Who Ever Said

Veddernarian · March 2020

End of Who ever said reminds me of the end of Habit, but shorter. Hearing this song after reading so many reviews, the song was completely different than what I expected. I hear, slightly, the riff from Sad in the opening. This one is a Binaural song to me, but mixed and sounding well. That's the difference.

As for Pendulum - Agree, great song, great opener and unfortunately, my only LB-tour show was about the only show they didn't open with it. I'm a big fab of Alright and Retrograde for the same reasons I'm a fan of Pendulum.

I sort of see what he sees in Quick Escape. Mike's solo. In the first part, it's like if someone said to Mike, play your tricks, and he did them all at once. Then, after that burst of tricks and Jeff weighs in, it totally changes and is very Sabbath-like and greatness. I don't dislike that solo but I thought solos in songs like Severed Hand were more thought out.

on2legs · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

So listened and I think it sounds pretty good.

So is the guitar better on your tracks or Quick Escape? Be honest.

Eilian · March 2020

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

So listened and I think it sounds pretty good.

So is the guitar better on your tracks or Quick Escape? Be honest.

Thank you very much.

Forget whether the guitars serve the song better on my tracks than the end solo on Quick Escape does, but compare it to other McCready efforts. He can produce more thoughtful, more melodic and interesting solos than this, and Quick Escape in particular deserves better.

Gern Blansten · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

on2legs · March 2020

These discussions that come up remind me a lot of a political discussion. No one is ever going to change anyone’s mind.

However I personally have an issue with someone critiquing the quality of someone’s guitar playing or the level of effort they put into something. I think it’s fine to say you’re not happy with Mike’s style or you don’t like the album because it didn’t click with you. But to criticize the quality or effort comes off as pretty pompous and implies that you’re personally capable of much better. My two cents.

Eilian · March 2020

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Eilian · March 2020

on2legs said:

These discussions that come up remind me a lot of a political discussion. No one is ever going to change anyone’s mind.

However I personally have an issue with someone critiquing the quality of someone’s guitar playing or the level of effort they put into something. I think it’s fine to say you’re not happy with Mike’s style or you don’t like the album because it didn’t click with you. But to criticize the quality or effort comes off as pretty pompous and implies that you’re personally capable of much better. My two cents.

No no. Not listening and misrepresenting someone's point comes off as pretty pompous. Forget whether I can produce better, more thoughtful and melodic solos (Must be the third time I've typed that) MCCREADY can and has produced better and Quick Escape is a cool tune which deserves something which doesn't sound like a one-take improv.

igotid88 · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

These discussions that come up remind me a lot of a political discussion. No one is ever going to change anyone’s mind.

However I personally have an issue with someone critiquing the quality of someone’s guitar playing or the level of effort they put into something. I think it’s fine to say you’re not happy with Mike’s style or you don’t like the album because it didn’t click with you. But to criticize the quality or effort comes off as pretty pompous and implies that you’re personally capable of much better. My two cents.

No no. Not listening and misrepresenting someone's point comes off as pretty pompous. Forget whether I can produce better, more thoughtful and melodic solos (Must be the third time I've typed that) MCCREADY can and has produced better and Quick Escape is a cool tune which deserves something which doesn't sound like a one-take improv.

I disagree. Great solo

on2legs · March 2020

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

Eilian · March 2020

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

Gern Blansten · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

And we want your band to be the best it can be. Please go practice.

vedpunk · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short. It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

on2legs · March 2020

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

They’re almost 30 years into this thing. To suggest they fell “short” with this album is ridiculous. For a band to stick together this long and put out an album of this quality at this stage of their career is amazing.

Eilian · March 2020

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short. It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

Eilian · March 2020

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

And we want your band to be the best it can be. Please go practice.

No need for the not-so thinly veiled insults, Gern.

spankyMP · March 2020

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

It’s not your opinion, it’s your delivery. Self awareness helps.

vedpunk · March 2020

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short. It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

You assume they weren’t the best they can be which is really self absorbed, like you are some expert on the subject matter.

Eilian · March 2020

spankyMP said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

It’s not your opinion, it’s your delivery. Self awareness helps.

Ironic you should lecture me about awareness - He straight up said I have the "wrong" opinion.

I've been really positive about the tune which I think doesn't get the solo it deserves. I've also, ad nauseam, praised McCready for being able to produce superb solo contributions to records - I even said I thought his SBWM solo fit perfectly.

Eilian · March 2020

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

https://soundcloud.com/vehicle-music/turner

Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short. It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

You assume they weren’t the best they can be which is really self absorbed, like you are some expert on the subject matter.

I'm pretty well acquainted with their catalogue, yeah. They can be better.

Ledbetterman10 · March 2020

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

vedpunk said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Eilian said:

on2legs said:

Eilian said:

Gern Blansten said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Gern Blansten said:

A non-guitarist commenting on a solo is hilarious...

Are you guitarist enough to e.g. comment on professional artists solos or riffs?

Yes! I've been playing for 35 years. Proud owner of a new Fender strat, a Gibson LP and my first guitar....a fucking Westone Corsair!

Do my two Martins and Les Paul qualify my opinion at all?

You’re definitely qualified. Throw us up some links to your recordings so we can hear a proper non-noodling guitar solo.

Think you missed the point of the question - it was rhetorical, because whether I play or not is entirely besides the point.

Feel free to rip my band efforts apart though, if you think it'll make McCready's QE noodling sound more thoughtful...

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Disagree...being able to play definitely provides insight that could be used to shape an opinion.

That your opinion just happens to be wrong is a separate argument.

I'm sorry I have the wrong opinion.

I'm also sorry that Quick Escape (a really cool jam) never got the climax it deserved.

Not the wrong opinion, but clearly a minority opinion. Most people posting have loved it and said it’s their favorite on the album. You can’t please all the people all the time. I think the band knows that and they put out a record that most of us are ecstatic over. Sure you can nit pick it but you’re really letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. So much to love about these songs. 😀

My having a minority opinion seems to be the norm, generally speaking.

On here however, anything even bordering on critical, no-matter how specific or well intentioned, is "wrong" (See above)

I just want them to be the best they can be (which is the greatest band in the world) and when they fall short through what seem like intentionally bad artistic choices it bums me out.

It’s only your opinion that they fell short. It is my opinion that they knocked it out of the park and this is the best produced album in decades.

What a fatuous thing to say. Of course it's my opinion. I wouldn't be expressing yours, would I?

Chuffed you think otherwise.

You assume they weren’t the best they can be which is really self absorbed, like you are some expert on the subject matter.

I'm pretty well acquainted with their catalogue, yeah. They can be better.

Well since you’re so acquainted with their catalog, you should know that they’re over 20 years past their peak of creativity and you should lower your expectations. This is a great record for a band 30 years in. No, they can’t be better.

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