So, any defenders? NK still lobbing missiles, Americans dying in Iraq and Afghanistan and the wall still isn’t built. Jared Dear Boy is lost in space and hasn’t brought peace to the Middle East and Ivanka darlink wishes she was cardi b. Anyone seen Melania?
Let’s not forget. Pulled out the Paris Climate Accord, Pulled out of the nuclear treaty with Russia. Started a trade war with China. Started internment camps on the border like what we did to the Japanese people during WW2. Click bates a race war with irresponsible tweets and press conferences. Grabs women by the pussy. Mike Pence. I could go on forever with the catastrophe this idiot has done. It just makes me tried and depressed.
I don't know that Trump supporters even support Donald Trump, the individual, per se. They'll support anything "as long as it ain't a fuckin libtard!" Trump is just the current mascot they cheer for in that position.
I don't know that Trump supporters even support Donald Trump, the individual, per se. They'll support anything "as long as it ain't a fuckin libtard!" Trump is just the current mascot they cheer for in that position.
Don't forget the damn SOCIALISTS As long as it ain't a damn SOCIALIST!!
I don't know that Trump supporters even support Donald Trump, the individual, per se. They'll support anything "as long as it ain't a fuckin libtard!" Trump is just the current mascot they cheer for in that position.
Don't forget the damn SOCIALISTS As long as it ain't a damn SOCIALIST!!
Ahh yes, the dreaded socialist monster under the bed!!
I don't know that Trump supporters even support Donald Trump, the individual, per se. They'll support anything "as long as it ain't a fuckin libtard!" Trump is just the current mascot they cheer for in that position.
Owning libs has become the primary motivation of the right. The more Trump pisses the left off, the more they like it. I grow more convinced every day that they don't actually care what happens as a result of any of this, as long as Red beats Blue. That's why they celebrate the NC GOP passing shit while the Dems are at a 9/11 ceremony.
Even though he didn't coin the phrase, I kinda think of Mitch McConnell as the Father of Owning Libs and stopping Obama from nominating a Supreme Court Justice was the moment when everything changed. It was like the release of "nevermind" but with bad impacts.
Further, I believe a third of the country would be willing to go full dictatorship just to spite another third of the country (with no regard for the middle third).
So what's this say about the degree to which this is about Trump? While they tell us "fuck your feelings" they actually kinda seem to care about Trump's. A sad Trump seems to lead to an angry supporter. I'd argue it's about Trump to an extent because someone like Mitt Romney would be trying to compromise (or at least talking that way) and would come across more reasonably. Trump makes 'em feel like it's their world (it is really); like they don't have to listen to, or respect, anyone they don't like. His sense of victimhood enables them to feel like victims (to political correctness, SOB football players, socialism, or whatever other boogeyman / scapegoat Trump's whining about.)
In short, it's a little of both. Well, really, a lot of both.
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Every Covid19 death will be on him let’s see how this nation handles 100k + dead come November or even if the death toll has stopped by election Tuesday.. this nation has more stupid people than we realize..
Every Covid19 death will be on him let’s see how this nation handles 100k + dead come November or even if the death toll has stopped by election Tuesday.. this nation has more stupid people than we realize..
They're not all on him They are on him and every single one of his....
Every Covid19 death will be on him let’s see how this nation handles 100k + dead come November or even if the death toll has stopped by election Tuesday.. this nation has more stupid people than we realize..
They're not all on him They are on him and every single one of his....
Didn’t first time so no. Rep aren’t permitted to answer these types of questions. They want the dems to think there’s no need to vote, again. The only way to accomplish that is to keep their mouths shut. Clarence “is that a pubic hair on my soda can” Thomas let us know what’s coming.
I agree, Patrick. I kind of doubt he will and as much as I would love to see that, the thought is also a bit frightening. Imagine if that were to happen what his fanatical constituents would do. That's an unsettling thought.
I don't see how this turns out well. Any "best case" scenarios?
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I agree, Patrick. I kind of doubt he will and as much as I would love to see that, the thought is also a bit frightening. Imagine if that were to happen what his fanatical constituents would do. That's an unsettling thought.
I don't see how this turns out well. Any "best case" scenarios?
I read something about how easily people will admit embarrassment, but how hard it is to admit shame. The difference is that with shame, you as an individual are a cause, but with embarrassment, you are a victim. Personally, I think the best case scenario is that a huge swathe of people who have been shamelessly in support of Trump for several years now, will be embarrassed into ceasing their support, while holding Trump responsible for their own actions.
I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
I never understand that. Not arguing but I just don’t get it.
I can’t think of many things Biden has done/or could do. He’s not abusing executive authority and ultimately policy goes through Congress, he just executes that policy. At a minimum we are at least returning to normal. Signature presidential achievements are almost always stuff Congress has to approve anyway. The two most moderate senate democrats have about as much power as Biden
as much as I hated trump, there wasn’t a lot done there at the start of his term either when he also had the house and senate. Less than I would have thought
inflation, gas prices, Ukraine was happening no matter who is president. I think people give too much credit to what a president can actually control. Supreme Court is one thing a president can do (sometimes) and for that reason alone, Biden is doing ok.
I’d give trump a pass on a lot of that out of his control stuff also, to be fair. Unless of course he didn’t sanction Russia, broke up nato and kept gas prices down. Then I’d be mad at the bigger mess that created. Fundamentally that’s the difference though. Trump goes for the quick win, no matter the long term consequences as that won’t affect him anyway. A responsible president makes the hard choices that cause people to be angry now to prevent a larger problem later. I think Trump could have/would have done something concerning Russia and keeping gas prices lower (with foreign policy decisions which a president can do more unilaterally, not domestic policy) but at what cost? Gas prices is the real issue here and presidential approval is tied to that like no other issue.
knowing what I know now, if I could go back to 2020 and vote again, I’d still vote for Biden. The only difference is I would probably try to vote twice, just to make sure
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I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
Ooooph. The bolded sentence means your dog was, inadvertently, Trump.
Republicans fundamentally get it
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
Ooooph. The bolded sentence means your dog was, inadvertently, Trump.
Republicans fundamentally get it
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
Pretty much.
I'm also baffled as to how someone could hate their vote for Biden in 2020. I don't like the guy either, but it was and still remains in hindsight, a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
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I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
Ooooph. The bolded sentence means your dog was, inadvertently, Trump.
Republicans fundamentally get it
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
Pretty much.
I'm also baffled as to how someone could hate their vote for Biden in 2020. I don't like the guy either, but it was and still remains in hindsight, a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
Spot on. Both of you.
Fucking emails. People were up in arms over fucking emails six years ago.
I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
Ooooph. The bolded sentence means your dog was, inadvertently, Trump.
Republicans fundamentally get it
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
Pretty much.
I'm also baffled as to how someone could hate their vote for Biden in 2020. I don't like the guy either, but it was and still remains in hindsight, a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
I don’t get as angry as many people do with sanders/Green Party voters. Their vote, their choice. I 100 percent support it.
what makes me mad is many take zero responsibility for the outcome of that vote. Even today. many deflect blame on Hillary for being a bad candidate so it wasn’t on them, it was her fault. Well, trump was a bad candidate too for a lot of conservatives.
We get the candidates we get after a primary. Trying to rehash a primary in a general never ends well. I don’t think the lesson has been learned, even now
I dont have a dog on the fight. I voted for Sanders in 2016. Voted for Biden in 2020 and now hate that vote,but what other choice did I have?
Ooooph. The bolded sentence means your dog was, inadvertently, Trump.
Republicans fundamentally get it
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
Pretty much.
I'm also baffled as to how someone could hate their vote for Biden in 2020. I don't like the guy either, but it was and still remains in hindsight, a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
I don’t get as angry as many people do with sanders/Green Party voters. Their vote, their choice. I 100 percent support it.
what makes me mad is many take zero responsibility for the outcome of that vote. Even today. many deflect blame on Hillary for being a bad candidate so it wasn’t on them, it was her fault. Well, trump was a bad candidate too for a lot of conservatives.
We get the candidates we get after a primary. Trying to rehash a primary in a general never ends well. I don’t think the lesson has been learned, even now
You nailed it when you said republicans fundamentally get it.
They know they have to suck it up & vote for a candidate they don't like in order to get what they want.
Meanwhile democrats & independents sit around waiting for a non-existent perfect candidate to come along & 'earn their vote'.
Not to get too controversial but black voters have been particularly loyal. They get nothing for it. The democrats have historically not done as much as they should for a major source of votes. They should be mad at their party. They vote for democrats anyway and overwhelmingly as the alternative is way worse. They get it.
Then you’ve got sanders voters who want free college for everyone and vote for him because of that. I can’t help but to see first world problems driving certain groups of democrats to defect. If they had real problems like some other groups they might get it too
Not to get too controversial but black voters have been particularly loyal. They get nothing for it. The democrats have historically not done as much as they should for a major source of votes. They should be mad at their party. They vote for democrats anyway and overwhelmingly as the alternative is way worse. They get it.
Then you’ve got sanders voters who want free college for everyone and vote for him because of that. I can’t help but to see first world problems driving certain groups of democrats to defect. If they had real problems like some other groups they might get it too
Black voters have only been able to vote for 57 years now. I can't help but think they still realize how important that right is.... The GOP knows how important voting is, as evidenced by gerrymandering & all their other election related fuckery.
Not to get too controversial but black voters have been particularly loyal. They get nothing for it. The democrats have historically not done as much as they should for a major source of votes. They should be mad at their party. They vote for democrats anyway and overwhelmingly as the alternative is way worse. They get it.
Then you’ve got sanders voters who want free college for everyone and vote for him because of that. I can’t help but to see first world problems driving certain groups of democrats to defect. If they had real problems like some other groups they might get it too
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As long as it ain't a damn SOCIALIST!!
Even though he didn't coin the phrase, I kinda think of Mitch McConnell as the Father of Owning Libs and stopping Obama from nominating a Supreme Court Justice was the moment when everything changed. It was like the release of "nevermind" but with bad impacts.
Further, I believe a third of the country would be willing to go full dictatorship just to spite another third of the country (with no regard for the middle third).
So what's this say about the degree to which this is about Trump? While they tell us "fuck your feelings" they actually kinda seem to care about Trump's. A sad Trump seems to lead to an angry supporter. I'd argue it's about Trump to an extent because someone like Mitt Romney would be trying to compromise (or at least talking that way) and would come across more reasonably. Trump makes 'em feel like it's their world (it is really); like they don't have to listen to, or respect, anyone they don't like. His sense of victimhood enables them to feel like victims (to political correctness, SOB football players, socialism, or whatever other boogeyman / scapegoat Trump's whining about.)
In short, it's a little of both. Well, really, a lot of both.
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This letter is one of the most sad representations one could share about the mental abilities of Trump.
https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-schumer-impeachment-4455884d-14c1-4a7d-9886-de158667bc57.html
this nation has more stupid people than we realize..
They are on him and every single one of his....
Advisors
Believers
Followers
Supporters
Voters
They are all complicit in this
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A bit like this.
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as much as I hated trump, there wasn’t a lot done there at the start of his term either when he also had the house and senate. Less than I would have thought
inflation, gas prices, Ukraine was happening no matter who is president. I think people give too much credit to what a president can actually control. Supreme Court is one thing a president can do (sometimes) and for that reason alone, Biden is doing ok.
knowing what I know now, if I could go back to 2020 and vote again, I’d still vote for Biden. The only difference is I would probably try to vote twice, just to make sure
as many republicans I know, only a handful were pro trump in 2016. Every single one voted for him though
being anti Hillary was all that mattered . Being anti trump wasn’t enough for liberals. Liberals didn’t prioritise the Supreme Court like conservatives did
I'm also baffled as to how someone could hate their vote for Biden in 2020. I don't like the guy either, but it was and still remains in hindsight, a no brainer when compared to the alternative.
Fucking emails. People were up in arms over fucking emails six years ago.
what makes me mad is many take zero responsibility for the outcome of that vote. Even today. many deflect blame on Hillary for being a bad candidate so it wasn’t on them, it was her fault. Well, trump was a bad candidate too for a lot of conservatives.
You nailed it when you said republicans fundamentally get it.
They know they have to suck it up & vote for a candidate they don't like in order to get what they want.
Meanwhile democrats & independents sit around waiting for a non-existent perfect candidate to come along & 'earn their vote'.