"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
I saw Gigaton shot up to #9 on iTunes album chart after Eddie's River Cross performance on Global Citizen webcast. It's #18 today. Been in top 20 iTunes every day since Saturday. River Cross (Gigaton version) was also around #100 in iTunes Songs chart. Not on there anymore.
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I saw Gigaton shot up to #9 on iTunes album chart after Eddie's River Cross performance on Global Citizen webcast. It's #18 today. Been in top 20 iTunes every day since Saturday. River Cross (Gigaton version) was also around #100 in iTunes Songs chart. Not on there anymore.
And on Amazon the CD has been at #3 most of the time. Fluctuating between 3 and 10. Digital between 10-26. Maybe Mike's appearance with Awolnation on Thursday will help a little. Other than that there's no appearance that I know of. I know someone mentioned that they'll "show up" in the Bulls documentary at the end. But that will be late May. Speaking of that documentary. It helped the Alan Parsons Project "Sirius" go to #1 on iTunes rock
I don't think they care about sales based on the little to no media and promotional activities. Amazing how just a brief 2 minute Eddie performance this weekend catapulted River Cross to the most popular and highest selling song on Gigaton.
I don't think they care about sales based on the little to no media and promotional activities. Amazing how just a brief 2 minute Eddie performance this weekend catapulted River Cross to the most popular and highest selling song on Gigaton.
Only for this week. But Dance, SBWM, and Quick Escape were higher. SBWM was at #1 longer as well. In the rock chart
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I'm guessing Quick Escape was never actively promoted to radio but only a pre album release single. Retrograde is being marketed and pushed to radio. An official video is being produced and will be out soon.
Retrograde??? Are you kidding?
Why not 7:00 or Quick Escape? This makes no sense to me.
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I saw Gigaton shot up to #9 on iTunes album chart after Eddie's River Cross performance on Global Citizen webcast. It's #18 today. Been in top 20 iTunes every day since Saturday. River Cross (Gigaton version) was also around #100 in iTunes Songs chart. Not on there anymore.
And on Amazon the CD has been at #3 most of the time. Fluctuating between 3 and 10. Digital between 10-26. Maybe Mike's appearance with Awolnation on Thursday will help a little. Other than that there's no appearance that I know of. I know someone mentioned that they'll "show up" in the Bulls documentary at the end. But that will be late May. Speaking of that documentary. It helped the Alan Parsons Project "Sirius" go to #1 on iTunes rock
I've been listening to Sirius on a loop for the last two days.
I don't think they care about sales based on the little to no media and promotional activities. Amazing how just a brief 2 minute Eddie performance this weekend catapulted River Cross to the most popular and highest selling song on Gigaton.
Only for this week. But Dance, SBWM, and Quick Escape were higher. SBWM was at #1 longer as well. In the rock chart
Per Apple iTunes, River Cross has sold the most on the album. Not sure about other outlets.
I don't think they care about sales based on the little to no media and promotional activities. Amazing how just a brief 2 minute Eddie performance this weekend catapulted River Cross to the most popular and highest selling song on Gigaton.
Only for this week. But Dance, SBWM, and Quick Escape were higher. SBWM was at #1 longer as well. In the rock chart
Per Apple iTunes, River Cross has sold the most on the album. Not sure about other outlets.
Yes. For this week. But Dance and SBWM have been #1 and I believe Quick Escape as well. And those 3 were #1 on Amazon as well. Overall it has not sold the most or streamed the most.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
Yea but it counts
Counts toward what? The Billboard 200? Sure, but I said I was talking about Top Album Sales. The streaming numbers don't offer any meaningful comparable with any other Pearl Jam studio album because they all charted on the Billboard 200 before streaming was included on that chart. And we have no idea if 10,000 streaming equivalents means that 150,000 people streamed all 12 tracks or if 150,000 people streamed "Dance Of The Clairvoyants" 12 times each. The former would tell us something about album consumption; the latter tells us nothing about album consumption but a lot about the popularity of the individual track. Counting streams of individual tracks toward an album chart renders the whole thing incoherent.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
Yea but it counts
Counts toward what? The Billboard 200? Sure, but I said I was talking about Top Album Sales. The streaming numbers don't offer any meaningful comparable with any other Pearl Jam studio album because they all charted on the Billboard 200 before streaming was included on that chart. And we have no idea if 10,000 streaming equivalents means that 150,000 people streamed all 12 tracks or if 150,000 people streamed "Dance Of The Clairvoyants" 12 times each. The former would tell us something about album consumption; the latter tells us nothing about album consumption but a lot about the popularity of the individual track. Counting streams of individual tracks toward an album chart renders the whole thing incoherent.
I don't disagree. But those numbers will count towards it going gold, platinum, or diamond
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
Yea but it counts
Counts toward what? The Billboard 200? Sure, but I said I was talking about Top Album Sales. The streaming numbers don't offer any meaningful comparable with any other Pearl Jam studio album because they all charted on the Billboard 200 before streaming was included on that chart. And we have no idea if 10,000 streaming equivalents means that 150,000 people streamed all 12 tracks or if 150,000 people streamed "Dance Of The Clairvoyants" 12 times each. The former would tell us something about album consumption; the latter tells us nothing about album consumption but a lot about the popularity of the individual track. Counting streams of individual tracks toward an album chart renders the whole thing incoherent.
I don't disagree. But those numbers will count towards it going gold, platinum, or diamond
Oh, I see. That's true, but it doesn't seem like it has a snowball's chance in hell of getting to gold if its top streaming week is 12,000. It was streamed so little this week that it didn't rank among the Billboard 200 despite being No. 15 in sales.
While Billboard had Gigaton at #66 on the 2nd week Rollingstone chart had it at #121 with 7.3k album units. 4.6k album sales, 1.1k song sales, and 2.5 million song streams
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
Yea but it counts
Counts toward what? The Billboard 200? Sure, but I said I was talking about Top Album Sales. The streaming numbers don't offer any meaningful comparable with any other Pearl Jam studio album because they all charted on the Billboard 200 before streaming was included on that chart. And we have no idea if 10,000 streaming equivalents means that 150,000 people streamed all 12 tracks or if 150,000 people streamed "Dance Of The Clairvoyants" 12 times each. The former would tell us something about album consumption; the latter tells us nothing about album consumption but a lot about the popularity of the individual track. Counting streams of individual tracks toward an album chart renders the whole thing incoherent.
I don't disagree. But those numbers will count towards it going gold, platinum, or diamond
By the way, the other thing to keep in mind about RIAA certifications is that, even if they could somehow get to 500,000, they would have to seek certification from the RIAA. It's not automatic. Given that the band doesn't seem to care, and that it's not free, I'd be surprised if they bothered. In the past, the record company had an incentive to do this and the record company paid for it. They're on their own label now, and the distributor would almost certainly not shell out for this.
"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Plus the streams
I'm only talking about sales here. I put no stock in streaming equivalents.
Yea but it counts
Counts toward what? The Billboard 200? Sure, but I said I was talking about Top Album Sales. The streaming numbers don't offer any meaningful comparable with any other Pearl Jam studio album because they all charted on the Billboard 200 before streaming was included on that chart. And we have no idea if 10,000 streaming equivalents means that 150,000 people streamed all 12 tracks or if 150,000 people streamed "Dance Of The Clairvoyants" 12 times each. The former would tell us something about album consumption; the latter tells us nothing about album consumption but a lot about the popularity of the individual track. Counting streams of individual tracks toward an album chart renders the whole thing incoherent.
I don't disagree. But those numbers will count towards it going gold, platinum, or diamond
By the way, the other thing to keep in mind about RIAA certifications is that, even if they could somehow get to 500,000, they would have to seek certification from the RIAA. It's not automatic. Given that the band doesn't seem to care, and that it's not free, I'd be surprised if they bothered. In the past, the record company had an incentive to do this and the record company paid for it. They're on their own label now, and the distributor would almost certainly not shell out for this.
Yea. I figured that also. But Just Breathe got platinum and they weren't in a label then. But I would think Jeremy should be platinum by now and Alive gold? Heck, Last Kiss should be platinum by now. And does a song have to be an official single to be eligible now? I'm not sure how it works in the streaming age
Seems weird to me that a band that can sell out safeco field 2 nights can’t sell 100k albums when the album is quite good. Does no one own music anymore?
Seems weird to me that a band that can sell out safeco field 2 nights can’t sell 100k albums when the album is quite good. Does no one own music anymore?
Not as much as before. It's all about streaming. And also with Pearl Jam. Some of their fans only want the live stuff.
I’ve listened to the album at least once all the way through everyday since it came out, but this is the first physical PJ album I haven’t purchased yet. Spotify has made it kind of unnecessary to buy an album which is why the sales are lower than expected. The band is compensated for streaming plays but I have no idea how that compares to a record purchase. The album is amazing. It deserves to be heard and I really appreciate that my favorite band still kicks ass this far into their career.
I’ve listened to the album at least once all the way through everyday since it came out, but this is the first physical PJ album I haven’t purchased yet. Spotify has made it kind of unnecessary to buy an album which is why the sales are lower than expected. The band is compensated for streaming plays but I have no idea how that compares to a record purchase. The album is amazing. It deserves to be heard and I really appreciate that my favorite band still kicks ass this far into their career.
Very low compared to buying the album. Do you have a paid subscription or free? If paid you would have to do what you do 1500 more times for it to equal 1 sale.
I’ve listened to the album at least once all the way through everyday since it came out, but this is the first physical PJ album I haven’t purchased yet. Spotify has made it kind of unnecessary to buy an album which is why the sales are lower than expected. The band is compensated for streaming plays but I have no idea how that compares to a record purchase. The album is amazing. It deserves to be heard and I really appreciate that my favorite band still kicks ass this far into their career.
Unnecessary, perhaps, but you get better sound quality and the package, which is something the band put a lot of time into creating and which can enhance the experience of listening to the record. I realize these advantages aren't as valuable to everyone as they are to me.
Seems weird to me that a band that can sell out safeco field 2 nights can’t sell 100k albums when the album is quite good. Does no one own music anymore?
Keep a couple of things in mind. A significant portion of the crowd at a two-night event consists of the same people attending both shows. So 80,000 people over two nights might only be 50,000 unique individuals. Second, of those say 50,000 unique individuals, a very large number of them have very little interest in anything the band has done since 1998; for some people, it's 1994. They haven't bought a Pearl Jam album this century and they're not going to start now.
Finally, while this album was probably never going to sell much more than 100,000 copies its first week-- if that-- it was released into an unprecedented retail environment that had to negatively affect sales.
(And this is without even answering the question of whether the Ten Club reports direct sales to Nielsen Soundscan. It is possible that they do not.)
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"Superblood Wolfmoon" continues to make small but steady gains at rock radio.
Gigaton falls out of the Billboard 200 after two weeks, but remains at No. 15 in Top Album Sales. Harry Styles at No. 14 sold about 4,000. Dua Lipa at No. 16 sold about 3,700. So figure that Pearl Jam sold in the high 3,000s. That would give it a sales trajectory of 55,000-~10,000-~4,000. It will be hard to get to 100,000 at that rate.
Maybe Mike's appearance with Awolnation on Thursday will help a little. Other than that there's no appearance that I know of. I know someone mentioned that they'll "show up" in the Bulls documentary at the end. But that will be late May. Speaking of that documentary. It helped the Alan Parsons Project "Sirius" go to #1 on iTunes rock
Retrograde??? Are you kidding?
Why not 7:00 or Quick Escape? This makes no sense to me.
In fact, it's on right now
hahaha
Let's see if River Cross makes one of the rock charts next week
Rollingstone chart had it at #121 with 7.3k album units. 4.6k album sales, 1.1k song sales, and 2.5 million song streams
And does a song have to be an official single to be eligible now? I'm not sure how it works in the streaming age
Finally, while this album was probably never going to sell much more than 100,000 copies its first week-- if that-- it was released into an unprecedented retail environment that had to negatively affect sales.
(And this is without even answering the question of whether the Ten Club reports direct sales to Nielsen Soundscan. It is possible that they do not.)