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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    fife said:
    mrussel1 said:
    fife said:
    As a person who can't vote in american (I'm canadian) i would say that this poll should be more indept.  don't ask if you are voting for Biden or Trump.  you should say:  are you voting for who you want to pick the next Supreme court justice?  Are you voting for who you want to pick who is going to run the DOJ, the Department of Education, department of energy and all the other departments. 

    all those things are so important.  you are not just picking a president. 
    What about the director of the OMB?  Isn't that super important?  Should I list that one too?
    I sense some passive aggressiveness here.  don't know if you saw my next post that I actually said sorry for being pretentious.



    I think what I'm putting off is sarcasm, not passive aggressive.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Biden
    Not reading through the whole thread is anyone else here angry at the democratic party for about as plain white toast a candidate as you can have?

    If anyone tells me that the democratic party is full of progressives I will point a finger at Mr Biden and ask, really?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Not reading through the whole thread is anyone else here angry at the democratic party for about as plain white toast a candidate as you can have?

    If anyone tells me that the democratic party is full of progressives I will point a finger at Mr Biden and ask, really?
    So being progressive means that you are either minority and/or young?  I'm glad to learn that Sanders isn't a progressive.  And why would you be 'angry' with the voters?  Seems pretty immature, tbh.  
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Not reading through the whole thread is anyone else here angry at the democratic party for about as plain white toast a candidate as you can have?

    If anyone tells me that the democratic party is full of progressives I will point a finger at Mr Biden and ask, really?
    Well, for me Biden is what I'm generally looking for. My confession - I have never voted Dem in a presidential election. I stopped voting GOP in the late 80's, got fed up, and have voted 3rd party most of my life. This time around I said I'd vote for whomever received the Dem nomination. As a centrist and moderate I'm happy to not only vote Biden, but support and promote him. Plain, white toast perhaps. Compassionate, reliable, respected, and vastly experienced (in Legislative and Executive roles) as well. Just the candidate we need to bring the country back to a level of respect and leadership after the shitshow of the past 4 years. I am Team Biden. I am not disappointed, but rather encouraged that we have a candidate who has broad appeal and does not represent an extreme or fringe faction of a party. Could he be a better speaker? Sure. Could he be more progressive on some issues? Sure. But now is not the time for experiments, cults of personality, or further division. Now is the time to right the sinking ship.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    Biden
    I feel that VP Joe is more progressive than he's given credit for. He's the one that encouraged President Obama to take action on same-sex marriage. That was pretty darn progressive. There may have been much more but we'll see how he governs, if there's any justice in the world at all. I have to believe there is.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    I'm sitting this one out
    Kat said:
    I feel that VP Joe is more progressive than he's given credit for. He's the one that encouraged President Obama to take action on same-sex marriage. That was pretty darn progressive. There may have been much more but we'll see how he governs, if there's any justice in the world at all. I have to believe there is.
    Not according to himself


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Not reading through the whole thread is anyone else here angry at the democratic party for about as plain white toast a candidate as you can have?

    If anyone tells me that the democratic party is full of progressives I will point a finger at Mr Biden and ask, really?
    So being progressive means that you are either minority and/or young?  I'm glad to learn that Sanders isn't a progressive.  And why would you be 'angry' with the voters?  Seems pretty immature, tbh.  
    Nobody said being progressive is minority or young, it just isn't Biden...
    Why am I angry?  Because it will be business as usual with Biden in there...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Biden
    jeffbr said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Not reading through the whole thread is anyone else here angry at the democratic party for about as plain white toast a candidate as you can have?

    If anyone tells me that the democratic party is full of progressives I will point a finger at Mr Biden and ask, really?
    Well, for me Biden is what I'm generally looking for. My confession - I have never voted Dem in a presidential election. I stopped voting GOP in the late 80's, got fed up, and have voted 3rd party most of my life. This time around I said I'd vote for whomever received the Dem nomination. As a centrist and moderate I'm happy to not only vote Biden, but support and promote him. Plain, white toast perhaps. Compassionate, reliable, respected, and vastly experienced (in Legislative and Executive roles) as well. Just the candidate we need to bring the country back to a level of respect and leadership after the shitshow of the past 4 years. I am Team Biden. I am not disappointed, but rather encouraged that we have a candidate who has broad appeal and does not represent an extreme or fringe faction of a party. Could he be a better speaker? Sure. Could he be more progressive on some issues? Sure. But now is not the time for experiments, cults of personality, or further division. Now is the time to right the sinking ship.
    You put it in a very good light and I will hope that it goes the way you say.  I'm ok with it if both sides of the aisle can cross over and say hello again.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    mrussel1 said:
    fife said:
    mrussel1 said:
    fife said:
    As a person who can't vote in american (I'm canadian) i would say that this poll should be more indept.  don't ask if you are voting for Biden or Trump.  you should say:  are you voting for who you want to pick the next Supreme court justice?  Are you voting for who you want to pick who is going to run the DOJ, the Department of Education, department of energy and all the other departments. 

    all those things are so important.  you are not just picking a president. 
    What about the director of the OMB?  Isn't that super important?  Should I list that one too?
    I sense some passive aggressiveness here.  don't know if you saw my next post that I actually said sorry for being pretentious.



    I think what I'm putting off is sarcasm, not passive aggressive.  

    sorry guess my sarcasm monitor is broken.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    I'm sitting this one out
    The WORKING CLASS HERO about what Biden needs to do

    https://youtu.be/an_8D9ZXAT4
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Biden
    Trump has royally fucked up our country in many ways...too many to list here. That's a fact. In order to un-fuck our country (and also the world), he needs to be a one term president. That being said, I decided long ago that I would vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is. And it looks like that is Biden.

    I sincerely hope that everyone gets out and votes. Whether it's a mail in ballot or wearing a fucking hazmat suit to the local polling place. I hope everyone votes.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Kat said:
    I feel that VP Joe is more progressive than he's given credit for. He's the one that encouraged President Obama to take action on same-sex marriage. That was pretty darn progressive. There may have been much more but we'll see how he governs, if there's any justice in the world at all. I have to believe there is.
    Not according to himself


    Thank you for proving my point. He's considered an unwavering champion now. :) Stay safe and healthy.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/joe-biden-gay-marriage-equality

    Falling down,...not staying down
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited April 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Bernie "We are gonna be talking with Joe"

    Haha, what the fuck do Bernie want to endorse him? 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Biden
    Kat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Kat said:
    I feel that VP Joe is more progressive than he's given credit for. He's the one that encouraged President Obama to take action on same-sex marriage. That was pretty darn progressive. There may have been much more but we'll see how he governs, if there's any justice in the world at all. I have to believe there is.
    Not according to himself


    Thank you for proving my point. He's considered an unwavering champion now. :) Stay safe and healthy.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/joe-biden-gay-marriage-equality

    Yup. That article was 22 years old. I can't speak for the rest of you, but my views on a lot of things have changed quite a bit from when I was 20.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
    www.cluthelee.com
    www.cluthe.com
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,554
    I'm sitting this one out
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    CM189191 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I'm hoping the Libertarians nominate someone I can get behind, but it's looking bleak. For a while I was convinced Justin Amash would throw his hat in the ring, which would be awesome. With the current state of the world I'm not sure if that makes it more or less likely. 
    The US is a 2 party system.  Our checks and balances lie within the 3 coequal branches of government.  A vote for 3rd party only serves to support the lesser candidate.
    Gary Johnson was on the ballot in all 50 states in 2016 and the Libertarian Presidential candidate likely will be this year, too. There will also be Libertarian candidates running in many US Senate and House races. At this point it is the longest of longshots that any will win, but the path to being elected is pretty straightforward and the same as Ds and Rs. No convoluted logic changes that and this is pretty obvious to everyone unless one's motive is to bully people into voting for their preferred candidate. 
    Bingo. And that motive will only deter and backfire. 
    If a Trump supporter decided to go on message boards and push undecideds/independents away from Biden, this is the blueprint on how to do it. It's conduct that repels you instead of persuading you.
    You can honestly say you could be persuaded? 
    Me, personally? Probably less so than most.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Kat said:
    I feel that VP Joe is more progressive than he's given credit for. He's the one that encouraged President Obama to take action on same-sex marriage. That was pretty darn progressive. There may have been much more but we'll see how he governs, if there's any justice in the world at all. I have to believe there is.
    Not according to himself


    What do you mean? Kats statement was 100% correct.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    I'm sitting this one out
    https://youtu.be/kZnec2_Ku2o
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Pete is getting home haircuts.  
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,968
    Biden
    Aren't we all?  :rofl:
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Biden
    Kat said:
    Aren't we all?  :rofl:
    I went with a full home body wax.  It looks exquisite.  

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