The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    The Juggler said:
    pjl44 said:
    The Juggler said:
    This Iran nonsense is a gift to Joe Biden. Those Obama voters who voted Trump will appreciate his steady leadership over this impulsive fuck who may have started ww3....
    I think it could boost him in the primary, but I wouldn't be so sure about the general election. A lot of that depends on where this all goes in the near term.
    See I think it plays better in a general than in a primary....
    I think if the blowback is fierce or we wind up putting a lot of boots on the ground, it's bad for Trump. If they only hit military targets in the Middle East, I think voters can be swayed that he's tough on terrorists. 

    I also feel the need to say my opinions on this whole Iran thing are much broader, but I'm trying to stay on topic to the Presidential election. There's so, so much more at stake beyond that. 
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Bernie would go full freak out mode on Trump in a debate. A part of me wants a Bernie/Trump debate. We need someone who can out shit talk Trump, I feel Biden has lost his edge on talking shit, lol. IDK

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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    edited January 2020
    benjs said:
    The Juggler said:
    darwinstheory said:
    I think donnie will own Biden or Warren in a debate. I think Pete would be the only Dem who could own donnie during a debate.
    Hillary owned Donnie in '16 all three times and what good did that do her?
    I really don't agree with that perspective. Yes, the Democrat consensus seemed to be that Clinton debated better, but Trump regularly got her to stop talking mid-phrase by making an outrageous and embellished soundbite, which then lived on in the media far longer than anything pragmatic Clinton said. I'd hardly call that being "owned".
    Especially after she tucked her tail and kept quiet when he did his "because you'd be in jail" one-liner. That was an opportunity to go at him hard. "No, Donald. YOU should be in jail. You don't pay your taxes, you don't pay your workers, and you've been accused of sexual assault multiple times!" 

    Okay maybe she's not the right person to reference someone else's sexual assaults. But you get the point. She just stood there with a smirk as if to imply "Whatever, Donald. I just have to be here at this debate as a formality. In a few months, I'll be President and nobody will care about your stupid one-liners."
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    benjs said:
    The Juggler said:
    darwinstheory said:
    I think donnie will own Biden or Warren in a debate. I think Pete would be the only Dem who could own donnie during a debate.
    Hillary owned Donnie in '16 all three times and what good did that do her?
    I really don't agree with that perspective. Yes, the Democrat consensus seemed to be that Clinton debated better, but Trump regularly got her to stop talking mid-phrase by making an outrageous and embellished soundbite, which then lived on in the media far longer than anything pragmatic Clinton said. I'd hardly call that being "owned".
    Especially after she tucked her tail and kept quiet when he did his "because you'd be in jail" one-liner. That was an opportunity to go at him hard. "No, Donald. YOU should be in jail. You don't pay your taxes, you don't pay your workers, and you've been accused of sexual assault multiple times!" 

    Okay maybe she's not the right person to reference someone else's sexual assaults. But you get the point. She just stood there with a smirk as if to imply "Whatever, Donald. I just have to be here at this debate as a formality. In a few months, I'll be President and nobody will care about your stupid one-liners."

    She played by the old rules where you act with respect. When donnie brought all of Bill's ex GFs to the debate, that should have been a wakeup call to Hilary that the game has changed. 

    For example, when he stalked her behind her back, she could have turned around  and said " what the eff is wrong with you? Has it been too long since you walked into a lockeroon of naked 15 year old girls?"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    it's not hillary's fault tRUmp is President*

    stop victim-blaming
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    CM189191 said:
    it's not hillary's fault tRUmp is President*

    stop victim-blaming
    We're all victims...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    The Juggler said:
    darwinstheory said:
    I think donnie will own Biden or Warren in a debate. I think Pete would be the only Dem who could own donnie during a debate.
    Hillary owned Donnie in '16 all three times and what good did that do her?
    intellectually and high-ground-ingly she did, yes. but in terms of childishness and schoolyard mockery, which seemed to resonate with 65 million people, no. 

    I honestly think that so many of these people just couldn't wait for some clown to come by and stop making them feel stupid because he's one of them. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    I was just in Florida for 10 days over christmas and saw NOT ONE MAGA HAT OR BUMPER STICKER or reference to being a trump supporter in any way, shape, or fashion. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I was just in Florida for 10 days over christmas and saw NOT ONE MAGA HAT OR BUMPER STICKER or reference to being a trump supporter in any way, shape, or fashion. 

    They are out there.  Lots of 'em.
    Probably sitting inside eating either foie gras or fried gator.  Top and bottom of the food chain support.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    benjs said:
    The Juggler said:
    darwinstheory said:
    I think donnie will own Biden or Warren in a debate. I think Pete would be the only Dem who could own donnie during a debate.
    Hillary owned Donnie in '16 all three times and what good did that do her?
    I really don't agree with that perspective. Yes, the Democrat consensus seemed to be that Clinton debated better, but Trump regularly got her to stop talking mid-phrase by making an outrageous and embellished soundbite, which then lived on in the media far longer than anything pragmatic Clinton said. I'd hardly call that being "owned".
    Especially after she tucked her tail and kept quiet when he did his "because you'd be in jail" one-liner. That was an opportunity to go at him hard. "No, Donald. YOU should be in jail. You don't pay your taxes, you don't pay your workers, and you've been accused of sexual assault multiple times!" 

    Okay maybe she's not the right person to reference someone else's sexual assaults. But you get the point. She just stood there with a smirk as if to imply "Whatever, Donald. I just have to be here at this debate as a formality. In a few months, I'll be President and nobody will care about your stupid one-liners."

    She played by the old rules where you act with respect. When donnie brought all of Bill's ex GFs to the debate, that should have been a wakeup call to Hilary that the game has changed. 

    For example, when he stalked her behind her back, she could have turned around  and said " what the eff is wrong with you? Has it been too long since you walked into a lockeroon of naked 15 year old girls?"
    Yeah I think the majority of Americans agreed Hillary won those debates. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    edited January 2020
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Glad you’re Canadian ;)
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Glad you’re Canadian ;)
    who do you like so far? Pete?
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Glad you’re Canadian ;)
    who do you like so far? Pete?
    Pete and Amy. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,026
    EW too commie for you? LOL
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    EW too commie for you? LOL
    Yup. I think I’d like her as a person, but not my president.  But she’s better than Bernie. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,221
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    EW too commie for you? LOL
    Yup. I think I’d like her as a person, but not my president.  But she’s better than Bernie. 
    an infected wart is better than bernie.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    mickeyrat said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    EW too commie for you? LOL
    Yup. I think I’d like her as a person, but not my president.  But she’s better than Bernie. 
    an infected wart is better than bernie.
    :lol:
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Glad you’re Canadian ;)
    who do you like so far? Pete?
    Pete and Amy. 
    Amy for America!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    The Juggler said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    as a canadian who can't vote and whose opinion matters not regarding US elections, I'm firmly in camp warren. she's the most sensible and most "for the people" in my eyes. 
    Glad you’re Canadian ;)
    who do you like so far? Pete?
    Pete and Amy. 
    Amy for America!
    Pete, Amy, Joe... give me any of them.  
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