The Democratic Presidential Debates

dignin · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

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dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

I don't understand why they would be showing up to protest Pete and not every other candidate? Or is this just the media monstering our nothings.

Cause Bernie is scared of Pete and has unleashed his dogs.

That's actually the opposite of what Bernie has done.

Uh sure. I believe him.

Just go with your gut then, ignore everything that he has said publicly these past couple of weeks.

I know you've convinced me with all the evidence you've presented.

That dark conspiracy runs deep.

mrussel1 · February 2020

ecdanc said:

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ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

dignin · February 2020

Spiritual_Chaos said:

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pjl44 said:

Bloomberg doesn't speak as coarsely as Trump and he has the vaunted D after his name, but I'd argue we're dealing with the same core personality concerns:

Authoritarian tendencies
Deference to authoritarian regimes
Racist policies
Sexism

Yes. Every video that is being released, every audio recording, every article shows a vile, disgusting person.

No, not even close to as bad as Trump.

Spiritual_Chaos · February 2020

dignin said:

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cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

I don't understand why they would be showing up to protest Pete and not every other candidate? Or is this just the media monstering our nothings.

Cause Bernie is scared of Pete and has unleashed his dogs.

That's actually the opposite of what Bernie has done.

Uh sure. I believe him.

Just go with your gut then, ignore everything that he has said publicly these past couple of weeks.

I know you've convinced me with all the evidence you've presented.

That dark conspiracy runs deep.

Pete Pals are sowing distrust. I think we all need to be wary of them and how they are behaving online.

I even believe there could be russian bots behind a lot of the Pete Paling on the internet. Just look at reddit, twitter and MSNBC.

Spoiler

/s

ecdanc · February 2020

mrussel1 said:

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ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

Spiritual_Chaos · February 2020

dignin said:

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Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjl44 said:

Bloomberg doesn't speak as coarsely as Trump and he has the vaunted D after his name, but I'd argue we're dealing with the same core personality concerns:

Authoritarian tendencies
Deference to authoritarian regimes
Racist policies
Sexism

Yes. Every video that is being released, every audio recording, every article shows a vile, disgusting person.

No, not even close to as bad as Trump.

The same "core personality concerns" =/= being "close to as bad"

mrussel1 · February 2020

Spiritual_Chaos said:

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dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

I don't understand why they would be showing up to protest Pete and not every other candidate? Or is this just the media monstering our nothings.

Cause Bernie is scared of Pete and has unleashed his dogs.

That's actually the opposite of what Bernie has done.

Uh sure. I believe him.

Just go with your gut then, ignore everything that he has said publicly these past couple of weeks.

I know you've convinced me with all the evidence you've presented.

That dark conspiracy runs deep.

Pete Pals are sowing distrust. I think we all need to be wary of them and how they are behaving online.

I even believe there could be russian bots behind a lot of the Pete Paling on the internet.

Spoiler
/s

Distrust against who? Can you provide some specific examples? I’ve seen you type Pete’s Pals but as of now I think it’s a Bernie counterattack, not a real swarm of people who act like Bernies.. My general,assumption now is Pete’s supporters are moderate democrats with jobs and kids, having better things to do than harass people online.

dignin · February 2020

Spiritual_Chaos said:

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dignin said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjl44 said:

Bloomberg doesn't speak as coarsely as Trump and he has the vaunted D after his name, but I'd argue we're dealing with the same core personality concerns:

Authoritarian tendencies
Deference to authoritarian regimes
Racist policies
Sexism

Yes. Every video that is being released, every audio recording, every article shows a vile, disgusting person.

No, not even close to as bad as Trump.

The same "core personality concerns" =/= being "close to as bad"

You look at their records by any objective measure Trump is worse.

And that really shouldn't be considered a defence of Bloomberg and more of a statement of how bad Trump is.

I don't like Bloomberg, would be my last choice in the current field, but if I could would hit the streets in support of him vs. Trump. If I could.

ecdanc · February 2020

dignin said:

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Spiritual_Chaos said:

dignin said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjl44 said:

Bloomberg doesn't speak as coarsely as Trump and he has the vaunted D after his name, but I'd argue we're dealing with the same core personality concerns:

Authoritarian tendencies
Deference to authoritarian regimes
Racist policies
Sexism

Yes. Every video that is being released, every audio recording, every article shows a vile, disgusting person.

No, not even close to as bad as Trump.

The same "core personality concerns" =/= being "close to as bad"

You look at their records by any objective measure Trump is worse.

And that really shouldn't be considered a defence of Bloomberg and more of a statement of how bad Trump is.

I don't like Bloomberg, would be my last choice in the current field, but if I could would hit the streets in support of him vs. Trump. If I could.

I don't entirely disagree, but this is not a claim I can accept at face-value.

mickeyrat · February 2020

mrussel1 said:

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ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

ecdanc · February 2020

mickeyrat said:

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mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

Lots of people support protests in theory, but disrupt their drive to work and they start asking to see the manager.

cincybearcat · February 2020

dignin said:

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cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

I don't understand why they would be showing up to protest Pete and not every other candidate? Or is this just the media monstering our nothings.

Cause Bernie is scared of Pete and has unleashed his dogs.

That's actually the opposite of what Bernie has done.

Uh sure. I believe him.

Just go with your gut then, ignore everything that he has said publicly these past couple of weeks.

I know you've convinced me with all the evidence you've presented.

That dark conspiracy runs deep.

I think I’ll believe what I see .... in 2016 and now in 2020

ecdanc · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

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dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

rgambs said:

I don't understand why they would be showing up to protest Pete and not every other candidate? Or is this just the media monstering our nothings.

Cause Bernie is scared of Pete and has unleashed his dogs.

That's actually the opposite of what Bernie has done.

Uh sure. I believe him.

Just go with your gut then, ignore everything that he has said publicly these past couple of weeks.

I know you've convinced me with all the evidence you've presented.

That dark conspiracy runs deep.

I think I’ll believe what I see .... in 2016 and now in 2020

When you have time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

mrussel1 · February 2020

ecdanc said:

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mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

Lots of people support protests in theory, but disrupt their drive to work and they start asking to see the manager.

Nothing convinces a person of the righteousness of your cause like blocking I-95 during rush hour, causing them to be late to pick up their child. If they were on the fence before, you get a real advocate by doing that.

cincybearcat · February 2020

Most recently

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/bernie-bros-could-become-liability-as-sanders-seeks-to-expand-base

mrussel1 · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

Most recently

https://abc6onyourside.com/news/nation-world/bernie-bros-could-become-liability-as-sanders-seeks-to-expand-base

It was probably Pete’s Pal dressed up like Bernie Bros

ecdanc · February 2020

mrussel1 said:

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ecdanc said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

Lots of people support protests in theory, but disrupt their drive to work and they start asking to see the manager.

Nothing convinces a person of the righteousness of your cause like blocking I-95 during rush hour, causing them to be late to pick up their child. If they were on the fence before, you get a real advocate by doing that.

I know. It's like when all those people took the good seats at the lunch counters. How were they expecting to win over the Woolworth's shoppers that way?!?!

mrussel1 · February 2020

ecdanc said:

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mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

Lots of people support protests in theory, but disrupt their drive to work and they start asking to see the manager.

Nothing convinces a person of the righteousness of your cause like blocking I-95 during rush hour, causing them to be late to pick up their child. If they were on the fence before, you get a real advocate by doing that.

I know. It's like when all those people took the good seats at the lunch counters. How were they expecting to win over the Woolworth's shoppers that way?!?!

Hardly the same. To compare the civil rights fight to any protests today is absurd. Who is today’s Bull Conner?

mrussel1 · February 2020

Ill retract a piece... the BLM protest is in the same ballpark as civil rights but certainly fractionally. Either way, the point of a protest should be, at the end of the day, effectuate change. And that change needs to convince the people that are ambivalent. There are more effective ways than blocking interstates, which effectively removes support.

cincybearcat · February 2020

ecdanc said:

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mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

ecdanc said:

mrussel1 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

rgambs said:

The anti-Pete thing really reminds me of Russian trolls.
We are so divided we are just ready to give Trump the White House without a fight.

These posts by SC and ecd are exactly why democrats repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.

if we don’t have an inspirational voice like Obama or Clinton to win the center we eat each other alive and lose.

hello conservative Supreme Court 2112.

Remember all of the protests against Obama by the Afican-American community because they said he was too upper middle class, not black enough? Remember how they complained that he represented all Democrats not just half Kenyan ones? Remember when a very small sub section of the population felt that he wasn't doing enough for their particular micro-demographic?

Yes, I do.

Oh good, so this will be just as useless. I guess Pete can expect 97% of the LGBT, etc vote too.

Are you just generally against protests, then?

Definitely. I think the First Amendment should be erased from the books and the 2A move up a slot and occupy both places. This is because I’m a Jacobin at heart. I’m impressed how you extracted that out of my previous post.

So, which protests are ok and which aren't?

Well I have a have a binary variable decision tree model that I run all political calculations through. It runs through a series of sub nodes and and anything that gets kicked during the analysis should automatically be illegal. I’m still running a test and control assessment but it appears I will land somewhere around 98% of all protests should be illegal and result in executions. All extremists should be shot is my basic rule in life.

sounds rather communist

Lots of people support protests in theory, but disrupt their drive to work and they start asking to see the manager.

I think this is a fair comment. In theory protest for change sounds great, until it effects your vacation, your commute, etc.

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