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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,801
    If they play 3 or more songs off FI, I doubt we’ll get more than 10 songs a night. (Maybe 11 w/ CCTrip) 

    RE: greatest hit sets / older songs, nothing would surprise me... they did bring back Sweat in recent years. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,686
    edited September 2019
    So many people are going bananas for this album.... I dunno, I can't say I really get the hype. I think it's kinda boring. It's only okay IMO. I would definitely not consider buying it. There are a ton of WAY better albums that have come out this year as far as I'm concerned. I'm a tad disappointed. I am happy for the band though - they must be pretty pleased with the general reception.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,923
    edited September 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    So many people are going bananas for this album.... I dunno, I can't say I really get the hype. I think it's kinda boring. It's only okay IMO. I would definitely not consider buying it. There are a ton of WAY better albums that have come out this year as far as I'm concerned. I'm a tad disappointed. I am happy for the band though - they must be pretty pleased with the general reception.

    You have homework!

    https://youtu.be/-23__zILRgc

    I started off thinking... I like it but the old albums are better.

    Then I watched this. When these guys go off the deep end for Pnuema...quite entertaining 


    Edit, oops I completely missed "I've  heard better this year. "

    Music is subjective. But to someone that feels the complex polyrhythms of AJs magic, Tool is the ultimate. Their worst is  elite.  I better stop it or I'll get kicked off PJs forum ;)
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    PJ_Soul said:
    So many people are going bananas for this album.... I dunno, I can't say I really get the hype. I think it's kinda boring. It's only okay IMO. I would definitely not consider buying it. There are a ton of WAY better albums that have come out this year as far as I'm concerned. I'm a tad disappointed. I am happy for the band though - they must be pretty pleased with the general reception.


    Which albums?
    Worcester1 13, Worcester2 13, Hartford 13, San Diego 13, Los Angeles1 13, Los Angeles2 13
    Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14
    Central Park 15
    Fort Lauderdale 16, Miami 16, Tampa 16, Jacksonville 16, Greenville 16, Hampton 16, Columbia 16, Lexington 16, Philly1 16, Philly2 16, NYC1 16, NYC2 16, Quebec City 16, Ottawa 16, Toronto1 16, Toronto2 16, Fenway1 16, Fenway2 16, Wrigley1 16, Wrigley2 16


  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    SmallestOceans said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    So many people are going bananas for this album.... I dunno, I can't say I really get the hype. I think it's kinda boring. It's only okay IMO. I would definitely not consider buying it. There are a ton of WAY better albums that have come out this year as far as I'm concerned. I'm a tad disappointed. I am happy for the band though - they must be pretty pleased with the general reception.


    Which albums?
    Tedeschi Trucks-Signs and Raconteurs-Help Us Stranger are two that immediately come to my mind.

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,540

  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 996
    Meh it's subjective. Old mate saying there are WAY better albums out this year just means he likes he likes those albums WAY more. I don't care if there are negative opinions of FI, it's actually nice to see what they find negative about it. I will defend them for the hype though. Name one rock album other than Chinese Democracy that has had more hype/pressure on it. Maynard actually said the crippling fear was one of the reasons it took so long. Plus it's been less than three weeks. Takes me months to digest Tool albums and I love doing so.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,801
    JT167846 said:
    Meh it's subjective. Old mate saying there are WAY better albums out this year just means he likes he likes those albums WAY more. I don't care if there are negative opinions of FI, it's actually nice to see what they find negative about it. I will defend them for the hype though. Name one rock album other than Chinese Democracy that has had more hype/pressure on it. Maynard actually said the crippling fear was one of the reasons it took so long. Plus it's been less than three weeks. Takes me months to digest Tool albums and I love doing so.
    Agreed on pretty much all points. 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    JT167846 said:
    Meh it's subjective. Old mate saying there are WAY better albums out this year just means he likes he likes those albums WAY more. I don't care if there are negative opinions of FI, it's actually nice to see what they find negative about it. I will defend them for the hype though. Name one rock album other than Chinese Democracy that has had more hype/pressure on it. Maynard actually said the crippling fear was one of the reasons it took so long. Plus it's been less than three weeks. Takes me months to digest Tool albums and I love doing so.
    Definitely living up to all the hype. It’s really everything there has ever been to love about Tool on one album. I just wish as a band that has preached evolution they showed some growth. Those albums I mentioned have the stuff the bands are known for but some new sounds as well. 
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    PJ_Soul said:
    So many people are going bananas for this album.... I dunno, I can't say I really get the hype. I think it's kinda boring. It's only okay IMO. I would definitely not consider buying it. There are a ton of WAY better albums that have come out this year as far as I'm concerned. I'm a tad disappointed. I am happy for the band though - they must be pretty pleased with the general reception.
    To me it's the best album I've heard in a long time
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,801


    Invincible is growing on me something fierce... this song is amazing.

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Merkin Baller said:


    Invincible is growing on me something fierce... this song is amazing.

    I take back what I said earlier in this thread about the last two minutes being unnecessary.
    I didn't realise they're the same lyrics as that synth part, it makes sense as it now fits to my ears and makes me love the song more.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,801
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Merkin Baller said:


    Invincible is growing on me something fierce... this song is amazing.

    I take back what I said earlier in this thread about the last two minutes being unnecessary.
    I didn't realise they're the same lyrics as that synth part, it makes sense as it now fits to my ears and makes me love the song more.


    I struggled with the synth part for a while, but I'm warming up to it...

    The bass in the last two minutes is fantastic, as are all the instruments combined around the 4:00 mark & on... it's a really dynamic song, I can't wait to see it played live.

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I love the lyrics. I like that synth part. Took me a while to love the last 2 minutes. Yes, the bass is awesome.
    Descending has great lyrics but it's the hardest song to get into. It feels like there's so much in there like with Tempest. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,411
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    I love the lyrics. I like that synth part. Took me a while to love the last 2 minutes. Yes, the bass is awesome.
    Descending has great lyrics but it's the hardest song to get into. It feels like there's so much in there like with Tempest. 
    Pnuma?  Meh Descending?  Yes please.  That is starting to grab me now.  
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Pnuema is my probably my favourite on the album.
    That and Culling Voices are phenomenal. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,801
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Pnuema is my probably my favourite on the album.
    That and Culling Voices are phenomenal. 


    The breakdown in Pneuma is fantastic, but the song as a whole has yet to REALLY grab me... same with Culling Voices. I don't dislike them, I just need more time with them (which is one of my favorite things about this band... if something doesn't click, come back to it later, odds are it will at some point)


    Descending is probably my favorite, with Invincible gaining on it.

    I really can't get enough of these 2 songs. In addition to Invincible, I'm really looking forward to hearing the full version of Descending live (I've only seen the shortened preview they were playing from 2015 right up until the debut of the song earlier this year).

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Those two songs you love took me the longest to get into.
    Pnuema grabbed me on the first listen and by the second or third listens I was so excited and moved.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,241
    Descending has finally got me, after almost 3 weeks. It’s fuckin amazing 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,686
    edited September 2019
    JT167846 said:
    Meh it's subjective. Old mate saying there are WAY better albums out this year just means he likes he likes those albums WAY more. I don't care if there are negative opinions of FI, it's actually nice to see what they find negative about it. I will defend them for the hype though. Name one rock album other than Chinese Democracy that has had more hype/pressure on it. Maynard actually said the crippling fear was one of the reasons it took so long. Plus it's been less than three weeks. Takes me months to digest Tool albums and I love doing so.
    Yes, exactly, of course it's subjective. I thought it was universally known that when someone says what they think about music it is their subjective opinion. Not to the mention the fact that I literally said "as far as I'm concerned." I sincerely don't get why people often feel the need to read what is obviously an opinion, and then make a case about how that's only an opinion and not a fact, lol. (and the haters thing... ugh, I won't even bother to comment further!)

    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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