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DewieCox

Brisset blows ass. 

The Juggler

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

igotid88

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

The Juggler

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

igotid88

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

igotid88

F Me In The Brain

Kicker is an amazing job 

cutz

F Me In The Brain said:

Kicker is an amazing job 

Is being a Long Snapper better?

Halifax2TheMax

cutz said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Kicker is an amazing job 

Is being a Long Snapper better?

Ask Wob.

The Juggler

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

pjhawks

cutz said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Kicker is an amazing job 

Is being a Long Snapper better?

no, long snapper end up with neck and back problems.  they've mitigated it a little bit with the new rules so they don't hit as much.

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

The Juggler

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

Yes. This guy's argument is that Brady's greatness is directly related to Belichick's "system" which I find ridiculous as they have adjusted what they do on offense multiple times based upon their different personnel.

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

Yes. This guy's argument is that Brady's greatness is directly related to Belichick's "system" which I find ridiculous as they have adjusted what they do on offense multiple times based upon their different personnel.

well you know me...i believe Bellichick's greatness is directly related to having Tom Brady as his QB.

Halifax2TheMax

The Juggler said:

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

Yes. This guy's argument is that Brady's greatness is directly related to Belichick's "system" which I find ridiculous as they have adjusted what they do on offense multiple times based upon their different personnel.

And plays called in any given game situation. Like taking a safety to get the ball back with enough time for Brady to score a TD. Believe in your D and O. D doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. O doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. Both do their jobs, you’re a genius.
 
More importantly is Belichick’s player selection and coaching to get everything you can out of them. Their backup QB, I don’t even know his name, is going to be good. Why? Selected for his smarts and ability. Give him an O line and running game? The dynasty rolls.
 

Cliffy6745

Absolutely a system qb. Nothing more nothing less 

JimmyV

I don't post in this thread very often. Now I remember why.

pjhawks

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

Yes. This guy's argument is that Brady's greatness is directly related to Belichick's "system" which I find ridiculous as they have adjusted what they do on offense multiple times based upon their different personnel.

And plays called in any given game situation. Like taking a safety to get the ball back with enough time for Brady to score a TD. Believe in your D and O. D doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. O doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. Both do their jobs, you’re a genius.
 
More importantly is Belichick’s player selection and coaching to get everything you can out of them. Their backup QB, I don’t even know his name, is going to be good. Why? Selected for his smarts and ability. Give him an O line and running game? The dynasty rolls.
 

 haha this is gold.  you don't even know the backups name but you are already expecting the dynasty to role on with him after Brady is done.   hilarious stuff.

Halifax2TheMax

pjhawks said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

JimmyV said:

I hope they give Jacoby a legitimate shot at being the starter. He's young and may have some hiccups, but he was far from terrible in the small sample size we got here in New England. 

That was mostly Belichick. 

Former defensive corridinator, Bill Belichick helped him out, huh? 

Game plan. Same with Cassell. Jacoby's 2nd start was close for a while after he hurt his shoulder.

Oh that’s right. Because Tom Brady is a system qb, right (despite him playing for multiple offensive coordinators and multiple different kinds of offensive schemes over the years)? Anyone can succeed there. Eli Manning would have about a million passing yards and 500,000 touchdowns had he played in New England. Ha

He'd definitely have a better career w-l record.  But this is about Bill. You don't have to disagree with every post I type. If I said the earth is round. You would argue that it was flat

Well if you can explain how a life long defensive minded coach can have so much of an affect on his team's offense, I'd be willing to concede a point. But you've never done so whenever I've asked you about it. The amount of qb's who have had success in NE under him is such a small sample size that your argument is ridiculous. Belichick is not the offensive coordinator. He does not call plays. He has never groomed a quarterback, ever. 

With Brissett, he started two games. They went 1-1. He had a 61.8 completion percent. No touchdowns. No interceptions. An 83.9 qb rating. You're telling me there is some Bill Belichick magic to that performance? All NE did with him was play it safe and put him in a good position to not make big mistakes for a couple of games. Every team with half a brain tries to do this when their backup is in the game. And his percentages were similar the next season in Indy when he played 14 games. 

i am confused.  haven't you argued for years that the Pats win more because of Bellichick than Brady?  well and the running game of course. yes steven ridley over brady i think you mentioned previously (don't get your panties in a bunch i'm kidding about this part...sort of).

Yes. This guy's argument is that Brady's greatness is directly related to Belichick's "system" which I find ridiculous as they have adjusted what they do on offense multiple times based upon their different personnel.

And plays called in any given game situation. Like taking a safety to get the ball back with enough time for Brady to score a TD. Believe in your D and O. D doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. O doesn’t do it’s job, you’re an idiot. Both do their jobs, you’re a genius.
 
More importantly is Belichick’s player selection and coaching to get everything you can out of them. Their backup QB, I don’t even know his name, is going to be good. Why? Selected for his smarts and ability. Give him an O line and running game? The dynasty rolls.
 

 haha this is gold.  you don't even know the backups name but you are already expecting the dynasty to role on with him after Brady is done.   hilarious stuff.

I’ve watched a little pre-season and checked the box scores. Completion/attempts, rushing yards and TD/int ratio lead me to believe that the kid, #4, with TB12 mentoring and Belichick coaching, has a bright future in New England. It’s not just TB that makes the Patriots great, it’s the whole organization. I look forward to your whining when the patriots win Super Bowls without TB12. Tom may very well be done after 7.
 

The Juggler

Isn’t the battle between Stidham and Hoyer a pretty big storyline in New England? I mean...it’s 40+ year old Tom Brady’s back up they’re fighting for. 

The guy was drafted in the fourth round. Seems odd that a Pats super fan has no idea what his name is