Rage Against The Machine

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  • RATM, System and Public Enemy all sang about shit I still don't understand...

    "What does the billboard say? Come and play, forget about the movement"  Huh?
    "The gambucha mushroom people, sitting around all day.  Who can believe you, let your mother pray"  Sure...
    "Laughing while they're searching for my 98"  I think he's talking about some test is the only thing I can come up with...
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,867
    Fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy

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  • I wanna be Jackie Onassis

    I wanna wear a pair of dark sunglasses...

  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    RATM, System and Public Enemy all sang about shit I still don't understand...

    "What does the billboard say? Come and play, forget about the movement"  Huh?
    "The gambucha mushroom people, sitting around all day.  Who can believe you, let your mother pray"  Sure...
    "Laughing while they're searching for my 98"  I think he's talking about some test is the only thing I can come up with...
    Never got into SOAD, but RATM lyrics are about how corporations entice us to "play" so that we'll stick our heads in the sand and forget about all the hard work we have to do to achieve social justice (i.e., "the movement"); PE is about how the cops can't catch him in his Olds. Chuck loved his 98. Referenced it a lot. "My 98 was 87 on a record, yo. So now I go Bronco:"
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  • I wanna be Jackie Onassis

    I wanna wear a pair of dark sunglasses...

    Their worst song in my opinion. Just awful. 

    "Jackie O-Oh-Oh-Oh Please Don't Die!" 
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  • I wanna be Jackie Onassis

    I wanna wear a pair of dark sunglasses...

    Their worst song in my opinion. Just awful. 

    "Jackie O-Oh-Oh-Oh Please Don't Die!" 

    To each his own, Tire Me is one of my favorites.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited November 2019

    Funny to see SOAD brought up in here...

    Much like Rage, I absolutely loved their first two albums, and also just like Rage, I lost interest in them when their 3rd album came out.


  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458

    Funny to see SOAD brought up in here...

    Much like Rage, I absolutely loved their first two albums, and also just like Rage, I lost interest in them when their 3rd album came out.


    Steal this Album was pretty awesome too and it came from those Toxicity sessions. Mesmerize and Hypnotize had some good songs, but not as solid as Toxicity. I still remember illegally downloading Sugar and being blown away by that song when I first heard it. So damn awesome and lyrically nonsensical at the same time. Another band that I really fell in love with at the same time was Incubus. They had the equally crazy lyrical song Take Me to Your Leader.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458

    I wanna be Jackie Onassis

    I wanna wear a pair of dark sunglasses...

    Their worst song in my opinion. Just awful. 

    "Jackie O-Oh-Oh-Oh Please Don't Die!" 

    To each his own, Tire Me is one of my favorites.
    Ditto. That's like the one slow part of that whole song and while not lyrically brilliant, it's a good rhyme.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:

    Funny to see SOAD brought up in here...

    Much like Rage, I absolutely loved their first two albums, and also just like Rage, I lost interest in them when their 3rd album came out.


    Steal this Album was pretty awesome too and it came from those Toxicity sessions. Mesmerize and Hypnotize had some good songs, but not as solid as Toxicity. I still remember illegally downloading Sugar and being blown away by that song when I first heard it. So damn awesome and lyrically nonsensical at the same time. Another band that I really fell in love with at the same time was Incubus. They had the equally crazy lyrical song Take Me to Your Leader.


    I did like a lot of Steal This Album... and the album w/ BYOB (Mesmerize) had some fantastic music and vocals, but I just couldn't take it seriously based on the lyrics, and eventually lost interest.

    I gave the 4th studio album one or two listens, but that was it for me.


    Back to Rage, if they were to do a NA tour next year, I might try to see them on the local stop for nostalgia's sake, but nothing will ever be as great as when I saw them with Wu Tang in '97. And I certainly wouldn't go out of my way or pay above face value for them.  

  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    dankind said:
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    No way. The rage continued on up until the end.

    https://youtu.be/w211KOQ5BMI
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • dankind said:
    RATM, System and Public Enemy all sang about shit I still don't understand...

    "What does the billboard say? Come and play, forget about the movement"  Huh?
    "The gambucha mushroom people, sitting around all day.  Who can believe you, let your mother pray"  Sure...
    "Laughing while they're searching for my 98"  I think he's talking about some test is the only thing I can come up with...
    Never got into SOAD, but RATM lyrics are about how corporations entice us to "play" so that we'll stick our heads in the sand and forget about all the hard work we have to do to achieve social justice (i.e., "the movement"); PE is about how the cops can't catch him in his Olds. Chuck loved his 98. Referenced it a lot. "My 98 was 87 on a record, yo. So now I go Bronco:"
    Hold it, so he drove an 1987 98 oldsmobile and got rid of it for a bronco?  I always thought they were searching for a test score of 98, lol!!!!

    As for RATM how about this And if the vibe was suicide, then you would push the button
    But if you're bowin' down, then let me do the cuttin'  - First part is nuclear war?
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited November 2019
    tbergs said:
    dankind said:
    I gave up on RATM after their debut, after which they should've just officially changed their band name to The Machine. 
    No way. The rage continued on up until the end.

    https://youtu.be/w211KOQ5BMI
    I ran merchandising for a huge corporate record store in Boston, and we had Rage -- er, The Machine -- show up for an in-store, signing, the whole deal for BoLA. Meanwhile, the independent record store maybe five or six doors away got no love.

    Drink more Ovaltine.
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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,814
    goldrush said:
    goldrush said:
    vant0037 said:
    Evil Empire is a top 5 rock album of all time and best in RATM catalogue, there I said it.
    Evil Empire is definitely in the Top 4 RATM studio albums of all time, that's for sure...
    They really only had 3... But I like what you tried to do there.
    I was aiming for a polite way of saying that it’s my least favourite (including Renegades), but it’s still a great album  =)
    You rank renegades above Evil?
    Yep. Even though Bulls on Parade is one of my favourite Rage songs, I prefer Renegades as a whole
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  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 767
    the alternate arrangement of Tire Me is pretty dope

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    The Ghost of Tom Joad, best cover, ever.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    Like them all but I would have to be completely blown away for anything to top Self Titled from RATM
    (Which would be awesome.)

    Right time, right place, right amount of "fuck you", right amount of anger. 

    One of my favorite things, still, to put in my ears and go to.
    Same here. I listened beginning to end at the gym the other day. Needless to say...good workout! Can’t wait to catch a show next year. 
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,814

    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • 2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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