2020 Tour Rumor Thread

1…205206208210211…505

Comments

  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    bootlegger10 said:
    Zod said:
    For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff.  They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.

    I've seen so many other bands do it.  Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them.    It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show.   While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.

    I still think we'll get a hybrid tour.  Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones.   Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing.    Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows.  In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena.   The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do.  If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums.  If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.

    I could end up being wrong.  I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour.  They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets.  Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets.   I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.



    PJNB said:
    New album tours can have some great shows. 2013/2014 had some gems. Just curious though if these guys are going to play 28-30 songs a night and 1/3 of those are from a new album how is the audience going to react at a ballpark/stadium? Could you imagine Wrigley 2013 had Future Days, My Fathers Son, Let the Records Play, Sleeping By Myself, and Yellow Moon played in place of some of those gems they got? 
    Right.   You don’t need to sell out a stadium to still get a lot more seats filled than an arena.
    But the stadium will cost more to rent. So they have to play the numbers 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • I am a patriot
    I am a patriot Posts: 485
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
  • weremin23
    weremin23 Posts: 320
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer. 
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    Now you're talking!!!!!!
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,553
    weremin23 said:
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer. 
    Why not? Metallica played here 2 years ago at the Braves stadium and Green Day is doing the same next summer. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    Sounds like something Larry David would say.  “You know, I would love to play a show and make a million dollars but ... eh...you know...the heat.”
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    weremin23 said:
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer. 
    I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    kaw753 said:
    weremin23 said:
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer. 
    I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
    Wasn’t that Alan Jackson?


    Peace,Love and Pearl Jam.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    pearljammr78 said:
    kaw753 said:
    weremin23 said:
    I am a patriot said:
    JojoRice said:
    If it ends up being a stadium tour I hope Atlanta is included. Including Athens, we've got 5 stadiums in the area to pick from. 
    They could do a Georgia residency instead of a Wrigley one!
    I’m sure they’d love coming to Georgia and playing a stadium in the summer. 
    I could be wrong, but I believe it was Abraham Lincoln who said something like, "Way down yonder on the Chattahoochee, it gets hotter than a hootchie cootchie."
    Wasn’t that Alan Jackson?


    He was quoting Lincoln
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    Zod said:
    For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff.  They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.

    I've seen so many other bands do it.  Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them.    It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show.   While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.

    I still think we'll get a hybrid tour.  Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones.   Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing.    Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows.  In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena.   The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do.  If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums.  If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.

    I could end up being wrong.  I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour.  They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets.  Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets.   I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.




    I think you are right, they will probably stick with what they know from the past. But fans state often " well there's so much more money in stadiums and festivals " and that's not necessarily true.

    Tiered pricing doesn't have to be outrageously priced like many other bands. Say $300 for the best seats and an average of $200- 250 for an arena show will bring in just about what their 125$ mlb shows do.

    They are like going to the world series. How much do those seats cost?

    Alot of us are clamoring for arena shows. The intimacy they create in an arena show is what made their live shows so exciting. This just does not translate to stadiums. The wildest memories I have of Fenway 1 are when the crowd sang along. I couldn't really see the band. Kinda depressing

    The biggest pot of revenue waiting for them is MSG. They can earn more there than any other venue in the world. The average ticket prices there and number of fans a reasonable distance away is by far the most in the world. Unless they play China. 

    Under that mix where the big cities get only stadiums, that leaves the biggest money maker on the sidelines. I would pay a big premium for an arena, not a stadium.


  • JM144705
    JM144705 Philadelphia Posts: 452
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Zod said:
    For some reason I don't see PJ doing the tiered pricing stuff.  They could, but I don't know if it's something they'd do.

    I've seen so many other bands do it.  Premium Tickets, VIP ticket packages, floating prices, so they go up and down the more interest people show in them.    It's ok if you're trying to maximize the revenue from the show.   While I'm certain PJ likes getting paid, I'm not sure they feel the need to ramp it up to that level.

    I still think we'll get a hybrid tour.  Stadiums for the bigger cities and Arena's for smaller ones.   Sort of like what Foo Fighteres were/are doing.    Some markets are huge and demand is way to high for arena shows.  In smaller cities demand is closer to an arena.   The bigger the tour, the more Arena dates they'd probably do.  If you're only going to play 7 shows, you may was well do stadiums.  If you play 25 to 30, then you probably need to mix it up.

    I could end up being wrong.  I noticed GNR book stadiums the first year or two of their reunion tour.  They sold out in big markets, but not in smaller markets.  Still they'd sell 40k seats in a 55k venue, where if it was an arena they'd only of sold 18 to 20k tickets.   I suppose playing stadiums even if they don't sell out might yield more money.




    I think you are right, they will probably stick with what they know from the past. But fans state often " well there's so much more money in stadiums and festivals " and that's not necessarily true.

    Tiered pricing doesn't have to be outrageously priced like many other bands. Say $300 for the best seats and an average of $200- 250 for an arena show will bring in just about what their 125$ mlb shows do.

    They are like going to the world series. How much do those seats cost?

    Alot of us are clamoring for arena shows. The intimacy they create in an arena show is what made their live shows so exciting. This just does not translate to stadiums. The wildest memories I have of Fenway 1 are when the crowd sang along. I couldn't really see the band. Kinda depressing

    The biggest pot of revenue waiting for them is MSG. They can earn more there than any other venue in the world. The average ticket prices there and number of fans a reasonable distance away is by far the most in the world. Unless they play China. 

    Under that mix where the big cities get only stadiums, that leaves the biggest money maker on the sidelines. I would pay a big premium for an arena, not a stadium.


    It is quite expensive to run MSG. There's a reason why most bands/companies choose to run other NY buildings over MSG. 
  • JM144705
    JM144705 Philadelphia Posts: 452
    And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    JM144705 said:
    And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
    Well, ya know, being able to see the guys without relying on the screens is a nice perk. 
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    JM144705 said:
    And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
    Well Pearl Jam isn’t going to play anything smaller than an arena (maybe a one off i.e. hob ‘03).  So arenas are definitely 100% more intimate than stadiums.  I can’t even see how this is debatable. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    mcgruff10 said:
    JM144705 said:
    And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.
    Well Pearl Jam isn’t going to play anything smaller than an arena (maybe a one off i.e. hob ‘03).  So arenas are definitely 100% more intimate than stadiums.  I can’t even see how this is debatable. 
    Exactly what I was going to say
  • Chadplam
    Chadplam Alberta Posts: 186
    demetrios said:
    If they do another stadium tour, here's hoping they they play .. 

    Olympic Stadium in Quebec
    Rogers Centre in Ontario
    Commonwealth Stadium in Alberta
    BC Place in British Columbia

    .. in Canada. 
    Rogers Place in Edmonton I think will happen before Commonwealth. Its been 8 years for Edmonton, we have the newer and way better sounding venue and the band typically goes back and forth anyways. Im totally okay with a Calgary date though. 
    2016- TOTD Seattle Night 1+2
    2018- Home Shows Night 1+2, Missoula 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,899
    I'm not sure if they play BC place?  At least in regards to 10c members, Vancouver is usually a bit light.  The 2013 show had one of the smallest GA pits on the tour (but still sold out and was an amazing show).   Still given by the light amount of 10c'ers travelling to Vancouver for a show, I'm not sure there's enough demand for a stadium gig.   Who knows though.  It's hard to tell PJ's real popularity.  They play so few shows, and so many fans travel, you just don't know what the real demand is :)
  • Chadplam
    Chadplam Alberta Posts: 186
    Zod said:
    I'm not sure if they play BC place?  At least in regards to 10c members, Vancouver is usually a bit light.  The 2013 show had one of the smallest GA pits on the tour (but still sold out and was an amazing show).   Still given by the light amount of 10c'ers travelling to Vancouver for a show, I'm not sure there's enough demand for a stadium gig.   Who knows though.  It's hard to tell PJ's real popularity.  They play so few shows, and so many fans travel, you just don't know what the real demand is :)
    thats a good point too, unless they do a Canadian tour (meaning no Seattle date) Vancouver won't have much demand with Seattle so close. Rogers Arena again....Damn Rogers owns a lot of venues in Canada
    2016- TOTD Seattle Night 1+2
    2018- Home Shows Night 1+2, Missoula 
  • SteffyLou
    SteffyLou Posts: 370
    Here are my thoughts after reading all of these posts...

    So let's say it is based around it being an election year. If that were the case and they wanted people to get registered to vote, wouldn't it make the most sense to do it at places where people perhaps are not that into politics yet? With that being said, I say it is going to be a tour around college campuses where they can try to get the "kids" to register to vote.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    edited September 2019
    JM144705 said:
    And I don't wanna quote or call out anyone because I've been reading it alot in the arena vs stadium conversation but can we stop with my the " Intimacy of an arena" stuff. Arena's are massive buildings too, I grant you smaller than a stadium but there is nothing intimate about an arena.

    Its OK.  We can civilly discuss opinions.

    A big advantage of arenas is, as we all are familiar with, they sell out side stage and rear stage for US shows.

    A baseball stadium has a huge outfield. You can fit a hockey rink from the stage to the nearest stadium seat. The turf seats are underneath the stage and any fan under 6'2" will have a good portion of their view blocked.There are no rearview seats and the side stage seats are 150 feet away.

    In an arena show in the US, they are completely surrounded by us. So many fans are right on top of the stage. IMO there is no comparison of the energy and intimacy  that setting provides.
    Post edited by Lerxst1992 on

Categories