Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    nicknyr15 said:
    Scalpers will be locked into the msg listings. 24:7. There will be almost no chance for the average fan to pick up msg f2f. If anyone even lists them there. My experience so far is that the secondary market is too tempting for anyone , fan club members included, to resist unfortunately. It’s one of the most cut throat situations I’ve seen. Stickmanhockey can attest to that. Luckily this will only be for the MSG shows. But I’m very close to going with stubhub. Msg face value seems like an impossibility at this point. I sincerely hope I have better luck if there is a fall tour. Good luck to everyone in other markets! Hope everyone scores. 
    This is correct. There’s no reason for the F2F to exist for MSG - if someone wants to sell for face they can do so on StubHub or via the forum - and if it does exist there’s no reason for anyone to list there, and if for some reason it does exist and people do list there, it will be botted to death on a historical level. Your best bet for MSG is to watch StubHub carefully and see if there’s something you can stomach, or try to get a buddy on the G2F forum, probably as we get closer to show date. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    tdawe said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Scalpers will be locked into the msg listings. 24:7. There will be almost no chance for the average fan to pick up msg f2f. If anyone even lists them there. My experience so far is that the secondary market is too tempting for anyone , fan club members included, to resist unfortunately. It’s one of the most cut throat situations I’ve seen. Stickmanhockey can attest to that. Luckily this will only be for the MSG shows. But I’m very close to going with stubhub. Msg face value seems like an impossibility at this point. I sincerely hope I have better luck if there is a fall tour. Good luck to everyone in other markets! Hope everyone scores. 
    This is correct. There’s no reason for the F2F to exist for MSG - if someone wants to sell for face they can do so on StubHub or via the forum - and if it does exist there’s no reason for anyone to list there, and if for some reason it does exist and people do list there, it will be botted to death on a historical level. Your best bet for MSG is to watch StubHub carefully and see if there’s something you can stomach, or try to get a buddy on the G2F forum, probably as we get closer to show date. 

    Why would someone trying to sell for face pay fees to do so through stubhub if they had the f2f option as an alternative?
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  • robis726
    robis726 Posts: 132
    Do we know what time this goes live on Feb 18?
    Oh, if I knew where it was I would take you there...

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Scalpers will be locked into the msg listings. 24:7. There will be almost no chance for the average fan to pick up msg f2f. If anyone even lists them there. My experience so far is that the secondary market is too tempting for anyone , fan club members included, to resist unfortunately. It’s one of the most cut throat situations I’ve seen. Stickmanhockey can attest to that. Luckily this will only be for the MSG shows. But I’m very close to going with stubhub. Msg face value seems like an impossibility at this point. I sincerely hope I have better luck if there is a fall tour. Good luck to everyone in other markets! Hope everyone scores. 

    The f2f exchange hasn't opened yet. It may very well prove to be an impossibility, but why declare it to be one before even trying it?
    It’s my opinion. And I’m only talking about msg. In my experience so far, I’ve been approached by members here and on Facebook with msg tickets for sale, and none were face value. Imo, face value msg tickets will be next to impossible. Plus I’m sure the vulture scalpers, who do this for a living, will eat up any tickets that shows up on the exchange. I hope I’m wrong, but I highly doubt I am. 
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    JimmyV said:
    tdawe said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Scalpers will be locked into the msg listings. 24:7. There will be almost no chance for the average fan to pick up msg f2f. If anyone even lists them there. My experience so far is that the secondary market is too tempting for anyone , fan club members included, to resist unfortunately. It’s one of the most cut throat situations I’ve seen. Stickmanhockey can attest to that. Luckily this will only be for the MSG shows. But I’m very close to going with stubhub. Msg face value seems like an impossibility at this point. I sincerely hope I have better luck if there is a fall tour. Good luck to everyone in other markets! Hope everyone scores. 
    This is correct. There’s no reason for the F2F to exist for MSG - if someone wants to sell for face they can do so on StubHub or via the forum - and if it does exist there’s no reason for anyone to list there, and if for some reason it does exist and people do list there, it will be botted to death on a historical level. Your best bet for MSG is to watch StubHub carefully and see if there’s something you can stomach, or try to get a buddy on the G2F forum, probably as we get closer to show date. 

    Why would someone trying to sell for face pay fees to do so through stubhub if they had the f2f option as an alternative?
    The possibility of people selling on StubHub is a reason why they wouldn’t bother setting up the exchange in the first place. The only reason for TM to set up and administer the exchanges is to provide people a way to transfer non-transferable tickets. For NY and CO it’s not solving that problem because that problem doesn’t exist. 

    If they do set it up, my guess is that the number of people who 1) are committed to selling for face rather than market price, 2) know about the F2F exchange, 3) care enough about not making the buyer incur StubHub fees that they’d bother to figure out how to use the exchange and 4) wouldn’t just sell to a friend or through the forum will be exceedingly small. 

    I understand why people who are desperate for MSG tickets and don’t want to pay on StubHub are hoping that this exchange will solve their problems. But I really don’t think it will, if it exists at all. 
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,743
    If the people willing to pay thousands for MSG just save it for a few months they can probably see 3-4 shows for the price of 1 MSG ticket.

  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    gotthebottle said:
    If the people willing to pay thousands for MSG just save it for a few months they can probably see 3-4 shows for the price of 1 MSG ticket.

    Or they could do both. 
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,743
    edited February 2020
    tdawe said:
    gotthebottle said:
    If the people willing to pay thousands for MSG just save it for a few months they can probably see 3-4 shows for the price of 1 MSG ticket.

    Or they could do both. 
    no kidding....good for them. I got 4 shows, all face value...if someone wants to spend a mortgage payment on a concert that's their choice of course. But all the boo hoo'ing about the cost and if they choose to spend they better not boo hooo anymore

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    gotthebottle said:
    tdawe said:
    gotthebottle said:
    If the people willing to pay thousands for MSG just save it for a few months they can probably see 3-4 shows for the price of 1 MSG ticket.

    Or they could do both. 
    no kidding....good for them. I got 4 shows, all face value...if someone wants to spend a mortgage payment on a concert that's their choice of course. But all the boo hoo'ing about the cost and if they choose to spend they better not boo hooo anymore

    What 
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,743
    it means people are free to pay what they want but don't complain about the price if you choose to spend it
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    gotthebottle said:
    it means people are free to pay what they want but don't complain about the price if you choose to spend it
    People are free to complain. Don’t read or respond to it. Just like people are free to gloat about going to 4 shows at face value. 
  • bobtoast
    bobtoast Posts: 26
    Will this be available for other shows or just PJ?
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    We still don’t have the most important piece of info: what time will these exchanges be going live?
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    I have not been able to find this-- is there a special site or subsite where you should  buy tickets on the exchange ? Or would you buy them just like any other TM ticket?
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,743
    rollings said:
    I have not been able to find this-- is there a special site or subsite where you should  buy tickets on the exchange ? Or would you buy them just like any other TM ticket?
    https://help.ticketmaster.ca/s/article/Fan-to-Fan-Ticket-Exchange?language=en_US
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    gotthebottle said:
    rollings said:
    I have not been able to find this-- is there a special site or subsite where you should  buy tickets on the exchange ? Or would you buy them just like any other TM ticket?
    https://help.ticketmaster.ca/s/article/Fan-to-Fan-Ticket-Exchange?language=en_US
    I read that.  It doesn't say
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    rollings said:
    gotthebottle said:
    rollings said:
    I have not been able to find this-- is there a special site or subsite where you should  buy tickets on the exchange ? Or would you buy them just like any other TM ticket?
    https://help.ticketmaster.ca/s/article/Fan-to-Fan-Ticket-Exchange?language=en_US
    I read that.  It doesn't say
    Yeah I don’t see that either.  
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  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    mcgruff10 said:
    rollings said:
    gotthebottle said:
    rollings said:
    I have not been able to find this-- is there a special site or subsite where you should  buy tickets on the exchange ? Or would you buy them just like any other TM ticket?
    https://help.ticketmaster.ca/s/article/Fan-to-Fan-Ticket-Exchange?language=en_US
    I read that.  It doesn't say
    Yeah I don’t see that either.  
    It says to "turn to the Exchange" to buy.  But there's not a separate link or anything so I'm going to  assume that you buy them just like any other TM ticket.  I just wish I knew this for sure beforehand 
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    Jason7192 said:
    I'd bet that the fan-to-fan ticket exchange for PJ is going to work very similar to the ticket exchange they already have set up for NBA, NHL, etc. No need for them to completely reinvent the wheel & design a totally different platform.

     Since they (Ticketmaster) already know what we paid for the tix, it would be pretty easy for them to just modify their existing platform to cap the sale amount at the amount originally paid instead of allowing the seller to choose the amount. 

    https://www.ticketexchangebyticketmaster.com/
    Aha.  This may be the link needed to buy tickets on the exchange 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited February 2020
    rollings said:
    Jason7192 said:
    I'd bet that the fan-to-fan ticket exchange for PJ is going to work very similar to the ticket exchange they already have set up for NBA, NHL, etc. No need for them to completely reinvent the wheel & design a totally different platform.

     Since they (Ticketmaster) already know what we paid for the tix, it would be pretty easy for them to just modify their existing platform to cap the sale amount at the amount originally paid instead of allowing the seller to choose the amount. 

    https://www.ticketexchangebyticketmaster.com/
    Aha.  This may be the link needed to buy tickets on the exchange 
    I just did a trial run with the Montreal Canadiens vs Phoenix Coyotes on Mar 3rd. It takes you to the same page whether you go through that link or the main page search link. It also has regular sale tickets mixed in with secondary sales. I am betting we can just go on the main page for Pearl Jam and it will be the same.  
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