2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors
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Thanks! Been a 10c member for a year but a fan since the beginning. My first post in the forum. 😊RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Welcome aboard!Jamiechris2005 said:Need to get dates soon for my PTO request. 😬Hoping to make some Cali or Phoenix shows. 😃0 -
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This is good news!vedpunk said:
Fall = Texasstrangesttribe007 said:I was told by someone who is in the know of Houston activities that PJ is here in the fall after seeing my gf wear a PJ shirt at a get together we had last night. I recently moved to Houston and had hopes they would play here in the fall. After chatting it up with him, I got a lot more confidence with it.Hoping for a Baltimore and OKC or PHX trip this fall!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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CW55354 said:
I hope they never change the tenure rule. It’s why I keep paying my dues every year despite knowing they are touring less and less. If tenure means nothing, I’d just let it lapse and re-up when we get the hint to make sure memberships are up to date and so would a bunch of other people, costing the Ten Club money. It would be very risky for Pearl Jam to offer some kind of guarantee to people paying more, not only because it would piss off literally thousands of long time members, who at this point have paid hundreds of dollars in dues over the coarse of decades, but also because, let’s face it, there’s no guarantee Pearl Jam tours with any regularity to make it worth the expense. Think of how pissed off people are about the fan club single delays and imagine if they don’t tour regularly.Lost In Ohio said:stanudes said:Crazy idea that would piss off a lot of tenured members, but would raise a ton of money for charity.Imagine if PJ auctioned off some low, expired (no longer active) 10C membership numbers.Think of how much money they could raise for their foundations.How much would someone pay to never have to worry about the lottery again for great reserved seating?Wouldn’t ever happen, but just a thought I’ve had in my head for some time.
There's a few things going on here:
I guess I'd be tenured. My 279XXX is from Jan 2003 and I wouldn't be happy.
There really are "two" numbers. There's the one you see and a sort of "actual" one...what they need to do is "defrag" the system and everyone gets to move up into the gaps.
The second bold bit implies that lower numbers have an effect on lotto odds. They don't.I agree with you but the right thing to do would be to solve the no notice obstructed view issue, especially if there is no GA draw like Fenway. At time of purchase inform the buyer if the seats are obstructed. MLB.com had obstructed view notices on the original public on sale for specific Fenway tickets, TC did not. So we might see some new fine print on the rules next time.An option to solve would be to allocate a small pool- 500 decent full view seats (not the best) into its own random draw and reciprocate the same number GA tickets in a draw weighted in favor of the tenured numbers. No tenured fans get hurt by that, it actually would help. And it gives newer members an option to actually “see” the band or their screens.
The way the system is now for shows like Fenway has zero options for higher numbers and punishes fans that buy on “faith.”
let the bashing commence.0 -
My point had nothing to do with bands making money.dimitrispearljam said:
I think he told u the half truth.gotthebottle said:
Bands/Tours don't care about the fans that travel...they basically book for the fans in the area....if it's inconvenient for some to make travel plans, that doesn't bother the tour manager/booking people/band/etc....buck502000 said:
Seems kind of sudden, not a lot of time to plan. Book rooms, buy plane tickets, schedule days off ETC.....JDime20 said:
What would make Spring 2020 crazy? Just looking for some context around the ask.buck502000 said:Does anyone else think spring 2020 seems crazy for a US tour? Shouldn’t it be spring 2021 after the euro tour?
I was told that directly by Bruce Springsteen's tour manager......George Travis
It's business and they book where the promoter pays them. Not for local or travel fans.
And its fine actually.
Noone will book their band to play where there is risk lose money than make money same goes for promoters.
The point is... when someone says "not enough time to make plans for travel" the tour manager and planning is not made with traveling fans in mind. They know a certain number will travel but that's not important when deciding how far in advance to announce dates.
I've been seeing concerts for 40 years...I KNOW it's about $$0 -
I doubt there will be any bashing. This thread has proved to be pretty accepting of differing opinions.Lerxst1992 said:CW55354 said:
I hope they never change the tenure rule. It’s why I keep paying my dues every year despite knowing they are touring less and less. If tenure means nothing, I’d just let it lapse and re-up when we get the hint to make sure memberships are up to date and so would a bunch of other people, costing the Ten Club money. It would be very risky for Pearl Jam to offer some kind of guarantee to people paying more, not only because it would piss off literally thousands of long time members, who at this point have paid hundreds of dollars in dues over the coarse of decades, but also because, let’s face it, there’s no guarantee Pearl Jam tours with any regularity to make it worth the expense. Think of how pissed off people are about the fan club single delays and imagine if they don’t tour regularly.Lost In Ohio said:stanudes said:Crazy idea that would piss off a lot of tenured members, but would raise a ton of money for charity.Imagine if PJ auctioned off some low, expired (no longer active) 10C membership numbers.Think of how much money they could raise for their foundations.How much would someone pay to never have to worry about the lottery again for great reserved seating?Wouldn’t ever happen, but just a thought I’ve had in my head for some time.
There's a few things going on here:
I guess I'd be tenured. My 279XXX is from Jan 2003 and I wouldn't be happy.
There really are "two" numbers. There's the one you see and a sort of "actual" one...what they need to do is "defrag" the system and everyone gets to move up into the gaps.
The second bold bit implies that lower numbers have an effect on lotto odds. They don't.I agree with you but the right thing to do would be to solve the no notice obstructed view issue, especially if there is no GA draw like Fenway. At time of purchase inform the buyer if the seats are obstructed. MLB.com had obstructed view notices on the original public on sale for specific Fenway tickets, TC did not. So we might see some new fine print on the rules next time.An option to solve would be to allocate a small pool- 500 decent full view seats (not the best) into its own random draw and reciprocate the same number GA tickets in a draw weighted in favor of the tenured numbers. No tenured fans get hurt by that, it actually would help. And it gives newer members an option to actually “see” the band or their screens.
The way the system is now for shows like Fenway has zero options for higher numbers and punishes fans that buy on “faith.”
let the bashing commence.2016: Toronto I, Chicago I + II
2018: Seattle I + II, Chicago I + II
2020: Toronto, Ottawa, Quebec, Hamilton, Nashville, St. Louis, Krakow, Budapest, Zurich0 -
darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.0 -
Ga brings out some real winners.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Where were your seats at Fenway?Lerxst1992 said:CW55354 said:
I hope they never change the tenure rule. It’s why I keep paying my dues every year despite knowing they are touring less and less. If tenure means nothing, I’d just let it lapse and re-up when we get the hint to make sure memberships are up to date and so would a bunch of other people, costing the Ten Club money. It would be very risky for Pearl Jam to offer some kind of guarantee to people paying more, not only because it would piss off literally thousands of long time members, who at this point have paid hundreds of dollars in dues over the coarse of decades, but also because, let’s face it, there’s no guarantee Pearl Jam tours with any regularity to make it worth the expense. Think of how pissed off people are about the fan club single delays and imagine if they don’t tour regularly.Lost In Ohio said:stanudes said:Crazy idea that would piss off a lot of tenured members, but would raise a ton of money for charity.Imagine if PJ auctioned off some low, expired (no longer active) 10C membership numbers.Think of how much money they could raise for their foundations.How much would someone pay to never have to worry about the lottery again for great reserved seating?Wouldn’t ever happen, but just a thought I’ve had in my head for some time.
There's a few things going on here:
I guess I'd be tenured. My 279XXX is from Jan 2003 and I wouldn't be happy.
There really are "two" numbers. There's the one you see and a sort of "actual" one...what they need to do is "defrag" the system and everyone gets to move up into the gaps.
The second bold bit implies that lower numbers have an effect on lotto odds. They don't.I agree with you but the right thing to do would be to solve the no notice obstructed view issue, especially if there is no GA draw like Fenway. At time of purchase inform the buyer if the seats are obstructed. MLB.com had obstructed view notices on the original public on sale for specific Fenway tickets, TC did not. So we might see some new fine print on the rules next time.An option to solve would be to allocate a small pool- 500 decent full view seats (not the best) into its own random draw and reciprocate the same number GA tickets in a draw weighted in favor of the tenured numbers. No tenured fans get hurt by that, it actually would help. And it gives newer members an option to actually “see” the band or their screens.
The way the system is now for shows like Fenway has zero options for higher numbers and punishes fans that buy on “faith.”
let the bashing commence.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."0 -
Every band seems to have the "front rail bullies" who feel entitled and travel in packs. And when the lead singer acknowledges them it empowers them.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.
True, they line up for days.... but until bands themselves care about the process it won't change.
Bruce does lottery and it's annoying but keeps the same people from being up front all the time. His org started it for that reason... he was tired of seeing same faces.0 -
well stated.gotthebottle said:
Every band seems to have the "front rail bullies" who feel entitled and travel in packs. And when the lead singer acknowledges them it empowers them.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.
True, they line up for days.... but until bands themselves care about the process it won't change.
Bruce does lottery and it's annoying but keeps the same people from being up front all the time. His org started it for that reason... he was tired of seeing same faces.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
gotthebottle said:
Every band seems to have the "front rail bullies" who feel entitled and travel in packs. And when the lead singer acknowledges them it empowers them.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.
True, they line up for days.... but until bands themselves care about the process it won't change.
Bruce does lottery and it's annoying but keeps the same people from being up front all the time. His org started it for that reason... he was tired of seeing same faces.
I always find it puzzling that you get people who queue up for 2 or 3 days then they just stand there at the rail completely emotionless, I don't think even singing.0 -
I love the Bruce lottery. It eliminates the need or desire to line up at all and gives everybody an equal opportunity. I wish all GA was done that way.gotthebottle said:
Every band seems to have the "front rail bullies" who feel entitled and travel in packs. And when the lead singer acknowledges them it empowers them.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.
True, they line up for days.... but until bands themselves care about the process it won't change.
Bruce does lottery and it's annoying but keeps the same people from being up front all the time. His org started it for that reason... he was tired of seeing same faces.2006: Hartford
2008: Camden 2, Hartford
2010: Hartford
2013: Wrigley, Worcester x2, Hartford
2015: NYC
2016: Philly 2, MSG x2, Boston 2, (TOTD Philly 2, MSG)
2018: Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Boston x2
2022: San Diego, Sacramento, Las Vegas0 -
opsopcopolis said:
I love the Bruce lottery. It eliminates the need or desire to line up at all and gives everybody an equal opportunity. I wish all GA was done that way.gotthebottle said:
Every band seems to have the "front rail bullies" who feel entitled and travel in packs. And when the lead singer acknowledges them it empowers them.Lerxst1992 said:darwinstheory said:
You should have heard them at Wrigley around the rain delay. They were clearing everyone out of the GA section and one of the alpha male types (a tall bald headed dude) was outwardly threatening to beat the fuck out of anyone who tried to take his spot when they allowed people back on the field. It felt very safe great to be around such scum. I get the annoyances, but we were all subject to the shitshow that was the 2nd Wrigley rain delay. But we all knew something like that was a risk the day of the show. That clown at the very least should have been removed from the stadium.ZeldaZonk said:jeremyjmcb said:
Are the list, the hand marks, and the people controlling this still a thing? Is it worth it to try and line up for GA if you’re not part of this strange system? Just curious if others have had negative experiences with lining up for GA early.darthvedder said:on2legs said:
I’m lining up now.buck502000 said:
That should be on a tour shirt this year....on2legs said:
I am getting a tattoo on my hand of my GA line position.
I heard it was a real problem last year at the Seattle stadium shows. Something about a van full of Aussies who have also been doing in at Wrigley. It was in one of the threads, so I think it's still a problem.
Not sure if he was Aussie or not, but he was front & center and seemed to be with a decent sized group of people, sooo...
What a system, everyone should feel safe enjoying a show with fellow members.
True, they line up for days.... but until bands themselves care about the process it won't change.
Bruce does lottery and it's annoying but keeps the same people from being up front all the time. His org started it for that reason... he was tired of seeing same faces.
Agreed0 -
For sure wish Pearl Jam would do something like that with GA (similar to Springsteen and I believe U2). Sometimes I think they are lazy in certain areas.0
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I have no problem with groups of people that get there before be being on the rail. But if you are saying that I get there before them and they bully me out of my spot in line on the rail, that’s a problem. The whole number on the hand fiasco seems to have been fixed, at least for the US shows I’ve been to. I usually make friends pretty quick with the people around me and we have always stood up for each other when the people in the back try to weave their way up front. I do love how shocked and indignant they are when you explain to them that after waiting in line 12+ hours, you aren’t going to let them push in front of you.0
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Sorry for not back reading regarding the announcement date but is it more likely to be:
1/6 (tomorrow) or 1/13??
Thanks!0
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