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  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 765
    mace1229 said:
    Saw several posts mocking protesters. Is anyone surprised that is happening? And in many cases, I support the protesters. We have a father being arrested for playing catch in an empty park. Church goers were fined $500 for listening to a sermon in their car via the radio with windows rolled up. Michigan banning gardening sales (although many sources/people will tell you that isn’t true because the ban only prevents stores bigger than 50,000 square feet from selling gardening supplies, but what stores smaller than that sell it and are open?). All while I can stand in line to buy beer and lottery tickets. It’s not about saving lives when a mayor says you can’t listen to a sermon in your car 20 feet away from any other car but then says go ahead and stand in that line to buy a lottery ticket.  And the list of ridiculous bans and enforcement grows every day. 

    So if someone wants to protest because their business was shut down or because they got a $500 ticket for listening to a sermon while they watch people line up to buy alcohol across the street, I won’t blame them.
    This might all be well and good if the protests weren't all being organized by one rich family that's more concerned with political football than public safety or the economy.
    pjl44 said:
    At a bare minimum, I'd say don't block roads and cover your faces. I agree that it would be tricky to properly distance. 
    These chuds usually wear balaclavas to protect their identities. But doing that now that would be giving in to (((the MSM))), I guess.
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    rgambs said:
    Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?
    First thought, Metallica.
    Second thought, Gary Busey in Black Sheep.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rgambs said:
    Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?
    Close:
    'crackpot dumbass racist'
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    JW269453 said:
    rgambs said:
    Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?
    First thought, Metallica.
    Same. I never even knew it was a saying. 
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    rgambs said:
    Does anybody else automatically think "crackpot dumbass" every time they see a Don't Tread on Me flag?

    I think of Metallica.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I get freaked out every time I see one of those Coronavirus testing illustrations.  If it meant living on rice and catsup for months on end, I would avoid going out just to not have to have that test administered.  I hope they come up with something less painfully invasive.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    brianlux said:
    I get freaked out every time I see one of those Coronavirus testing illustrations.  If it meant living on rice and catsup for months on end, I would avoid going out just to not have to have that test administered.  I hope they come up with something less painfully invasive.
    I'm with you. Hopefully I can avoid it until the saliva or blood tests are more widespread. With my luck I'd get the Waco Kid coming at me with that footlong swab.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    pjl44 said:
    brianlux said:
    I get freaked out every time I see one of those Coronavirus testing illustrations.  If it meant living on rice and catsup for months on end, I would avoid going out just to not have to have that test administered.  I hope they come up with something less painfully invasive.
    I'm with you. Hopefully I can avoid it until the saliva or blood tests are more widespread. With my luck I'd get the Waco Kid coming at me with that footlong swab.

    My wife thinks I'm crazy to say this but I'd much rather have blood drawn  or be poked with a needle than to have a swab shoved up my face!   A saliva test would be best- I didn't know that is something they're working on.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Your wife’s crazy. I don’t want anything further into my nose than my finger can reach. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    brianlux said:
    I get freaked out every time I see one of those Coronavirus testing illustrations.  If it meant living on rice and catsup for months on end, I would avoid going out just to not have to have that test administered.  I hope they come up with something less painfully invasive.
    I'm with you. Hopefully I can avoid it until the saliva or blood tests are more widespread. With my luck I'd get the Waco Kid coming at me with that footlong swab.

    My wife thinks I'm crazy to say this but I'd much rather have blood drawn  or be poked with a needle than to have a swab shoved up my face!   A saliva test would be best- I didn't know that is something they're working on.
    Yeah, I'm with you and Dewie. Finger prick is nothing. Here's a story on the saliva test. At-home testing would be huge. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientist-saliva-test-breakthrough-sees-bridge-nationwide-coronavirus/story?id=70174505
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    23scidoo said:
    As i said in the past @Spiritual_Chaos, your country walks the wrong road..money over humans..

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy
    I read this yesterday and was pretty surprised. I thought the Swedes were the only ones with the right answer. /s  But seriously, what kind of public health policy would ignore asymptomatic spread (which is clearly a thing), and not just fail to recommend face masks be worn by workers, but actually advice NOT to wear face masks?

    “They have to admit that it’s a huge failure, since they have said the whole time that their main aim has been to protect the elderly,” she said. “But what is really strange is that they still do not acknowledge the likely route. They say it’s very unfortunate, that they are investigating, and that it’s a matter of the training personnel, but they will not acknowledge that presymptomatic or asymptomatic spread is a factor.”

    The agency’s advice to those managing and working at nursing homes, like its policy towards coronavirus in general, has been based on its judgment that the “spread from those without symptoms is responsible for a very limited share” of those who get infected.

    Its advice to the care workers and nurses looking after older people such as Bondesson’s 69-year-old mother is that they should not wear protective masks or use other protective equipment unless they are dealing with a resident in the home they have reason to suspect is infected.

    Otherwise the central protective measure in place is that staff should stay home if they detect any symptoms in themselves.

    “Where I’m working we don’t have face masks at all, and we are working with the most vulnerable people of all,” said one care home worker, who wanted to remain anonymous. “We don’t have hand sanitiser, just soap. That’s it. Everybody’s concerned about it. We are all worried.”

    “The worst thing is that it is us, the staff, who are taking the infection in to the elderly,” complained one nurse to Swedish public broadcaster SVT. “It’s unbelievable that more of them haven’t been infected. It’s a scandal.”

    Einhorn was one of 22 researchers who on Tuesday called for Sweden’s politicians to break with the country’s tradition of entrusting policy to its expert agencies, and to seize control of Sweden’s coronavirus strategy from the agency.

    She argues that the reason why Sweden has a much higher number of cases in care homes than in Norway and Finland is not because of the homes themselves, but because of Sweden’s decision to keep schools and kindergartens open, and not to shut restaurants or bars.

    “It’s not like it goes from one old age home to another. It comes in separately to all of these old age homes, so there’s no way it can be all be attributed to the personnel going in and working when they are sick. There’s a basic system fault in their recommendations. There’s no other explanation for it.”

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    23scidoo said:
    As i said in the past @Spiritual_Chaos, your country walks the wrong road..money over humans..

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy
    ...nicely done

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    pjl44 said:
    brianlux said:
    pjl44 said:
    brianlux said:
    I get freaked out every time I see one of those Coronavirus testing illustrations.  If it meant living on rice and catsup for months on end, I would avoid going out just to not have to have that test administered.  I hope they come up with something less painfully invasive.
    I'm with you. Hopefully I can avoid it until the saliva or blood tests are more widespread. With my luck I'd get the Waco Kid coming at me with that footlong swab.

    My wife thinks I'm crazy to say this but I'd much rather have blood drawn  or be poked with a needle than to have a swab shoved up my face!   A saliva test would be best- I didn't know that is something they're working on.
    Yeah, I'm with you and Dewie. Finger prick is nothing. Here's a story on the saliva test. At-home testing would be huge. 

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/scientist-saliva-test-breakthrough-sees-bridge-nationwide-coronavirus/story?id=70174505

    Excellent- thank you!

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    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    My wife has the noon news on.  I watched for a while but had to walk away from watching these stupid people protesting in Sacramento.  They're not distancing, lots without masks.   I guess they think they can't get sick.  And then the news shifts to Florida with its beaches opening and crowds of people.  This has nothing to do with opening up the economy and everything about stupid.  I just had to walk away from the TV.   So many idiots!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Newsweek headline.
    KENTUCKY REPORTS HIGHEST CORONAVIRUS INFECTION INCREASE AFTER A WEEK OF PROTESTS TO REOPEN STATE

    https://www.newsweek.com/kentucky-reports-highest-coronavirus-infection-increase-after-week-protests-reopen-state-1498835
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,130
    brianlux said:
    My wife has the noon news on.  I watched for a while but had to walk away from watching these stupid people protesting in Sacramento.  They're not distancing, lots without masks.   I guess they think they can't get sick.  And then the news shifts to Florida with its beaches opening and crowds of people.  This has nothing to do with opening up the economy and everything about stupid.  I just had to walk away from the TV.   So many idiots!
    What's funny about the beaches opening back up is, it was clearly stated that it was solely for exercise and fresh air purposes. The guidelines were clear when they stated no chairs, towels, coolers, and sunbathing were to be permitted. Now what you see from the images is people only heard what they wanted to hear which was beaches are reopen, and nothing else. Next thing you know the Jacksonville beaches look like a typical spring/summer break scene. They obviously did not enforce the guidelines. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,851
    pjl44 said:
    In short, yes, Novartis giving Michael Cohen a million bucks should throw up all sorts of red flags. But it has absolutely nothing to do with hydroxychloroquine.

    Me Donny. Me wanna be president. Me wanny me some money. Me likely Nortovirus  they give me money. Me supporty their druggies.
  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,332
    Lerxst1992 said:
    pjl44 said:
    In short, yes, Novartis giving Michael Cohen a million bucks should throw up all sorts of red flags. But it has absolutely nothing to do with hydroxychloroquine.

    Me Donny. Me wanna be president. Me wanny me some money. Me likely Nortovirus  they give me money. Me supporty their druggies.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Kat said:
    Newsweek headline.
    KENTUCKY REPORTS HIGHEST CORONAVIRUS INFECTION INCREASE AFTER A WEEK OF PROTESTS TO REOPEN STATE

    https://www.newsweek.com/kentucky-reports-highest-coronavirus-infection-increase-after-week-protests-reopen-state-1498835
    where is the old facepalm emoticon??

    :lol:
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