The Democratic Presidential Debates

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    edited February 2020
    lindamarie73 said:
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    Sorry, stating the truth is often painful... do a simple google search to learn about all the wonderful things this man has done.  It sure must be nice to be a rock star.  Anyone of us would have done 5-10 years for Aggravated DUI....I wonder if Phil Collins paid for “the accident” like he helped Crosby jump the line to get a fresh liver in 94...
    My Man Crosby didn't vote for Trump though at least.
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    The team up against Bloomberg. Haha. What a smackdown. And Liz leading the charge. 


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    edited February 2020
    Pete and Amy do not like each other. Vicious attacks about not knowing the name of the mexican president (closest country/biggest tradeparty, but is just a shoulder shrug for Amy. But not for Pete)


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    edited February 2020
    BERNIE: JOE SAID IT RIGHT. THIS IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS CHUCK?


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    edited February 2020
    Bernies "thank you for making my point" laugh when Pete says "The number one place to live out the American Dream right now is Denmark"
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    So fucking good that Bernie told Pete straight about him deliberately misrepresenting his health care plan. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    edited February 2020
    DEBATE RANKING

    1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
    2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly. 
    3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
    4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
    5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
    6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    BERNIE: JOE SAID IT RIGHT. THIS IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS CHUCK?



    Yes. Bernie guarantees trump four more years.
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    edited February 2020
    Lerxst1992 said:
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    Yes. Bernie guarantees trump four more years.
    Nope. But Bloomberg would.
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    edited February 2020
    cincybearcat said:
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    New Hampshire moron buys into Bernies Fake news about fake news. 

    Quitcha bitching Bernie and Bros.



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    Lerxst1992 said:
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    Yes. Bernie guarantees trump four more years.
    That would be correct.  I loved when Pete called him out for not being a democrat.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    As someone who doesn't subscribe to cable, this site and several other online sources make up the vast majority of exposure I see to any candidate. From where I stand, all I see is that there's some Swedish dude who posts Bernie Sanders trailers usually several times in a row, typically daily. I couldn't say the same for any other candidate. In many ways, I find that even less believable than mainstream media when someone messages so consistently and refuses to play one's own devil's advocate. This is the danger of giving megaphones to everyone, while everyone is still only consuming bite-sized and un-nuanced news (going on the assumption that modern society has a general aversion to reading, spending more time than we have to, and an epidemic of sensory overload, and that this would extend even to the holy Bernie Sanders supporters).

    I'm not fearful, nor hysterical, and feel that any remaining politician on the Democratic side can beat Trump. The reason Sanders certainly wouldn't have my vote in the primaries, is that my goal isn't to see a progressive president get nothing done - it's to have someone poised to institute progressive changes, whether big or small, in an effort to leave something better than it started, and to leave progress more attainable after office than before. 

    One thing I want to mention about the Bernie Bros concept and this supposed 'unwavering but aggressive cohort', is that we should all remember there is still most definitely Russian intervention abound, and Russia's go-to move is to confuse Americans by advocating on all sides. Whether Bernie Bros or Pete Pals, we should actually be going on a default assumption that the discourse is being invisibly driven by oppositional forces regardless of who we're committed to, and that some of the people we think we're arguing, are frankly paid to be there and start and participate in those arguments. Are there ideologues who won't waver in supporting Sanders' vision? I'd expect so, just as I'd expect from any other candidate - the difference is, the 'stickiness' of the ideology of the left seems to be stronger than the stickiness of the of the centrists - I'd guess that's largely because center isn't an ideology, it's a balancing and necessary compromising of two sides of a spectrum. 
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    benjs said:
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    As someone who doesn't subscribe to cable, this site and several other online sources make up the vast majority of exposure I see to any candidate. From where I stand, all I see is that there's some Swedish dude who posts Bernie Sanders trailers usually several times in a row, typically daily. I couldn't say the same for any other candidate. In many ways, I find that even less believable than mainstream media when someone messages so consistently and refuses to play one's own devil's advocate. This is the danger of giving megaphones to everyone, while everyone is still only consuming bite-sized and un-nuanced news (going on the assumption that modern society has a general aversion to reading, spending more time than we have to, and an epidemic of sensory overload, and that this would extend even to the holy Bernie Sanders supporters).

    I'm not fearful, nor hysterical, and feel that any remaining politician on the Democratic side can beat Trump. The reason Sanders certainly wouldn't have my vote in the primaries, is that my goal isn't to see a progressive president get nothing done - it's to have someone poised to institute progressive changes, whether big or small, in an effort to leave something better than it started, and to leave progress more attainable after office than before. 

    One thing I want to mention about the Bernie Bros concept and this supposed 'unwavering but aggressive cohort', is that we should all remember there is still most definitely Russian intervention abound, and Russia's go-to move is to confuse Americans by advocating on all sides. Whether Bernie Bros or Pete Pals, we should actually be going on a default assumption that the discourse is being invisibly driven by oppositional forces regardless of who we're committed to, and that some of the people we think we're arguing, are frankly paid to be there and start and participate in those arguments. Are there ideologues who won't waver in supporting Sanders' vision? I'd expect so, just as I'd expect from any other candidate - the difference is, the 'stickiness' of the ideology of the left seems to be stronger than the stickiness of the of the centrists - I'd guess that's largely because center isn't an ideology, it's a balancing and necessary compromising of two sides of a spectrum. 
    It is an ideology--one invested in maintaining the status quo. That's what "moderates" or "centrists" have done for centuries. I'll leave it to you to decide how many times (historically) they were on the right side of things....
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    That would be correct.  I loved when Pete called him out for not being a democrat.  
    I like that people here are all "Sanders guarantees Trump four more years............because I refuse to vote for Sanders!" 
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Nope. But Bloomberg would.
    Would I rather have four more years of Trump or eight years of Bloomberg (or, alternately, 4 years of Bloomberg and four years of whatever POS beats him in 2024)? 
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    lindamarie73 said:
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    I sure am willing to admit my mistakes, but don’t know what mistake I made by calling out a hypocrite and in my opinion a total POS....perhaps having a parent who did not drink or do drugs die of liver disease at a early age has something to do with it.  That’s when I stopped believing in unicorns and ferries....made me grow up real quick.  

    Better create a separate thread for that so you don't flood this one....
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    ecdanc said:
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    I like that people here are all "Sanders guarantees Trump four more years............because I refuse to vote for Sanders!" 
    I think I m the only person here who would vote trump over sanders.   ;)
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10 said:
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    I think I m the only person here who would vote trump over sanders.   ;)
    Yeah, you're the [redacted] I was pointing at. 
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    edited February 2020
    ecdanc said:
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    Would I rather have four more years of Trump or eight years of Bloomberg (or, alternately, 4 years of Bloomberg and four years of whatever POS beats him in 2024)? 
    If once perception is that electing republican egomaniac Billionaire Bloomberg as a democratic president would shatter any credibility of the democratic party - than voting in 4 more years of Trump over the damage Bloomberg would do makes the choice even easier. 

    But voting in Bernie "The nordic countries seem to do things quite right" Sanders saves everyone the trouble of the Sophies choice.
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