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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,656
    Lamar Miller out for the year
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,877
    How dumb can you be? Gottlieb a weasel & 1/2

    good for Torrey Smith


  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,331
    Semi surprised by this..As a number one pick overall, will he be considered a bust?
    Absolutely a bust, people thought he was going to be the next Peyton Manning and he ended up winning 4 playoff games. 2012 was a crazy draft class for qbs when you look back. Luck, Griffin III, Tannehill, Weeden, and Osweiler were all drafted in the 1st round and all underachieved to put it lightly. Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, and Kirk Cousins were all drafted in the 3rd round or later and turned out to be the most productive and long lasting. Never forget...


    he’ll never be a bust as long as we remember ryan leaf and jamarcus russell.

    surprised the colts let him keep $25M he never played for. wouldn’t he be just fine without it?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    edited August 2019
    Shocked people are so crazy over this.  Should not be, I guess.
    Good for Luck.
    Bad for Colts fans.
    Good for internet people who love to criticize everything any person in the public eye does.

    Agree on th $25MM
    Luck should give it to one of his charitable causes.  Surprised the colts let him keep it.
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  • Hi!
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    igotid88 said:
    Lamar Miller out for the year
    That’s a major blow for Houston. I don’t know what to make of Duke Johnson, but it’s a downgrade. I think for a backup he’ll be able to hold it together. Lamar has a good year last year and I was expecting equal or better this year. Plus the 2, 3 receivers coming off injures, could be trouble keeping them healthy. 

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,656
    Hi! said:
    igotid88 said:
    Lamar Miller out for the year
    That’s a major blow for Houston. I don’t know what to make of Duke Johnson, but it’s a downgrade. I think for a backup he’ll be able to hold it together. Lamar has a good year last year and I was expecting equal or better this year. Plus the 2, 3 receivers coming off injures, could be trouble keeping them healthy. 
    With Luck gone many thought this could be the Texans division easily. Probably still is.
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  • Hi!
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    igotid88 said:
    Hi! said:
    igotid88 said:
    Lamar Miller out for the year
    That’s a major blow for Houston. I don’t know what to make of Duke Johnson, but it’s a downgrade. I think for a backup he’ll be able to hold it together. Lamar has a good year last year and I was expecting equal or better this year. Plus the 2, 3 receivers coming off injures, could be trouble keeping them healthy. 
    With Luck gone many thought this could be the Texans division easily. Probably still is.
    Yeah, that’s a safe bet. It will be interesting to see what the Jags do. 

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,269
    Those Colt fans at that game were disgusting. He does not owe anyone an explanation.  Luck should be commended for putting health over a career in the NFL, a league in which its own commissioner does not even support the players in the league...
    Yes they were:


  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited August 2019
    Fuck Troy Aikman. Fuck Doug Gottleib. 


    Let let me ask, what kind of reception do you think Luck deserved for quitting on the eve of the season? A smattering of boos for a dude that injured his shoulder snowboarding and wouldn’t learn to get rid of the ball when pressured seems fine to me. 

    Fuck Adam Schefter for needing to break the news. Not fair to anybody. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    One thing I haven't heard brought up in regards to Luck is that if he came to this decision months ago, it's likely that the Colts would have pursued Nick Foles. After all, Frank Reich was Foles' offensive coordinator in Philly. Could have been a good match. I think Luck made the right decision to retire because he wasn't all-in on football anymore. It's just too bad for Indy he came to that decision so late. They could have signed a free-agent like Foles, traded for a guy like Rosen (not advisable, but still), or try to draft a QB. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,277
    One thing I haven't heard brought up in regards to Luck is that if he came to this decision months ago, it's likely that the Colts would have pursued Nick Foles. After all, Frank Reich was Foles' offensive coordinator in Philly. Could have been a good match. I think Luck made the right decision to retire because he wasn't all-in on football anymore. It's just too bad for Indy he came to that decision so late. They could have signed a free-agent like Foles, traded for a guy like Rosen (not advisable, but still), or try to draft a QB. 
    But the calf/ankle injury is what is motivating him to retire right?  A fairly recent issue unless I'm out of the loop completely.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    One thing I haven't heard brought up in regards to Luck is that if he came to this decision months ago, it's likely that the Colts would have pursued Nick Foles. After all, Frank Reich was Foles' offensive coordinator in Philly. Could have been a good match. I think Luck made the right decision to retire because he wasn't all-in on football anymore. It's just too bad for Indy he came to that decision so late. They could have signed a free-agent like Foles, traded for a guy like Rosen (not advisable, but still), or try to draft a QB. 
    But the calf/ankle injury is what is motivating him to retire right?  A fairly recent issue unless I'm out of the loop completely.
    I think you're right that the ankle is a huge factor. He said in his press conference that the cycle of injury-rehab-injury has weighed on him mentally. So that's probably what he's talking about. He came back strong last year from an injury, and now suffered another one. That's why I'm not criticizing Luck for his timing, it's just unfortunate for the Colts. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    One thing I haven't heard brought up in regards to Luck is that if he came to this decision months ago, it's likely that the Colts would have pursued Nick Foles. After all, Frank Reich was Foles' offensive coordinator in Philly. Could have been a good match. I think Luck made the right decision to retire because he wasn't all-in on football anymore. It's just too bad for Indy he came to that decision so late. They could have signed a free-agent like Foles, traded for a guy like Rosen (not advisable, but still), or try to draft a QB. 
    I brought it up in the Eagles thread. Had they franchised him, like they were considering, they would've gotten an enormous haul. Reuniting the Super Bowl MVP with his offensive coordinator? Yeah I think would've been a pretty, pretty good fit.

    Hindsight is 20/20 of course. So if the Eagles did franchise him, it probably would've hindered them from doing the other things they did this offseason and there would've been no guarantee of this opportunity even presenting itself. Fun to think of the possibilities though. 
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    I can understand being upset as a Colts fan in this situation.  What I don't appreciate is trashing him and calling him a bust.  It has to suck going into a season where your team has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations not just for this year, but probably for the next 5 with a healthy Andrew Luck.  That still doesn't warrant the over-the-top comments and booing him off of the field.  Take out your frustration on something else.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    I can understand being upset as a Colts fan in this situation.  What I don't appreciate is trashing him and calling him a bust.  It has to suck going into a season where your team has legitimate Super Bowl aspirations not just for this year, but probably for the next 5 with a healthy Andrew Luck.  That still doesn't warrant the over-the-top comments and booing him off of the field.  Take out your frustration on something else.
    I think people are making too big of a deal out of the booing. It's not like they were throwing rocks at him. It was just booing. I don't think Luck owes the Colts fans anything. But they don't owe him anything either. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    The thing I'm getting the most kick out of Luck's retirement is all the fantasy footballers losing their shit.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited August 2019
    The thing I'm getting the most kick out of Luck's retirement is all the fantasy footballers losing their shit.
    My league's rouge idiot (every league has one) used his last two picks in our draft last night to take Gronk and Luck. This was AFTER learning of Luck's retirement and knowing full-well that Gronk's retired. 

    He's the only player in the 9-year history of our league to never make the playoffs....obviously. 
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    It really sucks rehabbing an injury.  I tore my acl and needed reconstruction/rehab and it was a long, frustrating, and painful process.  If i was a pro athlete who already netted many millions, but stuck in a cycle of serious injuries along with 24/7 speculation and criticism by everyone, along with being "encouraged" to play hurt.... i could see walking away.  Luck lost his competitive drive and desire to be in the nfl it seems, which is fine.  I applaud him for making a very tough decision.  
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,877
    Look at Durant, that calf injury turned to blown Achilles 

    the thing with Luck is, old scouting reports pre combine resurfacing questing his overall love for football