no.  Got an inhaler and over a few weeks it got better (Dr. said if the shortness of breath got any worse she should head to the er.)  
    She still has some shortness of breath from to time to time.  Her dad had the same exact symptoms right after she got it and I had some sort of virus in early March.  (Chills, sweating, joint ache.)
    Otherwise juggling remote teaching and learning have been quite stressful at times but we are getting through it.  We try to order out once a week to feel normal.  Last night we got Jersey MIke's.  
    Lakewood is directly south of us so our numbers and the surrounding towns have had really high numbers of infections.  
    Hopefully you all have had it and are in the clear.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    You can't open up parts of the country if schools aren't open.  The kids need some sort of care and if parents are working the kids most of the time can't be left alone.
  • chiwhitesox
    chiwhitesox Chicago Posts: 696
    What's everyone's opinion of this report from LA County?

    Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

    So out of 221,000 to 442,000 adults who had Coronavirus, 600 died.

    Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health adds,

    The data suggests the county’s mortality rate is around 0.1% or 0.2% of true infections.

    FWIW...my opinion is we're absolutely not testing enough and have completely mismanaged this entire thing.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    This past weekend this hospital discharged its 1,000th Corona patient and the very 1st C19 intubated pt has been moved to a rehab center and it’s now testing negative after 6 1/2 weeks on ventilator..I’m staying positive 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,173
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Mario Kart, Bro
    Clip Clop

    This thread has some funny sayings
    How you holding up in cherry hill? 
    Think we already had the virus and survived but no way to know until testing and it would be a huge relief given our worry about my wife getting it and how it might effect her 
    Luckily nobody we know directly has died from it yet 
    People appear to be behaving responsibly, which is good.
    What about your hood?
    It would be great to know. A lot of people think they may have already had it. I know in early March I had this weird burning back pain and slight fever. The back pain was severe enough to send me to Urgent Care. Then I lost my sense of smell for about 3 days. I was going around the house trying to smell things. Couldn't tell the difference between garlic and oranges. But my whole episode lasted only about 5 days - and no cough or respiratory symptoms. So, who knows. Reliable antibody tests will be really helpful to many of us.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    josevolution said:
    This past weekend this hospital discharged its 1,000th Corona patient and the very 1st C19 intubated pt has been moved to a rehab center and it’s now testing negative after 6 1/2 weeks on ventilator..I’m staying positive 
    Only 1 person survived on the ventilator?  That's not good news but at least 1 was saved.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,876
    Indeed we can look forward to those tests!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2020
    chiwhitesox said:
    What's everyone's opinion of this report from LA County?

    Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

    So out of 221,000 to 442,000 adults who had Coronavirus, 600 died.

    Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health adds,

    The data suggests the county’s mortality rate is around 0.1% or 0.2% of true infections.

    FWIW...my opinion is we're absolutely not testing enough and have completely mismanaged this entire thing.
    These are the numbers I’m interested in.  How can we get an accurate mortality rate before mass antibody studies with this somewhat asymptomatic virus?  My wife’s doctor called and said they have tests available, so she is going to get tested this afternoon.  We had some shit at the end of January/early February that was almost identical to the COVID-19 identified symptoms.  Reports are saying that it was most likely in the US as of early February... I guess we’ll see.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,784
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    This past weekend this hospital discharged its 1,000th Corona patient and the very 1st C19 intubated pt has been moved to a rehab center and it’s now testing negative after 6 1/2 weeks on ventilator..I’m staying positive 
    Only 1 person survived on the ventilator?  That's not good news but at least 1 was saved.
    No he was the very 1st covid patient to be admitted that had to be intubated , lots of intubated patients have pulled through 
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You can't open up parts of the country if schools aren't open.  The kids need some sort of care and if parents are working the kids most of the time can't be left alone.
    Dude, most of us grew up alone, did we not? 

    And we turned out fine. I mean, we're pretty much the only generation being responsible about this whole thing.

    Roger Waters said it best, "Leave them kids alone."
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    A study suggesting Sean Hannity’s shows helped to spread Covid-19.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    PJPOWER said:
    chiwhitesox said:
    What's everyone's opinion of this report from LA County?

    Based on results of the first round of testing, the research team estimates that approximately 4.1% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus. Adjusting this estimate for statistical margin of error implies about 2.8% to 5.6% of the county’s adult population has antibody to the virus- which translates to approximately 221,000 to 442,000 adults in the county who have had the infection. That estimate is 28 to 55 times higher than the 7,994 confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the county by the time of the study in early April. The number of COVID-related deaths in the county has now surpassed 600.

    So out of 221,000 to 442,000 adults who had Coronavirus, 600 died.

    Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health adds,

    The data suggests the county’s mortality rate is around 0.1% or 0.2% of true infections.

    FWIW...my opinion is we're absolutely not testing enough and have completely mismanaged this entire thing.
    These are the numbers I’m interested in.  How can we get an accurate mortality rate before mass antibody studies with this somewhat asymptomatic virus?  My wife’s doctor called and said they have tests available, so she is going to get tested this afternoon.  We had some shit at the end of January/early February that was almost identical to the COVID-19 identified symptoms.  Reports are saying that it was definitely in the US as of early February... I guess we’ll see.

    Speaking of 0,1-0,2 % mortality rate.



    Mortality in covid-19 could be much lower than expected.
    Maybe as low as 0.2 percent, instead of three percent that was initially predicted.
    - Yes, it's not unreasonable. It is often the case that in the beginning, the mortality rate of a new virus appears to be quite high, says Deputy State Epidemiologist Anders Wallensten.

    So far, with around a thousand dead in Stockholm County and a few more until May 1, that would mean a death rate of 0.2 or 0.3 percent. Is it a reasonable estimate?
    - Yes, it is not unreasonable. It is often the case that in the beginning, the mortality rate of a new virus seems to be quite high, and then as you look it is smaller, because you also detect the mild cases, and can measure them, says Wallensten.

    In early March, WHO estimated that covid-19 mortality was 3.4 percent among those infected. Later, one per cent was mentioned as a possible level, which should be compared with 0.1 per cent mortality, which is often stated for seasonal influenza.

    Does this mean that mortality is close to a regular seasonal flu?
    - We must see, I don't think it will be that low, says Wallensten. And it should be noted that there is a difference between a seasonal flu where many have had immunity from previous influenzas. This means that fewer people get sick at the same time. Regardless, this has been a tremendous stress for our healthcare, in a completely different way, than a seasonal flu, says Wallensten.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    bbiggs said:
    A study suggesting Sean Hannity’s shows helped to spread Covid-19.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death
    Alternate headline: 

    Watching Tucker Carlson saved lives
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    bbiggs said:
    A study suggesting Sean Hannity’s shows helped to spread Covid-19.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death
    It becomes clear as you continue to read, but you have to get 30 paragraphs in before you reach this...kinda important...caveat. Wild headline, though.


  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    mfc2006 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes? 

    Amazed at all the peeps that can work from home..Easy to judge those that don't have that luxury..
    No judgment here at all. Actually I haven't seen anyone here that's working from home pass judgment on those that can't. 

    I honestly think it sucks that people aren't working. I've seen the direct impact that it's had on friends and family & we try to help them as much as we can.

    That being said, I think that it is irresponsible to open the country/world when there are so many unknowns and because this virus has NOT just disappeared like the president hoped that it would. If I wasn't able to work from home or wasn't working, my opinion would be the same. I'd rather live and wait this out until there are viable treatments options and/or a vaccine. 

    I am very happy that there are people that can work from home.  Some of my family and friends are able to and because of that, I don't need to worry about their financial well being.  Of course, at the same I feel like shit being stuck at home and not working.   But it's what I have to so.  And I feel the same way as you about living and waiting this out until there are treatments of a vaccine.  I just have to find a way to preserve my sanity and sense of worth. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,671
    bbiggs said:
    Here's what I don't understand about the U.S.'s approach.  Just about every state bought in to the stay at home orders.  This lasted 4-5 weeks or so and many states are now starting to get antsy and want to open back up.  In the meantime, the virus cases and deaths continue to rise, so we haven't seen the peak.  What was the point in locking down to begin with if you weren't going to at least ride it out until after the peak?  Seems pretty pointless to me.  It's the wild west around here with no sense of direction.  Buckle up.

    Totally agree.  We get half way to the goal and then throw in the towel.  It's ridiculous.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    josevolution said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    This past weekend this hospital discharged its 1,000th Corona patient and the very 1st C19 intubated pt has been moved to a rehab center and it’s now testing negative after 6 1/2 weeks on ventilator..I’m staying positive 
    Only 1 person survived on the ventilator?  That's not good news but at least 1 was saved.
    No he was the very 1st covid patient to be admitted that had to be intubated , lots of intubated patients have pulled through 
    That is GREAT news then Jose.  I feel much better that you told me this.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    You can't open up parts of the country if schools aren't open.  The kids need some sort of care and if parents are working the kids most of the time can't be left alone.
    Dude, most of us grew up alone, did we not? 

    And we turned out fine. I mean, we're pretty much the only generation being responsible about this whole thing.

    Roger Waters said it best, "Leave them kids alone."
    It doesn't necessarily make it right though?

    Parents rely on school as a caretaker.

    Just sayin'.
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