I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
No, I just don’t buy into what you’re trying to sell, that because your friends share the beliefs of a faceturd shared queersagainstpete internet agitprop that it makes it a “political movement” that exhibits legitimacy and transparency. It’s as much of a political movement as I am aligned with middleagedlibtardpersonsagainsttrump is. Let me go down in a basement and share it on social media and I’ll have a political movement running rampant.
Please let me know who is actually behind queersagainstpete when you get a chance. Maybe check with Bernie? When and where is the rally?
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
No, I just don’t buy into what you’re trying to sell, that because your friends share the beliefs of a faceturd shared queersagainstpete internet agitprop that it makes it a “political movement” that exhibits legitimacy and transparency. It’s as much of a political movement as I am aligned with middleagedlibtardpersonsagainsttrump is. Let me go down in a basement and share it on social media and I’ll have a political movement running rampant.
Please let me know who is actually behind queersagainstpete when you get a chance. Maybe check with Bernie? When and where is the rally?
Please, tell me what political activity you take part in, so I can emulate you.
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
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I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
No, I just don’t buy into what you’re trying to sell, that because your friends share the beliefs of a faceturd shared queersagainstpete internet agitprop that it makes it a “political movement” that exhibits legitimacy and transparency. It’s as much of a political movement as I am aligned with middleagedlibtardpersonsagainsttrump is. Let me go down in a basement and share it on social media and I’ll have a political movement running rampant.
Please let me know who is actually behind queersagainstpete when you get a chance. Maybe check with Bernie? When and where is the rally?
Please, tell me what political activity you take part in, so I can emulate you.
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
wtf?
You can't tell me who the "We" is of this organizatiojn, can you? From the queersagainstpete About Us page. WTF?
We believe the LGBTQIA community deserves better than Pete.
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
No, I just don’t buy into what you’re trying to sell, that because your friends share the beliefs of a faceturd shared queersagainstpete internet agitprop that it makes it a “political movement” that exhibits legitimacy and transparency. It’s as much of a political movement as I am aligned with middleagedlibtardpersonsagainsttrump is. Let me go down in a basement and share it on social media and I’ll have a political movement running rampant.
Please let me know who is actually behind queersagainstpete when you get a chance. Maybe check with Bernie? When and where is the rally?
Please, tell me what political activity you take part in, so I can emulate you.
I run a bot farm with memes and gifs.
Sadly, I think if you did that you'd be doing a lot more than you actually do.
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
wtf?
You can't tell me who the "We" is of this organizatiojn, can you? From the queersagainstpete About Us page. WTF?
We believe the LGBTQIA community deserves better than Pete.
You're really hung up on that page, man. How does this work for you: I personally know members of that LGBTQIA community who say "we deserve better than Pete." You can dismiss that particular page if you want, but you're going WAY beyond that.
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
Then don't bitch at all when Trump wins. I haven't quite followed but it looks like with the possible exception of Bernie, you're either voting third or not voting in the general, as is your right. But you know the reality. You know that fifth party candidate you vote for isn't going to win. So that means you either think Trump's not gunning for dictatorship (he is), the Dem candidate also will (they won't), or you value the sanctity of your vote more than whether or not that happens (???).
If you are sitting there on election night legitimately indifferent as to whether Trump or (for instance) Pete wins, then I guess I can't tell you you're wrong. But if you stick to your principles while hoping Pete wins...cling to them like a life preserver, I guess.
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I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
wtf?
You can't tell me who the "We" is of this organizatiojn, can you? From the queersagainstpete About Us page. WTF?
We believe the LGBTQIA community deserves better than Pete.
You're really hung up on that page, man. How does this work for you: I personally know members of that LGBTQIA community who say "we deserve better than Pete." You can dismiss that particular page if you want, but you're going WAY beyond that.
Because I believe its contrived by berniebrosises and not a "political movement?" Okay, I'm really hung up on it. In fact, I couldn't sleep last night. If Pete were straight, would there be a queersagainstpete "political movement?" Like there's a queersagainsttrump "political movement?"
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
@OnWis97 in fairness, this poster believes the Communist Revolution of 1917 was a good thing. So it's really tough to find a compromise position when that's the starting point. If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
Then don't bitch at all when Trump wins. I haven't quite followed but it looks like with the possible exception of Bernie, you're either voting third or not voting in the general, as is your right. But you know the reality. You know that fifth party candidate you vote for isn't going to win. So that means you either think Trump's not gunning for dictatorship (he is), the Dem candidate also will (they won't), or you value the sanctity of your vote more than whether or not that happens (???).
If you are sitting there on election night legitimately indifferent as to whether Trump or (for instance) Pete wins, then I guess I can't tell you you're wrong. But if you stick to your principles while hoping Pete wins...cling to them like a life preserver, I guess.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
@OnWis97 in fairness, this poster believes the Communist Revolution of 1917 was a good thing. So it's really tough to find a compromise position when that's the starting point. If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
Well that's his right...of course, if Trump is re-elected, I suggest he keep that to himself...
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It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
@OnWis97 in fairness, this poster believes the Communist Revolution of 1917 was a good thing. So it's really tough to find a compromise position when that's the starting point. If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?
Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
More.
You have a highly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics, it appears.
Maybe I should have said are they registered as a PAC or any type of organization that would lend them an ounce of credibility? It seems you may confuse what might be legitimate in this age of troll farms and social media that can’t possibly influence an election, particularly a democratic primary season. Did you register on their site or link for the email blasts?
Berniebrosises not having a queersagainsttrumppence after Team Trump Treason embraced the rainbow flag then basically did an about face on so many LGBTA policies should be a clue, yes?
So anyone who isn't a PAC or "any type of organization" can't make a credible political statement? Are you a PAC? Can you make credible political statements?
As for the last part, gtfo. Trust me: the queer folks I know have done more to combat Trump than most.
I’m an individual speaking up and out for myself and not trying to represent or misrepresent a group and claim to speak for them. Has Bernie endorsed or made public statements to the effect of I welcome the support of queersagainstpete? Let me guess, you have 6,000 Facebook friends?
So, "queerindividualsagainstPete" would has been ok with you?
I don't understand your last two questions.
If that’s how you want to label yourself, that’s fine but you, or queersagainstpete, shouldn’t claim to speak for all queers and claim Pete’s policies are harmful to all queers.
Has Bernie endorsed or welcomed queersagainstpete’s advocacy?
Read up on Russian troll farms manipulation of faceturd and social media to better understand how “movements” or political advocacy groups can appear to have a mass following when in fact it’s Putin on the ritz’s trolls. Hence my request for “legitimacy,” or a past history of similar advocacy.
Who is worse for queers, Team Trump Treason or Mayor Pete?
I don't think QueersagainstPete claims to have any sort of mass following. It looks to me like the small-scale political action I see all the time (and that, to me, is the essence of politics). I also don't think it claims either of the things you accuse it of in your first paragraph.
As for your last paragraph, I offer you a quote from Stalin: "they're both worse."
Again, read up on Putin on the ritz’s troll farms so you understand how that technique is now the operative method of almost any candidate, party and supporter because it’s so successful. The majority of those “small scale political actions” are complete fabrications.
As for your last sentence, sure they are, sure. You still haven’t answered my questions regarding Bernie’s welcoming of queersagainstpete’s advocacy. Why is that?
I should add that many of my Facebook friends and a fair number of my real-life friends are going to be disappointed to learn they're actually Russian-troll fabrications.
You could have said that earlier.
Do you know anyone who started the “organization” queersagainstpete?
I do not, but I know people (some of whom are queer) with the exact same views. I worry that you'll use your fear of Russian trolls to pretend they don't exist.
Sorry, but I'm not buying that queersagainstpete is some legitimate political movement. And I wouldn't dismiss the LGBTIA community's grievances as a fabrication of putin on the ritz's. The dems need to appeal to indies and Bernie ain't appealing to indies and to even less of dems than 2016. I can't wait for the queersagainstbillionaires political movement to get going. Should be about 6-8 weeks from now.
A straightforward question: are my friends who agree with the site, but are not affiliated with it, part of a “legitimate political movement?”
No
How much on-the-ground organizing do you do?
You mean like Obama did?
I mean like my friends do. I'll return to my earlier point: you have an absurdly circumscribed notion of what constitutes politics.
Are your friends organizing queersagainstpete? Or are they coming up with faux political movements and organizations, posting them to faceturd and asking their “friends” to join or come on board, mostly pro-Bernie and anti-Pete?
wtf?
You can't tell me who the "We" is of this organizatiojn, can you? From the queersagainstpete About Us page. WTF?
We believe the LGBTQIA community deserves better than Pete.
You're really hung up on that page, man. How does this work for you: I personally know members of that LGBTQIA community who say "we deserve better than Pete." You can dismiss that particular page if you want, but you're going WAY beyond that.
Because I believe its contrived by berniebrosises and not a "political movement?" Okay, I'm really hung up on it. In fact, I couldn't sleep last night. If Pete were straight, would there be a queersagainstpete "political movement?" Like there's a queersagainsttrump "political movement?"
It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
@OnWis97 in fairness, this poster believes the Communist Revolution of 1917 was a good thing. So it's really tough to find a compromise position when that's the starting point. If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
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It's awesome if you like Donald J. Trump as your president.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean that damaging any D candidate can't hurt our chance of knocking him off. If you're expecting the worker's revolution to happen before November, I suggest a different strategy.
Maybe they aren't concerned with your "chance of knocking him off," but with the actual underlying disease.....
The disease will metastasize much faster with him in there than with some "awful" centrist Dem. And if they don't see that, I have no idea what to tell them...but they're heels are every bit as dug in as Trump's supporters' are.
Did the disease improve under Obama? I don't think so.
Did it grow the way it has under Trump? Go ahead and have your problems with Obama, Biden, et al (I do), but ideal has become the enemy of good (adequate, if you prefer). Trump and the Democratic nominee Are. Not. The. Same.
Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
Except the options you're offering are not the "ideal" and the "good;" they're the "really bad" and the "face-meltingly awful." Lesser evilism is not good praxis.
@OnWis97 in fairness, this poster believes the Communist Revolution of 1917 was a good thing. So it's really tough to find a compromise position when that's the starting point. If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
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He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
We are getting pretty far afield from the thread's main topic, though.
The best for the LBTQ community, the communists, the women who are about to have a baby, the animals, pearl jam fans and everyone in between, is Bernie Sanders.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
That's why we have the Electoral College!
(Kidding...that makes it worse)
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He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
I don't think you're totally off base here but isn't there a difference between democratically electing leaders and employing a democratic vote on individual laws? Is there a primer on how you make decisions from an anarcho-communist perspective in a country set up like the US? Or does it require stripping down the idea of state govt, federal govt, etc.?
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
This is one of the starangest posts I've ever read on this board (and that's saying something). First off, as the 2016 election showed, it's not about majoritarian because Trump didn't get a majority of the votes. Secondly, what the hell type of system would you prefer if you think voting is a form of violence? Dictatorships? Monarchies?
He's not asking for a compromise; he's asking me to compromise.
Guilty as charged. "All or none" isn't working too well.
Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
I'm an anarcho-communist.
Not sure who is a leading US personality in that area. How far outside of that philosophy can you vote? Because I don't see one getting elected to, well, anything in the enforceable future.
Generally speaking, I do not vote. I consider voting a form of violence (that statement should go over well here). After much soul-searching, I did vote in the 2016 presidential election, however.
I don't think that statement would go over well anywhere. How is voting a form of violence?
It's a hit at parties!
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
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Please let me know who is actually behind queersagainstpete when you get a chance. Maybe check with Bernie? When and where is the rally?
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Expecting perfection leaves a lot to ignore...
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We believe the LGBTQIA community deserves better than Pete.
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If you are sitting there on election night legitimately indifferent as to whether Trump or (for instance) Pete wins, then I guess I can't tell you you're wrong. But if you stick to your principles while hoping Pete wins...cling to them like a life preserver, I guess.
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If I started by saying that I thought the Holocaust was a positive because there were too many Jews anyway, you'd have a hard time compromising with me on the appropriate penalties for hate crimes in this country.
Elsewhere, Corey has repeatedly compared Trump's presidency to Jimmy Carter's in terms of what Trump has actually accomplished.
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Curious...what currently living US citizen would you like to see be president?
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2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley
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Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Majoritarian rule is a form of violence; ergo, voting is a form of violence.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
(Kidding...that makes it worse)
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