PJ fans in 12 step Recovery

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    njnancy said:
    Hello to my friends in sobriety; no matter if you've just begun to form a thought,  or my fellow recovering alcoholics/addicts or those who visit to show solidarity....

    23 years sober today, by the grace of my higher power. 

    I've been struggling with PTSD lately but I'm determined to feel gratitude. I'm so thankful for this thread and for all of you......✌❤ ☕
    keep on keeping on......
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Way to go, Nancy!

    It's tough enough as it is, but add health / mental factors to the mix?

    Be proud :)
  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    njnancy said:
    Hello to my friends in sobriety; no matter if you've just begun to form a thought,  or my fellow recovering alcoholics/addicts or those who visit to show solidarity....

    23 years sober today, by the grace of my higher power. 

    I've been struggling with PTSD lately but I'm determined to feel gratitude. I'm so thankful for this thread and for all of you......✌❤ ☕
    :hug:
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,377
    Awesome, Nancy! Proud of you. You are an inspiration.
  • SD48277SD48277 Woodstock, NY Posts: 12,242
    Congratulations, Nancy! That is an awesome achievement.
    ELITIST FUK
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    way to go, nancy!
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Fucking amazing , go Nancy.
  • Total respect nancy. An inspiration
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • FifthelementFifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,905
    Congratulations Nancy.  
    "What the CANUCK happened?!? - Esquimalt Barber Shop
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    It's one of those evenings where a drink (a drink? - hah!) sounds so goddamn good.

    This morning I was telling my husband how the acupuncturist I was seeing early last year said he could smell alcohol coming out of my pores when the needles went in.  Good god - that's a fuckload of booze.

    I'm thankful I often have those sealed-the-deal moments that cement my resolve to never, ever go there again.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    today makes 10 weeks booze free for me. that’s about 9.5 weeks longer than I’d gone in the past few decades.

    actually, truth be told, there was one hiccup....I got drunk by myself one night.....at home, just me and the dogs....woke up with a shitty hangover the next day. I’m still gonna take credit for 10 weeks. the one screw up just reinforced what I’m trying to rid myself of.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    edited November 2019
    Wobbie said:
    today makes 10 weeks booze free for me. that’s about 9.5 weeks longer than I’d gone in the past few decades.

    actually, truth be told, there was one hiccup....I got drunk by myself one night.....at home, just me and the dogs....woke up with a shitty hangover the next day. I’m still gonna take credit for 10 weeks. the one screw up just reinforced what I’m trying to rid myself of.
    then it wasn't a screw up , it was a necessary lesson to learn.

    hear it often. someone in aa not far along in the steps drinks  again. gets filled with the guilt and shame etc.

    My standard reply is did you learn you are in fact an alky? no question you are? if so then do not be concerned about doing what an alcoholic does, its our natural way of being, being sober is not natural to us .

    if thats what it took to learn this incredibly valuable information about ourselves then so be it.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    I felt some guilt but I was more pissed at myself.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,586
    Anger is a gift, Wobbie.  Keep it up!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    Wobbie said:
    I felt some guilt but I was more pissed at myself.
    :kiss:
    2014: Cincinnati
    2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Wobbie said:
    I felt some guilt but I was more pissed at myself.
    That's more valuable :hug:
  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    Hey guys.

    Thank you so much for the wonderful comments & cyber hugs for my  anniversary.  Im a miracle because I have seen so many people succumb to this disease & people In the rooms & in my life gave up on me. I was a lost cause.

    I just changed one day, I had surrendered to a higher power possibility.

    WOBBIE- you are doing great. Relapse  is common. I got sober in March but drank on Nov 12 & cried the whole day. I changed my date to Nov 13. It's a personal choice, we each walk our own road. Proud of you.

    I'll be going  now,  I'm still in a dark struggle, so when I beat this monster, I'll be my old self. Take care everyone. You are all special people. 🥰❤✌
  • FifthelementFifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,905
    Hey @njnancy, you are in my thoughts.  I know you’ve been struggling.  Please feel free to DM me if you want to talk.  Please take care, and know that others are thinking of you and wishing you the best.
    "What the CANUCK happened?!? - Esquimalt Barber Shop
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    that's it. I've had it. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    that's it. I've had it. 
    explain?
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mickeyrat said:
    that's it. I've had it. 
    explain?
    done with booze. my weekly intake has exploded over the last couple months. no reason as to why. I don't drink because of depression or stress or anything. it's more out of habit and boredom. my wife and i used to party every weekend with friends or just ourselves, but then we had kids, she stopped, I didn't. well I did for a while when the kids were young. there was no time for that. but as the kids grew older I started to get bored and, as an introvert, don't go out with friends much. So my partying is confined to my own house. so my weekly ritual is having a few thursday, get blitzed friday and sometime saturdays. the main issues I have from it are:

    -the amount of money that I spend on it
    -the health factor. not just booze. but it inevitably leads to poor eating choices. bags of chips, fast food. just garbage. and my weight has ballooned out of control as a result. 
    -my wife hates it. it has taken a toll on our marriage. 
    -i don't want my kids growing up only knowing their dad getting loaded on weekends. my 13 year old has made the odd comment, and I don't like it. 
    -sometimes if I'm hung over, I'm not enjoying the day. I am wishing it over with. I can't wait to just "get through". the odd weekends where I am not hung over have felt like another world. 

    I just don't have an off switch. Never have. I just drink until it's gone, or I've gone way overboard. 

    I spoke to my GP about this some time ago. When I told him how much I drank (usually a 26 of rye per weekend) he told me, "well, that's about average, you're just doing it in two sittings, where most people do it in 7". 

    But this past weekend I blasted through a 40, a 26, a 2 litre of wine, and a few beers. that's NOT normal for me. So that's it. I can't have it getting any worse than that. 

    I don't know how I'm alive after all that. 

    I just want to go back to being a normal person that gets up at a normal hour on a saturday morning and doesn't have to "get through" the day. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    edited November 2019
    mickeyrat said:
    that's it. I've had it. 
    explain?
    done with booze. my weekly intake has exploded over the last couple months. no reason as to why. I don't drink because of depression or stress or anything. it's more out of habit and boredom. my wife and i used to party every weekend with friends or just ourselves, but then we had kids, she stopped, I didn't. well I did for a while when the kids were young. there was no time for that. but as the kids grew older I started to get bored and, as an introvert, don't go out with friends much. So my partying is confined to my own house. so my weekly ritual is having a few thursday, get blitzed friday and sometime saturdays. the main issues I have from it are:

    -the amount of money that I spend on it
    -the health factor. not just booze. but it inevitably leads to poor eating choices. bags of chips, fast food. just garbage. and my weight has ballooned out of control as a result. 
    -my wife hates it. it has taken a toll on our marriage. 
    -i don't want my kids growing up only knowing their dad getting loaded on weekends. my 13 year old has made the odd comment, and I don't like it. 
    -sometimes if I'm hung over, I'm not enjoying the day. I am wishing it over with. I can't wait to just "get through". the odd weekends where I am not hung over have felt like another world. 

    I just don't have an off switch. Never have. I just drink until it's gone, or I've gone way overboard. 

    I spoke to my GP about this some time ago. When I told him how much I drank (usually a 26 of rye per weekend) he told me, "well, that's about average, you're just doing it in two sittings, where most people do it in 7". 

    But this past weekend I blasted through a 40, a 26, a 2 litre of wine, and a few beers. that's NOT normal for me. So that's it. I can't have it getting any worse than that. 

    I don't know how I'm alive after all that. 

    I just want to go back to being a normal person that gets up at a normal hour on a saturday morning and doesn't have to "get through" the day. 
    I kinda like your GP......

    so, according to the AA book, you would classify as either a heavy drinker, able to stop or moderate with sufficient reason to do so. Or an alcoholic who is compelled to drink regardless of effort at stopping, one who may be able to stop or moderate for a time but generally returns to drinking for any or no reason at all.

    I sincerely hope its the former for you. In either case, there is support to be had. Here of course and elsewhere as well from a variety of sources, AA being one of them if an alcoholic. 


    whatever the course you take, the desired result is the same. To go to bed sober on a daily basis. One day at a time.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Great dialogue really appreciate all of you and your honesty...thank you...be well!
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    that's it. I've had it. 
    explain?
    done with booze. my weekly intake has exploded over the last couple months. no reason as to why. I don't drink because of depression or stress or anything. it's more out of habit and boredom. my wife and i used to party every weekend with friends or just ourselves, but then we had kids, she stopped, I didn't. well I did for a while when the kids were young. there was no time for that. but as the kids grew older I started to get bored and, as an introvert, don't go out with friends much. So my partying is confined to my own house. so my weekly ritual is having a few thursday, get blitzed friday and sometime saturdays. the main issues I have from it are:

    -the amount of money that I spend on it
    -the health factor. not just booze. but it inevitably leads to poor eating choices. bags of chips, fast food. just garbage. and my weight has ballooned out of control as a result. 
    -my wife hates it. it has taken a toll on our marriage. 
    -i don't want my kids growing up only knowing their dad getting loaded on weekends. my 13 year old has made the odd comment, and I don't like it. 
    -sometimes if I'm hung over, I'm not enjoying the day. I am wishing it over with. I can't wait to just "get through". the odd weekends where I am not hung over have felt like another world. 

    I just don't have an off switch. Never have. I just drink until it's gone, or I've gone way overboard. 

    I spoke to my GP about this some time ago. When I told him how much I drank (usually a 26 of rye per weekend) he told me, "well, that's about average, you're just doing it in two sittings, where most people do it in 7". 

    But this past weekend I blasted through a 40, a 26, a 2 litre of wine, and a few beers. that's NOT normal for me. So that's it. I can't have it getting any worse than that. 

    I don't know how I'm alive after all that. 

    I just want to go back to being a normal person that gets up at a normal hour on a saturday morning and doesn't have to "get through" the day. 
    I kinda like your GP......

    so, according to the AA book, you would classify as either a heavy drinker, able to stop or moderate with sufficient reason to do so. Or an alcoholic who is compelled to drink regardless of effort at stopping, one who may be able to stop or moderate for a time but generally returns to drinking for any or no reason at all.

    I sincerely hope its the former for you. In either case, there is support to be had. Here of course and elsewhere as well from a variety of sources, AA being one of them if an alcoholic. 


    whatever the course you take, the desired result is the same. To go to bed sober on a daily basis. One day at a time.
    pretty sure I'm the former. Ultimately I'd love to be able to have a glass of wine or a beer with dinner, which I often do without issue. it's just on the weekends where I "face no consequences" (like having to go to work the next day) where my switch becomes non-existent. If I have an early morning function with my kids or family or whatever on a saturday, I have no issue with not drinking. it's just when there's nothing to worry about that I do this. Which, these days, with my kids being a little older, is almost always the case. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • More  power to you.  Im still wishing from a far that i could  stop.
    I hope you can do what you need.  And i believe you are not in too deep .
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,380
    good luck, Hugh!

    Thanksgiving may or may not be a challenge for me....it’s always been my favorite boozy holiday.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Haha....every holiday was my favorite boozy holiday.  In fact, who needed the holidays for a reason to begin with? :lol:

    Challenges, whether conquering them or even trying to, have served my liberation well.

    ...but not so much my liver-ation :rofl:
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    hedonist said:
    Haha....every holiday was my favorite boozy holiday.  In fact, who needed the holidays for a reason to begin with? :lol:

    Challenges, whether conquering them or even trying to, have served my liberation well.

    ...but not so much my liver-ation :rofl:
    any day that ended in Y was sufficient......
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    Prayers please for my former wife Deanna and her husband Tim.  Deanna's mom Lecia passed this morning.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • FifthelementFifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,905
    mickeyrat said:
    Prayers please for my former wife Deanna and her husband Tim.  Deanna's mom Lecia passed this morning.
    My condolences to all who knew and loved Lecia.
    "What the CANUCK happened?!? - Esquimalt Barber Shop
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