pjl44 said:

DewieCox said:

rgambs said:

I don't hate Joe Rogan, but he is definitely the moron's smart man.
The dumbest people I know think he's just so smart lol

He has interesting interests and doesn’t really alienate anybody with his views. Well rounded enough to let smarter people do the work.

This is the point about Rogan that everyone who fills a diaper over him misses. His fans don't like him because they think he's smart. He tells you ten times in every podcast that he isn't. He has two areas of expertise: comedy and MMA. For everything else, he seeks out experts on certain topics and peppers them with questions from the average person's perspective. People appreciate humility which is why he has so much more of a following than those who shriek about him. 

densan said:

I ventured out to drive the car, and discovered everyone here thinks it is over. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Interview with Johan Giesecke in english.

Swedish expert: why lockdowns are the wrong policy

https://youtu.be/bfN2JWifLCY

Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:

UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based

The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only (and riskgroups)

This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product”

The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better

The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact

The paper was very much too pessimistic

Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway

The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown

The results will eventually be similar for all countries

Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.

The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%

At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Interview with Johan Giesecke in english.

Swedish expert: why lockdowns are the wrong policy

https://youtu.be/bfN2JWifLCY

Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:

UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based

The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only (and riskgroups)

This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product”

The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better

The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact

The paper was very much too pessimistic

Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway

The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown

The results will eventually be similar for all countries

Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.

The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%

At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available

So the NY Post sports photographer and bassist from Fountains of Wayne were “old and frail?”

Listen to the interview. Or it's best to not respond to the interview you don't care to listen to.

Thank you.

mfc2006 said:

Good afternoon, all.

I hope you and your families (& friends) are doing well. That's all I wanted to say, Be well, all.

F Me In The Brain said:

nicknyr15 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Those fools.  
You are excited about a video that begins by calling out the covid scam?

Conspiracy theories deserve their own thread, where anyone who believe this is a scam can discuss .  You have been asked before - please take your posts there.  This is for people who believe in facts and are sharing about what everyone is going through.

Didn’t he start a thread? And then it got shut down lol 

Yes but that doesn't change my overall ask....get outta here with that trash calling the virus a scam!
The new thread would likely burn to the ground quickly, again, but at least it wouldn't be here.

Hundreds of people died in NJ and NY again yesterday.  I feel pretty sure I survived having it but so many around us are not that fortunate.  Only a fool calls it a scam.

cincybearcat said:

static111 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

The CCP must be made to pay for this.

You realize that none of this would have happened if the world didn’t turn a blind eye to human rights abuses in China at the cost of getting cheap TVs and smart phones.  Anyone that’s out there buying cheap consumer goods is as responsible as anyone. Not China’s fault that the corporations of the west decided to do away with jobs in their own countries so they could make a higher profit off of Chinese labor.  Want to be mad at someone try the hundreds of corporations that move production offshore so they can report higher profits at the expense of labor both foreign and domestically.

It’s always the big corporations. Jesus h Christ. 

Certainly moving manufacturing to China didn’t include all the potential costs that we are now paying. But this is far more about the government in China then any corporation. Always the corporations fault... Jesus h Christ.