The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And fundamentally stupid. 
    the problem with being a centrist is you have to deal with BOTH groups of assholes.......

    it gets tiring.
    Like.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And fundamentally stupid. 
    the problem with being a centrist is you have to deal with BOTH groups of assholes.......

    it gets tiring.


    What is a centrist?


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Here, let's summarize Obama's opinion:



    Y'all are being horseshoed.  There's no room for centrists or third parties.  Pick a side. Shit or get off the pot.  And so on...

    Spoiler alert: Both sides are not bad.  One side had proven itself to be fundamentally flawed and structurally unsound.  Traitors.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    have little interest in dialog when your points are made with memes and gifs. you cant be taken seriously.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    CM189191 said:
    Here, let's summarize Obama's opinion:



    Y'all are being horseshoed.  There's no room for centrists or third parties.  Pick a side. Shit or get off the pot.  And so on...

    Spoiler alert: Both sides are not bad.  One side had proven itself to be fundamentally flawed and structurally unsound.  Traitors.
    Except for that isn't true.  Let's look at social issues.. Are you arguing that the center has moved to the right on gay marriage?  How about civil rights issues?  How about marijuana reform?  The crux of your first meme seeks to argue that the centrists are okay with some discrimination.  That bullshit opinion is not backed up by any reality of where the country has moved since the 60's.  Get your history from somewhere other than memes.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Here, let's summarize Obama's opinion:



    Y'all are being horseshoed.  There's no room for centrists or third parties.  Pick a side. Shit or get off the pot.  And so on...

    Spoiler alert: Both sides are not bad.  One side had proven itself to be fundamentally flawed and structurally unsound.  Traitors.
    Except for that isn't true.  Let's look at social issues.. Are you arguing that the center has moved to the right on gay marriage?  How about civil rights issues?  How about marijuana reform?  The crux of your first meme seeks to argue that the centrists are okay with some discrimination.  That bullshit opinion is not backed up by any reality of where the country has moved since the 60's.  Get your history from somewhere other than memes.  
    So what?

    We won a few battles in the 60s & 70s.  Does that mean we give up ground now?

    No, we keep pushing a progressive agenda.  Because that's what attracts people to the Democratic party.  

    A mission, a goal, a vision.  None of this try to make everyone happy all the time bullshit.  

    Health care for all.  Education for all. Housing for all.  No one goes hungry.

    Eat the rich.  Bring out the guillotines.  

    I'm fucking tired of placating to racists, bigots, misogynists, and morons.  These people continuously vote against their own self interest. 

    They can't be reasoned our bargained with.  They only understand fear, uncertainty and doubt.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Here, let's summarize Obama's opinion:



    Y'all are being horseshoed.  There's no room for centrists or third parties.  Pick a side. Shit or get off the pot.  And so on...

    Spoiler alert: Both sides are not bad.  One side had proven itself to be fundamentally flawed and structurally unsound.  Traitors.
    Except for that isn't true.  Let's look at social issues.. Are you arguing that the center has moved to the right on gay marriage?  How about civil rights issues?  How about marijuana reform?  The crux of your first meme seeks to argue that the centrists are okay with some discrimination.  That bullshit opinion is not backed up by any reality of where the country has moved since the 60's.  Get your history from somewhere other than memes.  
    So what?

    We won a few battles in the 60s & 70s.  Does that mean we give up ground now?

    No, we keep pushing a progressive agenda.  Because that's what attracts people to the Democratic party.  

    A mission, a goal, a vision.  None of this try to make everyone happy all the time bullshit.  

    Health care for all.  Education for all. Housing for all.  No one goes hungry.

    Eat the rich.  Bring out the guillotines.  

    I'm fucking tired of placating to racists, bigots, misogynists, and morons.  These people continuously vote against their own self interest. 

    They can't be reasoned our bargained with.  They only understand fear, uncertainty and doubt.  
    You sound like a Jacobin.  I hope this post is a joke.  Regardless, the meme you started with is fundamentally dishonest and you agreed with my counterpoint.  Surely you do not believe all of the centrists on this board (and there's quite a few of us) are okay with the KKK?  I mean, we're not great with it, but we must be okay with it, right?  Because that's what you fucking posted.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Here, let's summarize Obama's opinion:



    Y'all are being horseshoed.  There's no room for centrists or third parties.  Pick a side. Shit or get off the pot.  And so on...

    Spoiler alert: Both sides are not bad.  One side had proven itself to be fundamentally flawed and structurally unsound.  Traitors.
    Except for that isn't true.  Let's look at social issues.. Are you arguing that the center has moved to the right on gay marriage?  How about civil rights issues?  How about marijuana reform?  The crux of your first meme seeks to argue that the centrists are okay with some discrimination.  That bullshit opinion is not backed up by any reality of where the country has moved since the 60's.  Get your history from somewhere other than memes.  
    So what?

    We won a few battles in the 60s & 70s.  Does that mean we give up ground now?

    No, we keep pushing a progressive agenda.  Because that's what attracts people to the Democratic party.  

    A mission, a goal, a vision.  None of this try to make everyone happy all the time bullshit.  

    Health care for all.  Education for all. Housing for all.  No one goes hungry.

    Eat the rich.  Bring out the guillotines.  

    I'm fucking tired of placating to racists, bigots, misogynists, and morons.  These people continuously vote against their own self interest. 

    They can't be reasoned our bargained with.  They only understand fear, uncertainty and doubt.  
    You sound like a Jacobin.  I hope this post is a joke.  Regardless, the meme you started with is fundamentally dishonest and you agreed with my counterpoint.  Surely you do not believe all of the centrists on this board (and there's quite a few of us) are okay with the KKK?  I mean, we're not great with it, but we must be okay with it, right?  Because that's what you fucking posted.  
    Imagine a dozen Nazis are sitting at a table. You sit down and join them. Without saying a word.  Then what do you have?

    13 Nazis
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    edited November 2019
    CM189191 said:
    Imagine a dozen Nazis are sitting at a table. You sit down and join them. Without saying a word.  Then what do you have?

    13 Nazis
    I hope that wasn't an attempt to be clever.  Try a real argument using your own words and ideas, rather than parroting someone else's.  You're 2/2 on that front. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    I believe that in the 2020 presidential election, a centrist president would be far better than what we have now.  Way far better.

    But what I'd really like more than anything, would be a president who, more importantly than being affiliated with the typical left-center-right paradigm, I would like to see the following qualities in a president:

    -Intelligent
    -Well spoken
    -Diplomatic
    -Discerning
    -Sensible
    -Capable of critical thinking
    -Respectful of nature and wilderness
    -Compassionate
    -Hard working
    -Healthy and health conscious
    -Having a good sense of humor

    I have now idea where these fit on that thin little line called "left-center-right".


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    brianlux said:
    I believe that in the 2020 presidential election, a centrist president would be far better than what we have now.  Way far better.

    But what I'd really like more than anything, would be a president who, more importantly than being affiliated with the typical left-center-right paradigm, I would like to see the following qualities in a president:

    -Intelligent
    -Well spoken
    -Diplomatic
    -Discerning
    -Sensible
    -Capable of critical thinking
    -Respectful of nature and wilderness
    -Compassionate
    -Hard working
    -Healthy and health conscious
    -Having a good sense of humor

    I have now idea where these fit on that thin little line called "left-center-right".


    Can I add "law abiding" to that list? 

    I remember an eight year dream I had where there was this Kenyan Muslim who attended a radical Christian church,  but also checked those boxes.  It was glorious and beautiful. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I believe that in the 2020 presidential election, a centrist president would be far better than what we have now.  Way far better.

    But what I'd really like more than anything, would be a president who, more importantly than being affiliated with the typical left-center-right paradigm, I would like to see the following qualities in a president:

    -Intelligent
    -Well spoken
    -Diplomatic
    -Discerning
    -Sensible
    -Capable of critical thinking
    -Respectful of nature and wilderness
    -Compassionate
    -Hard working
    -Healthy and health conscious
    -Having a good sense of humor

    I have now idea where these fit on that thin little line called "left-center-right".


    Can I add "law abiding" to that list? 

    I remember an eight year dream I had where there was this Kenyan Muslim who attended a radical Christian church,  but also checked those boxes.  It was glorious and beautiful. 
    You're implying that we've had a president who is NOT law abiding?  :lol:

    Oh,  yeah.  Yes indeed! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    cincybearcat said:
    So smart... cue the idiot millennial with the “ok boomer” crap


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    I'm so glad I'm X.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Okay boomer died the moment those words left Matt Gaetz mouth.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    Gabbard on Rogan today
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    Biden’s presidential campaign mascot, The Biden Bear.

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  • brianlux
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden’s presidential campaign mascot, The Biden Bear.

    https://apple.news/A8Fa7NmZ9QomXZScg0JuGiw
    How are these people not freaking out?  If a couple of black bears were anywhere near me I would be totally freaked out! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden’s presidential campaign mascot, The Biden Bear.

    https://apple.news/A8Fa7NmZ9QomXZScg0JuGiw
    How are these people not freaking out?  If a couple of black bears were anywhere near me I would be totally freaked out! 
    Ignorance is bliss, Mr. Lux.
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  • brianlux
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Biden’s presidential campaign mascot, The Biden Bear.

    https://apple.news/A8Fa7NmZ9QomXZScg0JuGiw
    How are these people not freaking out?  If a couple of black bears were anywhere near me I would be totally freaked out! 
    Ignorance is bliss, Mr. Lux.
    That and being at one with the Biden Bear, right?  Better a bear than an Orange Buffoon!
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