The Democratic Presidential Debates

ecdanc · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

cincybearcat · February 2020

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

ecdanc · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

One already responded. She said she would vote begrudgingly for Buttigieg or Klobuchar. Queer, white women in her 50s.

Lerxst1992 · February 2020

ecdanc said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

if "middle" equates to centrist, at least in part, why wouldnt a candidate court the vote of 43%(more now but haven't seen numbers) of all registered voters? seems incredibly stupid not to.....

2016?

We back to the ballroom dancing? Might I cut in?

Some might perceive Hilary as a centrist and her record supports that. But she was painted by the Rs as an out of touch liberal.

What gave the Rs argument staying power with swing state independents was her weak behavior and weak defense of her email server activities. She had no idea how to handle this topic from the moment she decided she wanted an unofficial second phone to the day she lost to trump.

mickeyrat · February 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

ecdanc said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

if "middle" equates to centrist, at least in part, why wouldnt a candidate court the vote of 43%(more now but haven't seen numbers) of all registered voters? seems incredibly stupid not to.....

2016?

We back to the ballroom dancing? Might I cut in?

Some might perceive Hilary as a centrist and her record supports that. But she was painted by the Rs as an out of touch liberal.

What gave the Rs argument staying power with swing state independents was her weak behavior and weak defense of her email server activities. She had no idea how to handle this topic from the moment she decided she wanted an unofficial second phone to the day she lost to trump.

I dont recall being asked for my vote........ she got it anyway but .......

The Juggler · February 2020

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

By telling us what a few people, who may or may not exist, supposedly think about Amy Kobuchar and Pete Buttigieg.

Ignore the middle and enjoy another four years of this nonsense.

Do you go around calling most people liars? Or is that special for me?

As for your last sentence, I just wish we had a recent US presidential election (like one in the last four years or so) that I could point to as a moment when appealing to the centrists failed. Give me some time, I might be able to come up with one.

Just you.

2018 tells you all you need to know about why your philosophy is trash. '16 would've worked had you people not nominated a horrible candidate. And she still got almost 3 million more votes.

The Juggler · February 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

cincybearcat said:

The Russian troll farm has hit the AMT.

Reddit politics is so in love with Bernie I'm seriously thinking its Russians trying to build him up

For crying out loud he won by 1% in his own backyard and they're acting like he is invincible

I can't imagine how excited they were 4 years ago when he got 60% of the vote.

ecdanc · February 2020

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

By telling us what a few people, who may or may not exist, supposedly think about Amy Kobuchar and Pete Buttigieg.

Ignore the middle and enjoy another four years of this nonsense.

Do you go around calling most people liars? Or is that special for me?

As for your last sentence, I just wish we had a recent US presidential election (like one in the last four years or so) that I could point to as a moment when appealing to the centrists failed. Give me some time, I might be able to come up with one.

Just you.

2018 tells you all you need to know about why your philosophy is trash. '16 would've worked had you people not nominated a horrible candidate. And she still got almost 3 million more votes.

“You people?” The communists?

Lerxst1992 · February 2020

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

ecdanc said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

if "middle" equates to centrist, at least in part, why wouldnt a candidate court the vote of 43%(more now but haven't seen numbers) of all registered voters? seems incredibly stupid not to.....

2016?

We back to the ballroom dancing? Might I cut in?

Some might perceive Hilary as a centrist and her record supports that. But she was painted by the Rs as an out of touch liberal.

What gave the Rs argument staying power with swing state independents was her weak behavior and weak defense of her email server activities. She had no idea how to handle this topic from the moment she decided she wanted an unofficial second phone to the day she lost to trump.

I dont recall being asked for my vote........ she got it anyway but .......

“Everyday Americans need a champion. And I want to be that champion,” Mrs. Clinton said. “So I’m hitting the road to earn your vote — because it’s your time. And I hope you’ll join me on this journey.”

I guess she’s assuming journey = vote.

ecdanc · February 2020

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

rgambs · February 2020

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

dignin · February 2020

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

There are many people here on the AMT like that.

ecdanc · February 2020

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

That’s not the only choice.

benjs · February 2020

ecdanc said:

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

That’s not the only choice.

Wouldn't that depend on what your goal is? If your goal is to prevent a Trump victory, you have two ways to influence the election in a meaningful way - don't give your vote to him, and do give your vote to the candidate likeliest to beat him (which will be the nominee from the DNC). If you choose not to give your vote to him, you have done 50% of what you can do in total to help him lose. The other 50% is tied in with voting for the Democrat contender.

pjl44 · February 2020

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

People are worn out on The Lesser Evil. They'll stay home. They need a reason to vote *for* someone.

cincybearcat · February 2020

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

Interesting. Cause I know I have some built in benefits so a 2nd trump term likely won’t effect me personally a whole lot. But I would think it would effect a queer black man pretty directly. So I would have assumed (apparently wrongfully) that he’d be anyone but trump.

rgambs · February 2020

ecdanc said:

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

That’s not the only choice.

It is. The Democratic nominee will be President or Trump will be President.
Anything other notion is wishing in one hand and shitting in the other.

I wish it wasn't this way as much as anyone, but it just IS.

mrussel1 · February 2020

pjl44 said:

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

People are worn out on The Lesser Evil. They'll stay home. They need a reason to vote *for* someone.

They stayed home in 16, didn't in 08 and 12. Look at what staying home has wrought compared to the Obama years.

pjl44 · February 2020

mrussel1 said:

pjl44 said:

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

People are worn out on The Lesser Evil. They'll stay home. They need a reason to vote *for* someone.

They stayed home in 16, didn't in 08 and 12. Look at what staying home has wrought compared to the Obama years.

For sure. I don't know that there's an Obama in this group. I know what the national polls say, but going up against an incumbent in a strong economy is an uphill battle as it is.

Halifax2TheMax · February 2020

pjl44 said:

rgambs said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

cincybearcat said:

ecdanc said:

The Juggler said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

ecdanc said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Some descriptions/comments I've seen recently

An interesting tactic to take no responsibility for things one types.

The word you're looking for is "liar" if you'd like to go ahead and say it.

My opinion is that you are posting things like this to elicit responses - specifically to try and anger people who you believe oppose your views. The response I have is to laugh & to find the humor in idiotic statements like this -
"I fucking despise Pete Buttigieg, and the insufferable whiteness of the secure cis gays who support him.".
Am I allowed to have an opinion?

It's a discussion board: the goal of most posts is to elicit responses.

And, no, I'm not trying to anger people. I'm responding to the numerous people on this thread (and others) who literally can't imagine that such people exist (see the entire "QueersagainstPete" exchange).

All of the people I quoted above plan to vote in the general election (I'm not sure if they plan to participate in their respective Democratic primaries/caucuses), yet this board seems to think that the only votes to be gained or lost are the moderates. I think it's worthwhile to point out that's not the case. People her keep talking around the concept of "electability" (i.e. who can beat Trump), but many of you seem to imagine that all voters are like you or to your right.

You're quoting a few of your friends here and, I guess, somehow extrapolating those few opinions towards millions of voters.

When you have the chance, could you get back to us with your Aunt's neighbor's son's opinion on Joe Biden please? Thank you.

I'm not extrapolating anything. I'm challenging the notion that courting the middle is desirable.

So ask your friends. If Pete gets the nomination, will they vote trump? Stay home? Or vote democrat.

K. I’ll get back to you.

I look forward to hearing what they say.

2nd response. Queer black man in his 30s. Says he doesn't think he could bring himself to vote for Buttigieg or Klobuchar, citing specifically their anti-black policies/actions.

That just makes me shake my head. You know your choice is _____ or Trump and you can't bring yourself to vote for _____?

People are worn out on The Lesser Evil. They'll stay home. They need a reason to vote *for* someone.

And those Berniebrosises deserve everything they get and then some. Reap what ye shall sow, yo!

”The lesser evil.” LOL.

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