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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,729
    brianlux said:
    Listen to Awwnold!


    PUT THE COOKIE DOWN. i fucking love that man. 
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I didn’t think he had a girly dog (said ala Arnold) :lol:
  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    So the Trump administration last year was warned that the US wasn't ready for a pandemic. Guess they didnt need the warning. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,583
    brianlux said:
    Listen to Awwnold!


    He couldn't be more humble than that, lol?!?
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    jeffbr said:
    From WaPo
    Younger adults are large percentage of coronavirus hospitalizations in United States, according to new CDC data
    A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention analysis of U.S. cases from Feb. 12 to March 16 released Wednesday shows 38 percent of those sick enough to be hospitalized were younger than 55.

    Thanks Jefferson! I was looking for this study yesterday after Trump referred to it. I'm glad to have an update on the stats!
    Here is the number breakdown from that chart:

    As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged ≥85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). Only 5% of cases occurred in persons aged 0–19 years.

    Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged ≥85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged ≤19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%–3% among persons aged ≤9 years, to ≥31% among adults aged ≥85 years. (Table).

    Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults ≥85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years (Figure 2). No ICU admissions were reported among persons aged ≤19 years. Percentages of ICU admissions were lowest among adults aged 20–44 years (2%–4%) and highest among adults aged 75–84 years (11%–31%) (Table).

    Among 44 cases with known outcome, 15 (34%) deaths were reported among adults aged ≥85 years, 20 (46%) among adults aged 65–84 years, and nine (20%) among adults aged 20–64 years. Case-fatality percentages increased with increasing age, from no deaths reported among persons aged ≤19 years to highest percentages (10%–27%) among adults aged ≥85 years (Table) (Figure 2).

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Listen to Awwnold!


    He couldn't be more humble than that, lol?!?

    Yeah his message was spot on but I laughed about his going for a bike ride, getting a work out in, and then jumping in the hot tube w/a cigar.  Sorta the wrong tone, to me, but I fully support the message and am glad for all to be sharing shit like this. 
    Gotta love the Ahnold.
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  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    edited March 2020
    nevermind 
    Post edited by JPPJ84 on
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,313
    brianlux said:
    Listen to Awwnold!


    Legend 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,583
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    Listen to Awwnold!


    Legend 
    Only if he has the P tape!

    Whoops, wrong Arnold...
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,363
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO6FW1aJkTw&t

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,668
    More Arnold.  I love this guy!


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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    You'd think he'd properly house-train his in-home livestock like the rest of us peons.
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    BUT I THOUGHT CHINA WAS HIDING INFO...(not that I totally trust China's leaders but this just flies in the face of what he says now)

    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    F Me In The Brain said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Did the GOP just sign a death warrant for 6 million?

    ...

    Republican Sen. Ron Johnson cast doubt on the severity of federally issued guidance aimed at staunching the spread of the novel coronavirus, urging people to consider the economic drawbacks of the recommendations

    "I'm not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be, and how it's obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population," Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Tuesday. "But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this."

    But we don't shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It's a risk we accept so we can move about," 

    ...

    It's just a bad version of the flu. My garbage man used to be a doctor and told me so while picking up my trash.


    "between 1 and 3.4 percent" of 320 million is not measured in thousands, a$$hole GOP Senator. Try many millions. Go back to sniffing Trump's arse.
    The math is off but the premise isn’t crazy.  Sure it might be too early to make this decision, but depending on how long it goes on it is a decision that might have to be made. I mean how long can we realistically let the world be at a complete standstill? 12 months, 18, 2 years?  The best projections for a working vaccine suggest 18 months....what are we supposed to do until then? Especially those of us who have had their livelihoods put at major risk.

    Look at what China did, look at what Italy is doing, learn from it.  If we do not retard the spread of this the problem is going to be worse than if we do.  Take a federal approach and get serious about keeping people away from each other.  Focus all energies on the support system/working against the disease instead of trying to string things along.  Stop any payments/collections.  After the 30 days we have a better plan, we re-open stuff and find a way.  Right now, it seems like we are letting everyone do what works best for them.
    How in the heck is that going to get us the result we need?

    I don't know the right answers....like I shared above, the take I watched yesterday on a national lockdown to protect the people & the economy for a short while seems like a better response than what we are doing now.

    What scares me right now is read up on the lengths China went to just to get where they are now in 4 months.  They were much more proactive and extreme. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    cdthomas1981 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Did the GOP just sign a death warrant for 6 million?

    ...

    Republican Sen. Ron Johnson cast doubt on the severity of federally issued guidance aimed at staunching the spread of the novel coronavirus, urging people to consider the economic drawbacks of the recommendations

    "I'm not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be, and how it's obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population," Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Tuesday. "But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this."

    But we don't shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It's a risk we accept so we can move about," 

    ...

    It's just a bad version of the flu. My garbage man used to be a doctor and told me so while picking up my trash.


    "between 1 and 3.4 percent" of 320 million is not measured in thousands, a$$hole GOP Senator. Try many millions. Go back to sniffing Trump's arse.
    The math is off but the premise isn’t crazy.  Sure it might be too early to make this decision, but depending on how long it goes on it is a decision that might have to be made. I mean how long can we realistically let the world be at a complete standstill? 12 months, 18, 2 years?  The best projections for a working vaccine suggest 18 months....what are we supposed to do until then? Especially those of us who have had their livelihoods put at major risk.

    Look at what China did, look at what Italy is doing, learn from it.  If we do not retard the spread of this the problem is going to be worse than if we do.  Take a federal approach and get serious about keeping people away from each other.  Focus all energies on the support system/working against the disease instead of trying to string things along.  Stop any payments/collections.  After the 30 days we have a better plan, we re-open stuff and find a way.  Right now, it seems like we are letting everyone do what works best for them.
    How in the heck is that going to get us the result we need?

    I don't know the right answers....like I shared above, the take I watched yesterday on a national lockdown to protect the people & the economy for a short while seems like a better response than what we are doing now.

    What scares me right now is read up on the lengths China went to just to get where they are now in 4 months.  They were much more proactive and extreme. 

    Right and Italy already passed them in deaths. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,137
    F Me In The Brain said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Did the GOP just sign a death warrant for 6 million?

    ...

    Republican Sen. Ron Johnson cast doubt on the severity of federally issued guidance aimed at staunching the spread of the novel coronavirus, urging people to consider the economic drawbacks of the recommendations

    "I'm not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be, and how it's obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population," Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Tuesday. "But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this."

    But we don't shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It's a risk we accept so we can move about," 

    ...

    It's just a bad version of the flu. My garbage man used to be a doctor and told me so while picking up my trash.


    "between 1 and 3.4 percent" of 320 million is not measured in thousands, a$$hole GOP Senator. Try many millions. Go back to sniffing Trump's arse.
    The math is off but the premise isn’t crazy.  Sure it might be too early to make this decision, but depending on how long it goes on it is a decision that might have to be made. I mean how long can we realistically let the world be at a complete standstill? 12 months, 18, 2 years?  The best projections for a working vaccine suggest 18 months....what are we supposed to do until then? Especially those of us who have had their livelihoods put at major risk.

    Look at what China did, look at what Italy is doing, learn from it.  If we do not retard the spread of this the problem is going to be worse than if we do.  Take a federal approach and get serious about keeping people away from each other.  Focus all energies on the support system/working against the disease instead of trying to string things along.  Stop any payments/collections.  After the 30 days we have a better plan, we re-open stuff and find a way.  Right now, it seems like we are letting everyone do what works best for them.
    How in the heck is that going to get us the result we need?

    I don't know the right answers....like I shared above, the take I watched yesterday on a national lockdown to protect the people & the economy for a short while seems like a better response than what we are doing now.

    What scares me right now is read up on the lengths China went to just to get where they are now in 4 months.  They were much more proactive and extreme. 

    Right and Italy already passed them in deaths. 
    If things are to go on China style lockdown in western countries to contain the virus, there needs to be a strong plan in place. What is being floated around now is not enough, you expect people to just sit in side complacently, you better make sure that their bills are paid or forgiven and food and services are provided.  Not to mention you have to make sure that everything that is given up during the crisis can be taken back, freedom of assembly etc.
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited March 2020
    static111 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    cdthomas1981 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Did the GOP just sign a death warrant for 6 million?

    ...

    Republican Sen. Ron Johnson cast doubt on the severity of federally issued guidance aimed at staunching the spread of the novel coronavirus, urging people to consider the economic drawbacks of the recommendations

    "I'm not denying what a nasty disease COVID-19 can be, and how it's obviously devastating to somewhere between 1 and 3.4 percent of the population," Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Tuesday. "But that means 97 to 99 percent will get through this and develop immunities and will be able to move beyond this."

    But we don't shut down our economy because tens of thousands of people die on the highways. It's a risk we accept so we can move about," 

    ...

    It's just a bad version of the flu. My garbage man used to be a doctor and told me so while picking up my trash.


    "between 1 and 3.4 percent" of 320 million is not measured in thousands, a$$hole GOP Senator. Try many millions. Go back to sniffing Trump's arse.
    The math is off but the premise isn’t crazy.  Sure it might be too early to make this decision, but depending on how long it goes on it is a decision that might have to be made. I mean how long can we realistically let the world be at a complete standstill? 12 months, 18, 2 years?  The best projections for a working vaccine suggest 18 months....what are we supposed to do until then? Especially those of us who have had their livelihoods put at major risk.

    Look at what China did, look at what Italy is doing, learn from it.  If we do not retard the spread of this the problem is going to be worse than if we do.  Take a federal approach and get serious about keeping people away from each other.  Focus all energies on the support system/working against the disease instead of trying to string things along.  Stop any payments/collections.  After the 30 days we have a better plan, we re-open stuff and find a way.  Right now, it seems like we are letting everyone do what works best for them.
    How in the heck is that going to get us the result we need?

    I don't know the right answers....like I shared above, the take I watched yesterday on a national lockdown to protect the people & the economy for a short while seems like a better response than what we are doing now.

    What scares me right now is read up on the lengths China went to just to get where they are now in 4 months.  They were much more proactive and extreme. 

    Right and Italy already passed them in deaths. 
    If things are to go on China style lockdown in western countries to contain the virus, there needs to be a strong plan in place. What is being floated around now is not enough, you expect people to just sit in side complacently, you better make sure that their bills are paid or forgiven and food and services are provided.  Not to mention you have to make sure that everything that is given up during the crisis can be taken back, freedom of assembly etc.
    China was literally segregating hospitals.  Either walling off parts of certain hospitals, calling them the "Dirty Wing" and "Clean Wing," or the entire hospital was completely dedicated to COVID-19.

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    Was just on a large CDC Private Sector Partner group call with the Director, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, CDC

    She had nothing really new to share beyond what we can read on their site.  She sounded in favor of a larger lockdown but would not commit to anything being taken action on federally, stating that it is being left to local governing bodies to make their own determinations.
    She did stress that the social distancing could and would work to slow this down, but it would only be effective if every community took it seriously.
    (Which we know will not happen w/o enforcement.)

    There were about 1,000 questions submitted -- some of them really interesting (things I had not thought/heard about) and some that were so totally fucking ignorant given the updates the CDC provides.



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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited March 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Was just on a large CDC Private Sector Partner group call with the Director, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, CDC

    She had nothing really new to share beyond what we can read on their site.  She sounded in favor of a larger lockdown but would not commit to anything being taken action on federally, stating that it is being left to local governing bodies to make their own determinations.
    She did stress that the social distancing could and would work to slow this down, but it would only be effective if every community took it seriously.
    (Which we know will not happen w/o enforcement.)

    There were about 1,000 questions submitted -- some of them really interesting (things I had not thought/heard about) and some that were so totally fucking ignorant given the updates the CDC provides.



    I heard this morning that 7 states (including my home state of Missouri) have yet to ask their restaurants and bars to close, along with suggesting gatherings be limited to 10 or below.

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