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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Lerxst1992 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    static111 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    The CCP must be made to pay for this.
    You realize that none of this would have happened if the world didn’t turn a blind eye to human rights abuses in China at the cost of getting cheap TVs and smart phones.  Anyone that’s out there buying cheap consumer goods is as responsible as anyone. Not China’s fault that the corporations of the west decided to do away with jobs in their own countries so they could make a higher profit off of Chinese labor.  Want to be mad at someone try the hundreds of corporations that move production offshore so they can report higher profits at the expense of labor both foreign and domestically.
    It’s always the big corporations. Jesus h Christ. 

    Certainly moving manufacturing to China didn’t include all the potential costs that we are now paying. But this is far more about the government in China then any corporation. Always the corporations fault... Jesus h Christ.

    It's kinda about the US govt receiving political contributions (aka bribes) from corporations and its owners to allow trading with china for cheap goods while they have minimal safety regulations. 

    What's the point of having an FDA to protect us if china doesnt regulate for safety and as a result they can send a deadly virus here quicker than a shipping container? 

    If there were ever a moment to examine the immorality of capitalism in our lifetime now would be that time.
    But what about the bottom line?...😭
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    tbergs said:
    The fact that trying to save lives and combat the virus has become overly political enrages me, but doesn't surprise me because of who the president is. He purposely avoided taking any action and now provokes these assholes to liberate. Fuck all of this. Work together and figure out a way to save lives you asshole!
    I heard an interview with a scientist working on the remdesivir treatment make a comment about the hydroquiniolooo (sp??) controversy: We have become so divided in this country, people are arguing over a drug. It's insane.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    brianlux said:
    densan said:
    I ventured out to drive the car, and discovered everyone here thinks it is over. 

    Oh, not good!  Where do you live?
    Lots of cars where I live too, which gave me pause -- but I finally realized many of them may be restaurant delivery drivers 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    what dreams said:
    brianlux said:
    densan said:
    I ventured out to drive the car, and discovered everyone here thinks it is over. 

    Oh, not good!  Where do you live?
    Lots of cars where I live too, which gave me pause -- but I finally realized many of them may be restaurant delivery drivers 

    Not a bad time to have a delivery job- lots of work, fewer commuters, inexpensive gas!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=422&v=4zjSr-rPDfI&feature=emb_title
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,809
    Do you have any statement on how you feel about that video that you present here?
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I gotta say, the comments and dramatic music turned me off as much as the video itself (I watched it in digestible bits).
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    what dreams said:
    brianlux said:
    densan said:
    I ventured out to drive the car, and discovered everyone here thinks it is over. 

    Oh, not good!  Where do you live?
    Lots of cars where I live too, which gave me pause -- but I finally realized many of them may be restaurant delivery drivers 
    A fair number of them here too.  I think the delivery drivers theory is correct.  And dispensaries deliver too! :lol:
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

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  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 767
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=422&v=4zjSr-rPDfI&feature=emb_title
    I'll save everyone a click: This is dumb, but also, what are they putting in the water? Let's get some thoughts on that.
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,962

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    If you're looking for a glimmer of hope

    https://news.yahoo.com/sunlight-destroys-coronavirus-very-quickly-new-government-tests-find-but-experts-say-pandemic-could-still-last-through-summer-200745675.html
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    what dreams said:
    tbergs said:
    The fact that trying to save lives and combat the virus has become overly political enrages me, but doesn't surprise me because of who the president is. He purposely avoided taking any action and now provokes these assholes to liberate. Fuck all of this. Work together and figure out a way to save lives you asshole!
    I heard an interview with a scientist working on the remdesivir treatment make a comment about the hydroquiniolooo (sp??) controversy: We have become so divided in this country, people are arguing over a drug. It's insane.



    The president has an equity interest in hydroquiniolooo and is advising citizens take the drug without scientific proof that it works against this disease nor whether it is safe to use in this crisis.


    it is stunning that could be interpreted as a “both sides” debate. (Not saying that is your intent, but it seems to be by many of potus defenders)
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    HHS discovers DuPont has a bunch of Tyvek on hand that can be made into coveralls for healthcare workers. But they can't easily buy direct since DuPont doesn't have a government contract. You'd think that could get knocked out fast but apparently it's easier to use someone who already has a contract as the middleman. Enter Grainger who is willing to be that middleman at the reasonable markup of 100%!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1187061?__twitter_impression=true
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    edited April 2020
    Mike D88 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=422&v=4zjSr-rPDfI&feature=emb_title
    I'll save everyone a click: This is dumb, but also, what are they putting in the water? Let's get some thoughts on that.


    That video is selfish, dangerous and possibly illegal if he were an American.

    i have been able to figure out how to purchase everything I need from the comfort of my home. And if I cant get a delivery time from the grocers, I have figured out secondary ways to acquire perishable products from the comfort of my home, or by using drive thru windows, curbside deliveries or figuring out secondary vendors to buy online from.

    Maybe I am really good with tech. I’d disagree as I am about average, but I have been able to teach my seasoned citizen mom how to shop like this. And to gauge how savvy her tech ability is, the lesson to forward and email took 20 minutes. The biggest regret there, was advising her to buy Apple instead of android. Apple is a horror of a software company. 
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  • pjl44
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    what dreams said:
    tbergs said:
    The fact that trying to save lives and combat the virus has become overly political enrages me, but doesn't surprise me because of who the president is. He purposely avoided taking any action and now provokes these assholes to liberate. Fuck all of this. Work together and figure out a way to save lives you asshole!
    I heard an interview with a scientist working on the remdesivir treatment make a comment about the hydroquiniolooo (sp??) controversy: We have become so divided in this country, people are arguing over a drug. It's insane.



    The president has an equity interest in hydroquiniolooo and is advising citizens take the drug without scientific proof that it works against this disease nor whether it is safe to use in this crisis.

    Even Vox couldn't run with this. Trump has some shares of Sanofi through a mutual fund. Hydroxychloroquine is a generic drug produced by about 15 different companies, of which Sanofi is one. And a single generic drug is not the bread and butter of a pharmaceutical company that brought in $40 billion last year.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/4/7/21211872/trump-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-covid19-drugs-sanofi-owns
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    what dreams said:
    tbergs said:
    The fact that trying to save lives and combat the virus has become overly political enrages me, but doesn't surprise me because of who the president is. He purposely avoided taking any action and now provokes these assholes to liberate. Fuck all of this. Work together and figure out a way to save lives you asshole!
    I heard an interview with a scientist working on the remdesivir treatment make a comment about the hydroquiniolooo (sp??) controversy: We have become so divided in this country, people are arguing over a drug. It's insane.



    The president has an equity interest in hydroquiniolooo and is advising citizens take the drug without scientific proof that it works against this disease nor whether it is safe to use in this crisis.

    Even Vox couldn't run with this. Trump has some shares of Sanofi through a mutual fund. Hydroxychloroquine is a generic drug produced by about 15 different companies, of which Sanofi is one. And a single generic drug is not the bread and butter of a pharmaceutical company that brought in $40 billion last year.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/4/7/21211872/trump-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-covid19-drugs-sanofi-owns


    Hmmmm....

    "one of the largest manufacturers of the drug, Novartis, previously paid Trump’s now-incarcerated former personal attorney Michael Cohen more than $1 million for healthcare policy insight following Trump’s election in 2016."
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    23scidoo said:

    Very cool! Thumbs up to my fatherland  :)

    I hope this is happening elsewhere. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    edited April 2020
    Lerxst1992 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    what dreams said:
    tbergs said:
    The fact that trying to save lives and combat the virus has become overly political enrages me, but doesn't surprise me because of who the president is. He purposely avoided taking any action and now provokes these assholes to liberate. Fuck all of this. Work together and figure out a way to save lives you asshole!
    I heard an interview with a scientist working on the remdesivir treatment make a comment about the hydroquiniolooo (sp??) controversy: We have become so divided in this country, people are arguing over a drug. It's insane.



    The president has an equity interest in hydroquiniolooo and is advising citizens take the drug without scientific proof that it works against this disease nor whether it is safe to use in this crisis.

    Even Vox couldn't run with this. Trump has some shares of Sanofi through a mutual fund. Hydroxychloroquine is a generic drug produced by about 15 different companies, of which Sanofi is one. And a single generic drug is not the bread and butter of a pharmaceutical company that brought in $40 billion last year.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/4/7/21211872/trump-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-covid19-drugs-sanofi-owns


    Hmmmm....

    "one of the largest manufacturers of the drug, Novartis, previously paid Trump’s now-incarcerated former personal attorney Michael Cohen more than $1 million for healthcare policy insight following Trump’s election in 2016."
    Hmmmmmmmm. I wonder if that's for

    A. A favorable environment for pharmaceutical companies, being one with about a dozen billion dollar drugs

    or

    B. The hope that if a viral pandemic hits in 3 years, he'll stump for a generic antimalarial produced by 15 other companies 

    Maybe a toss-up, but true healthcare geniuses know it's really B
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