"Gigaton" and its tracks on the charts

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    BF25394 said:
    Maybe if that guy buys Gigaton this week, it will keep it from falling out of the top 100.
    he'll most likely stream it
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    edited April 2020
    BillboardCharts
    This week's top 10 on the #Artist100:

    1. @theweeknd (17th week at No. 1)
    3. @PearlJam (re-entry)
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    Not in the top 20 for next week
    https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=320835
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    I wasn't kidding about it falling out of the top 100.  The sales could drop by 90 percent, and there was already very little streaming.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    igotid88 said:
    Not in the top 20 for next week
    https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=320835
    That's normal isn't it?  For a veteran rock band?  All the diehards buy it the first week, then there's no one left to buy it in subsequent weeks.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    Zod said:
    igotid88 said:
    Not in the top 20 for next week
    https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=320835
    That's normal isn't it?  For a veteran rock band?  All the diehards buy it the first week, then there's no one left to buy it in subsequent weeks.
    Yes. But you'd think there would be more diehards
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    Like I said. Rollingstone has it at #7
    https://www.rollingstone.com/charts/albums/
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    Great album, too bad it wasn’t promoted more by a band with a 7 year layoff.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    Billboard doesn't count bundles from 3rd party sites. So if you bought the shirt or hoodie with the download other than from here. It won't count 
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  • pjruss
    pjruss Posts: 657
    vedpunk said:
    Great album, too bad it wasn’t promoted more by a band with a 7 year layoff.
    Of course I have no way of knowing for sure, but I believe they were going to do a lot of promotion for the album until everything got shut down. 
    The Apollo show was being heavily promoted. 
    The billboards around the world with the album cover weeks ago. 
    They were going to be on tour, likely playing the new songs before the release. That hopefully would’ve gotten more casual fans interested in hearing the new album. 

    Again, no way to say for sure, but I think there were big plans to promote this album. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Zod said:
    igotid88 said:
    Not in the top 20 for next week
    https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=320835
    That's normal isn't it?  For a veteran rock band?  All the diehards buy it the first week, then there's no one left to buy it in subsequent weeks.
    It's normal for a chart that factors in streaming.  It was not the norm-- at least not to this extent-- when the chart measured only sales.  The album will not drop as precipitously on Top Album Sales next week as it will on the Billboard 200.  Having said that, nothing is normal right now so we should take most of these data with a grain of salt.  The first-week sales do tell us something because they reflect pre-orders, many of which were made before the shutdown.

    And there is still this open question about whether direct sales from the Ten Club are being counted.  I have not been able to obtain any confirmation that they are included in the Soundscan totals.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    igotid88 said:
    Billboard doesn't count bundles from 3rd party sites. So if you bought the shirt or hoodie with the download other than from here. It won't count 
    It's more complicated than that.  The sales count if the merch is also separately available and if the bundle is priced at least $3.49 higher than the merch is priced separately.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Billboard doesn't count bundles from 3rd party sites. So if you bought the shirt or hoodie with the download other than from here. It won't count 
    It's more complicated than that.  The sales count if the merch is also separately available and if the bundle is priced at least $3.49 higher than the merch is priced separately.
    Yes. But from the bands site.
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  • igotid88
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    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    edited April 2020
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,646
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
    Obviously if you include all 3. But I'm going by the original video when first released. The Strokes video reached a million faster. Both did. SBWM took almost 2 weeks to reach a million. 
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
    Obviously if you include all 3. But I'm going by the original video when first released. The Strokes video reached a million faster. Both did. SBWM took almost 2 weeks to reach a million. 
    The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago so they've had plenty of time to hit more views.  Even though there are 3 DOTC videos, they still add up to much more than the Strokes.
  • igotid88
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    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
    Obviously if you include all 3. But I'm going by the original video when first released. The Strokes video reached a million faster. Both did. SBWM took almost 2 weeks to reach a million. 
    The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago so they've had plenty of time to hit more views.  Even though there are 3 DOTC videos, they still add up to much more than the Strokes.
    No. Bad Decisions and At the Door were released after DOTC and had more views. At The Door was only released a week before SBWM and has over 3 million. SBWM has 1.8
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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    edited April 2020
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
    Obviously if you include all 3. But I'm going by the original video when first released. The Strokes video reached a million faster. Both did. SBWM took almost 2 weeks to reach a million. 
    The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago so they've had plenty of time to hit more views.  Even though there are 3 DOTC videos, they still add up to much more than the Strokes.
    No. Bad Decisions and At the Door were released after DOTC and had more views. At The Door was only released a week before SBWM and has over 3 million. SBWM has 1.8
    Wrong.  Please read again. I said The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago and didn't come close to even matching DOTC combined video count.  Also, Pearl Jam has 1.25 million YouTube subscribers vs The Strokes which barely has 1 million so Pearl Jam wins again, from a popularity standpoint.  
  • igotid88
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    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    vedpunk said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Strokes are the next big rock band with a new album.  Let's see how they do? Their YouTube videos for their 1st 2 singles got more views than PJ's first 2
    Incorrect.  The combined videos for DOTC has more views (over 9 million) than ALL of the new Strokes videos combined.
    Obviously if you include all 3. But I'm going by the original video when first released. The Strokes video reached a million faster. Both did. SBWM took almost 2 weeks to reach a million. 
    The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago so they've had plenty of time to hit more views.  Even though there are 3 DOTC videos, they still add up to much more than the Strokes.
    No. Bad Decisions and At the Door were released after DOTC and had more views. At The Door was only released a week before SBWM and has over 3 million. SBWM has 1.8
    Wrong.  Please read again. I said The Strokes released two of their three new singles over a month ago and didn't come close to even matching DOTC combined video count.  Also, Pearl Jam has 1.25 million YouTube subscribers vs The Strokes which barely has 1 million so Pearl Jam wins again, from a popularity standpoint.  
    Of course 3 videos are going to be more than 1. All videos were released close to each other. Hard to  say what DOTC's numbers would be if they didn't  have 3 videos. SBWM took awhile to get to a million. Quick Escape got to a million a little faster than SBWM. Both Strokes videos got to a million faster. The Strokes also have 2 official videos with over 130 million views. Pearl Jam just has 1 over 100 million.  Even Flow is close with 97+ million.

    The point of the original post was to see how well they will do their first week on the chart.  Not about  who is a better or more popular band? They're just a big rock band of the last 20 years. So if they sell 100k their first week. It would say a lot about PJ fans not showing up the first week. But maybe they sell less
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