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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    I think he meant MERS and not AIDS.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200228142018.htm
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/06/coronavirus-like-combination-sars-aids-doctors-say-12359066/
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    I think he meant MERS and not AIDS.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200228142018.htm
    nope. see above
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/06/coronavirus-like-combination-sars-aids-doctors-say-12359066/
    I would say that’s pretty misleading. They are basing those conclusions on a very small sample of those who died, who by definition had a more severe form of disease. There are many thousands of people who have recovered already so any study on whether there is long-standing lung damage needs to occur with them. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/06/coronavirus-like-combination-sars-aids-doctors-say-12359066/
    I would say that’s pretty misleading. They are basing those conclusions on a very small sample of those who died, who by definition had a more severe form of disease. There are many thousands of people who have recovered already so any study on whether there is long-standing lung damage needs to occur with them. 
    the guy who made this statement/comparison is the director of the intensive care unit after speaking with the forensic specialist. 

    yes, the article does mention that most people infected now have a milder form of the virus. But there is still so much to learn, I wouldn't call it "misleading". he is stating a fact of the autopsies they have performed. 

    the headline is a tad alarmist, yes, but the article itself explains everything quite clearly. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/06/coronavirus-like-combination-sars-aids-doctors-say-12359066/
    I would say that’s pretty misleading. They are basing those conclusions on a very small sample of those who died, who by definition had a more severe form of disease. There are many thousands of people who have recovered already so any study on whether there is long-standing lung damage needs to occur with them. 
    the guy who made this statement/comparison is the director of the intensive care unit after speaking with the forensic specialist. 

    yes, the article does mention that most people infected now have a milder form of the virus. But there is still so much to learn, I wouldn't call it "misleading". he is stating a fact of the autopsies they have performed. 

    the headline is a tad alarmist, yes, but the article itself explains everything quite clearly. 
    It's very misleading. I don't care if he's the director of intensive care, it's irresponsible to make comments about long term prognosis of a disease where the vast majority of people recover based solely on autopsy findings. 

    I read the article and the paper they mention is based on autopsy findings from a single patient. There is no mention in the article if this patient had any pre-existing lung condition or other health issues. If you have even a basic understanding of how medicine, and biological sicences, work then it's clear that these comments are the medical version of clickbait and just feed the hysteria. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    I think he meant MERS and not AIDS.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200228142018.htm
    nope. see   TD 
    Any information coming out of China, I’m taking with a grain of salt given their pleased with the disinformation campaign on social media and besides the article’s one alarming sentence or bi-line regarding the AIDS connection, there’s no further information or follow up to the claim.

     Isn’t The Metro the free rag they hand out in public transportation stations full of alarming headlines and very brief articles for people with short attention spans? Consider the source(s).
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Debunked. Read the full link below for why its been determined false. Explains it well.

    https://www.aap.com.au/the-2019-coronavirus-is-not-a-man-made-combination-of-hiv-and-sars-viruses/
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  • oftenreading
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    read yesterday that autopsies on those that have died from it show the virus is a combo of SARS and AIDS, in that it attacks the respiratory system and the immune system, and even those that recover will/may face life lasting effects.
    Jesus Christ. Where'd ya read that?
    https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/06/coronavirus-like-combination-sars-aids-doctors-say-12359066/
    I would say that’s pretty misleading. They are basing those conclusions on a very small sample of those who died, who by definition had a more severe form of disease. There are many thousands of people who have recovered already so any study on whether there is long-standing lung damage needs to occur with them. 
    the guy who made this statement/comparison is the director of the intensive care unit after speaking with the forensic specialist. 

    yes, the article does mention that most people infected now have a milder form of the virus. But there is still so much to learn, I wouldn't call it "misleading". he is stating a fact of the autopsies they have performed. 

    the headline is a tad alarmist, yes, but the article itself explains everything quite clearly. 
    The fact that you have been mislead suggests the article is misleading. No, the virus is not a combination of SARS and AIDS biologically, to start with. 
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    The virus is definitely not funny though.


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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    Kat said:
    The virus is definitely not funny though.


    I saw this the other night and is mildly amusing.  what's interesting though is since seeing this video i've come to realize how often I touch my face in the course of an hour or day.  it's just natural i think so hard to stop. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    pjhawks said:
    Kat said:
    The virus is definitely not funny though.


    I saw this the other night and is mildly amusing.  what's interesting though is since seeing this video i've come to realize how often I touch my face in the course of an hour or day.  it's just natural i think so hard to stop. 

    Yes, a very difficult tendency to stop!  The average person touches his or her face anywhere from a couple hundred to two thousand times a day. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    https://www.ny.gov/

    our Gov is speaking now.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    Governor Wolf of Pennsylvania has reported that two “presumed positive” cases of coronavirus have turned up in Pennsylvania, one in Delaware County (where I used to live) and one in Wayne County (where I currently work), and the two individuals have been quarantined in their homes.

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    So Purell and any ingredients to make a hand sanitizer are now sold out.

    Bleach in my area?  Sold out.

    Dust masks?  Gone.

    My employees asked for dust masks the other day because we ran out.  Went online only to find out that every outlet has them SOLD OUT...

    People.  Stop buying the friggin dust masks.  Workers need them to stay safe. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    So Purell and any ingredients to make a hand sanitizer are now sold out.

    Bleach in my area?  Sold out.

    Dust masks?  Gone.

    My employees asked for dust masks the other day because we ran out.  Went online only to find out that every outlet has them SOLD OUT...

    People.  Stop buying the friggin dust masks.  Workers need them to stay safe. 
    Right on.  The masks do little or nothing to keep someone from getting the virus and are need by health care workers.  People buying up the masks are shooting themselves in the foot.  

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,362
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    So Purell and any ingredients to make a hand sanitizer are now sold out.

    Bleach in my area?  Sold out.

    Dust masks?  Gone.

    My employees asked for dust masks the other day because we ran out.  Went online only to find out that every outlet has them SOLD OUT...

    People.  Stop buying the friggin dust masks.  Workers need them to stay safe. 
    Right on.  The masks do little or nothing to keep someone from getting the virus and are need by health care workers.  People buying up the masks are shooting themselves in the foot.  

    I need the damn things for my construction crew.  
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