2020 Tour Rumor Thread
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Damn forgot about that one. It was going to be my first PJ show too but could not get work off. Awesome show from friends that went to it.rummy said:
Don't forget about London (which happens since no official bootleg).PJNB said:
In 8 years they have done 7 shows in Canada and only visited 2 out of those 8 years. I would say they have barely been to Canada with those numbers by Pearl Jam standards.Zod said:
Not entirely true. They played Pemberton (Vancouver), Quebec City, Toronto and Ottawa. Other then the odd band that does a full blown Canadian tour that's fairly average. BC, Ontario, and QuebecLost In Ohio said:JimmyV said:I'd like to see some eastern cities they haven't played since 2003-2006 get shows, like Albany and Saratoga. They haven't been back to Montreal since 2011.
Heck, they've barely been to CANADA since 2011.
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London 2013 was my first PJ show! Far from my last though.PJNB said:
Damn forgot about that one. It was going to be my first PJ show too but could not get work off. Awesome show from friends that went to it.rummy said:
Don't forget about London (which happens since no official bootleg).PJNB said:
In 8 years they have done 7 shows in Canada and only visited 2 out of those 8 years. I would say they have barely been to Canada with those numbers by Pearl Jam standards.Zod said:
Not entirely true. They played Pemberton (Vancouver), Quebec City, Toronto and Ottawa. Other then the odd band that does a full blown Canadian tour that's fairly average. BC, Ontario, and QuebecLost In Ohio said:JimmyV said:I'd like to see some eastern cities they haven't played since 2003-2006 get shows, like Albany and Saratoga. They haven't been back to Montreal since 2011.
Heck, they've barely been to CANADA since 2011.
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That was amazing! I was in and sitting and then he started and the amount of people that were not in was crazy,but once they figured it out it was a stampede to the grass and seats.JimmyV said:Speaking of Canada, today is the ten year anniversary of my favorite Canadian show. Pearl Jam opens for Pearl Jam. What a great night!
http://www.livefootsteps.org/setlist/?show_id=816
https://youtu.be/KIC5I20a7XA
Still one of favorite shows was at the amphitheatre when they were doing there encore and fireworks were going off.0 -
PJNB said:
Population has nothing to do with it though imo since they will always have great sales with shows here. Canada is the second biggest country in the world. I am Canadian and a show in Vancouver is a 54 hour drive away from me. Is that a home show? From 2012 to 2019 I have had 1 show that was a 7hr drive from me and that was the closest.Lerxst1992 said:Lost In Ohio said:JimmyV said:I'd like to see some eastern cities they haven't played since 2003-2006 get shows, like Albany and Saratoga. They haven't been back to Montreal since 2011.
Heck, they've barely been to CANADA since 2011.
Barely? They played 5 shows in CANADA in 2016.
Extrapolating population, that's equivalent to 50 US shows in one year.
In the last 27 years...Thats happened ONLY twice, in 1998 and 2003.
So not bad CANADA, getting more shows than US, with respect to population.
Yes Canada is a great vast nation, but with PJ it's about limited access to tickets
Within a 4 hour drive of my home market we have the approximate population of Canada and Australia combined.
Although they play NYC more than other places (other than Bos & Chi) the demand for tickets here and lack of ticket availability is unrivaled by any other market.
But hey, Montreal is not that far!0 -
I was there for MMJ 2016 and found the same. Very chill but too much. No security, everyone spread out everywhere. They should definitely be a little more strict. It’s a destination spot. It’s a shame that the seating aspect is annoying.pjl44 said:
MMJ for me, too, but 2015tdawe said:
I was there for MMJ a few weeks ago and can confirm this. GA is a nightmare due to the way it's set up with the benches. If it was a lawn with the same square footage there would be plenty of room for everyone. Definitely worth going, but get an assigned seat even if it's up high - the higher you go the better the scenery, so it's a nice trade-off.pjl44 said:
The one show I went to there, the reserved section was like 1/3 of the way up. Everything in front and behind was GA.given2fly23 said:
It's very chill, but almost to a fault. There are no seats, it's just stone steps with seat numbers written on them, so by the end, everybody has funneled down. If someone pays a premium for a ticket in the front 10 rows and expects to have their own reserved space without infringement, it could get rough.pjl44 said:
I've had friends buy in the reserved section and not report any weirdness. Have you experienced something else?given2fly23 said:
That whole place is essentially GA. No seats, no security.pjl44 said:
Beautiful venue but if I'm ever back no way am I dealing with GA againpearljammr78 said:Red rocks is a bucket list venue for me. Would make the trip if PJ played there. Plus legal weed. Just like California. No withdrawal for me. Lol
There was the usual GA horseshit with early lineups and people cutting in last minute. Then we get in and people start laying out giant sheets and blankets and duct taping them to the benches to claim space for all their friends. Fuuuuuuuuuck that. Fun to go once...glad it's not my local...that shit would drive me crazy.0 -
was the "opener" on the bootleg?jefft said:
That was amazing! I was in and sitting and then he started and the amount of people that were not in was crazy,but once they figured it out it was a stampede to the grass and seats.JimmyV said:Speaking of Canada, today is the ten year anniversary of my favorite Canadian show. Pearl Jam opens for Pearl Jam. What a great night!
http://www.livefootsteps.org/setlist/?show_id=816
https://youtu.be/KIC5I20a7XA
Still one of favorite shows was at the amphitheatre when they were doing there encore and fireworks were going off.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Sadly no. It starts with Of The Girl.HughFreakingDillon said:
was the "opener" on the bootleg?jefft said:
That was amazing! I was in and sitting and then he started and the amount of people that were not in was crazy,but once they figured it out it was a stampede to the grass and seats.JimmyV said:Speaking of Canada, today is the ten year anniversary of my favorite Canadian show. Pearl Jam opens for Pearl Jam. What a great night!
http://www.livefootsteps.org/setlist/?show_id=816
https://youtu.be/KIC5I20a7XA
Still one of favorite shows was at the amphitheatre when they were doing there encore and fireworks were going off.
But there are some good YouTube videos out there.___________________________________________
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In Berlin it was all GA and i saw none of that happening.Yefa said:
Red Rocks banned tarps some time ago.on2legs said:
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAsgiven2fly23 said:
It's very chill, but almost to a fault. There are no seats, it's just stone steps with seat numbers written on them, so by the end, everybody has funneled down. If someone pays a premium for a ticket in the front 10 rows and expects to have their own reserved space without infringement, it could get rough.pjl44 said:
I've had friends buy in the reserved section and not report any weirdness. Have you experienced something else?given2fly23 said:
That whole place is essentially GA. No seats, no security.pjl44 said:
Beautiful venue but if I'm ever back no way am I dealing with GA againpearljammr78 said:Red rocks is a bucket list venue for me. Would make the trip if PJ played there. Plus legal weed. Just like California. No withdrawal for me. Lol
Well, that's good to hear they banned tarps.
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAs
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I've been to about a thousand shows over 20ish years and have never seen anything like itcutz said:
In Berlin it was all GA and i saw none of that happening.Yefa said:
Red Rocks banned tarps some time ago.on2legs said:
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAsgiven2fly23 said:
It's very chill, but almost to a fault. There are no seats, it's just stone steps with seat numbers written on them, so by the end, everybody has funneled down. If someone pays a premium for a ticket in the front 10 rows and expects to have their own reserved space without infringement, it could get rough.pjl44 said:
I've had friends buy in the reserved section and not report any weirdness. Have you experienced something else?given2fly23 said:
That whole place is essentially GA. No seats, no security.pjl44 said:
Beautiful venue but if I'm ever back no way am I dealing with GA againpearljammr78 said:Red rocks is a bucket list venue for me. Would make the trip if PJ played there. Plus legal weed. Just like California. No withdrawal for me. Lol
Well, that's good to hear they banned tarps.
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAs0 -
what the fuck is this? why is everyone with a tarp and acting like a crazy person? to save their seats?pjl44 said:
I've been to about a thousand shows over 20ish years and have never seen anything like itcutz said:
In Berlin it was all GA and i saw none of that happening.Yefa said:
Red Rocks banned tarps some time ago.on2legs said:
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAsgiven2fly23 said:
It's very chill, but almost to a fault. There are no seats, it's just stone steps with seat numbers written on them, so by the end, everybody has funneled down. If someone pays a premium for a ticket in the front 10 rows and expects to have their own reserved space without infringement, it could get rough.pjl44 said:
I've had friends buy in the reserved section and not report any weirdness. Have you experienced something else?given2fly23 said:
That whole place is essentially GA. No seats, no security.pjl44 said:
Beautiful venue but if I'm ever back no way am I dealing with GA againpearljammr78 said:Red rocks is a bucket list venue for me. Would make the trip if PJ played there. Plus legal weed. Just like California. No withdrawal for me. Lol
Well, that's good to hear they banned tarps.
https://youtu.be/SgQ-IyK4RAsYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -

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Let's hope the "plans" are not just drinks and dinner next Thursday.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Population has a lot to do with it. Cities with bigger populations are more likely to have bigger venues, allow them to reach more fans, and have an easier time selling out concerts (given 20k seat arena's or 50k+ seat stadiums), and sell more tickets. If you're only going to play X amount of shows, these things are really important when choosing the places.PJNB said:
Population has nothing to do with it though imo since they will always have great sales with shows here. Canada is the second biggest country in the world. I am Canadian and a show in Vancouver is a 54 hour drive away from me. Is that a home show? From 2012 to 2019 I have had 1 show that was a 7hr drive from me and that was the closest.
I live in Victoria. Vancouver Island has pretty much the same population as the province of New Brunswick. My particular city (if you count the larger area) has 350k people. Our best biggest indoor venue is our arena used for WHL hockey. I think if you sell the whole thing including the tickets behind the stage it's something like 6800 to 7000 tickets. I think that's fairly comparable to the Moncton Coliseum. That's enough to attract mid level bands. Bands on the way up, bands on the way down, artists that broke free for solo careers, or bands that tour too much. It's not big enough to attract bands that can sell out 20k NHL/NBA Arenas or 50k+ Stadiums. I hold no hope that PJ would ever play here. I know we're a small market. I've grown up used to this. Any big show I wanted to see I've always had to travel to Vancouver or Seattle. Vancouver is 3.5 to 4 hours away. Seattle is 5 to 6 hours away. I always have to travel. It's small market economics.
I guess I feel at this point there's a million places PJ don't play and ahandful of places they do. Most fans are traveling these days. I feel I've got it pretty good with Seattle/Vancouver being my cities in travelling proximity. Still, when you live in a smaller place, with less people, you get less shows. Its a way of life. It's the downside of not living in a megatropolis. I thought most of use had resided to this. I feel way worse for the fans that don't live in North/South America or Europe. Those fans never get PJ shows that are in travel distance.
I don't think you have it that bad. You only mentioned the 7 hour show which I'm guessing was Quebec City. If you went south it's maybe 8 hours from New Brunswick to Boston? So that's really 5 shows in travel distance in the past 3 or so years. That's way better than many of our fellow PJ fans (anyone who doesn't live in North/South America or Europe). My shows are a bit closer but I've only had 3 shows in less than a 12 hour drive to me (Pemberton 16, Seattle 2018) in the same span of time. I don't really feel slighted they don't come to Victoria.Post edited by Zod on0 -
Didn’t we take a survey about how far we’d travel and what kind of material we liked for our shirts? Maybe our answers helped determine distance (along with size, availability, etc.). I’m probly way off..0
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You all are right about Red Rocks...if PJ does play here, you'd all just better steer clear...it's so not worth it...
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Same with msg and Philly.Colorado Fan said:You all are right about Red Rocks...if PJ does play here, you'd all just better steer clear...it's so not worth it...
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Of course some have it worse. I have no major cities anywheres near me so that is part of the problem that I should have mentioned. All I am saying is it would be nice to get more shows up here. We love them and they seem to love playing here. I am just surprised we do not get more shows. I do not have it as bad as some but all I am saying is Canada is huge. We have plenty of cities that would sell out or be close to it if these guys came. Halifax, Moncton (only 10,000 so never going to happen but Magnetic Hill would get 40,000 plus I am guessing) Quebec City, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Hamilton, London, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver. Also they did not touch the east coast at all in 2013 which I found very odd.Zod said:
Population has a lot to do with it. Cities with bigger populations are more likely to have bigger venues, allow them to reach more fans, and have an easier time selling out concerts (given 20k seat arena's or 50k+ seat stadiums), and sell more tickets. If you're only going to play X amount of shows, these things are really important when choosing the places.PJNB said:
Population has nothing to do with it though imo since they will always have great sales with shows here. Canada is the second biggest country in the world. I am Canadian and a show in Vancouver is a 54 hour drive away from me. Is that a home show? From 2012 to 2019 I have had 1 show that was a 7hr drive from me and that was the closest.
I live in Victoria. Vancouver Island has pretty much the same population as the province of New Brunswick. My particular city (if you count the larger area) has 350k people. Our best biggest indoor venue is our arena used for WHL hockey. I think if you sell the whole thing including the tickets behind the stage it's something like 6800 to 7000 tickets. I think that's fairly comparable to the Moncton Coliseum. That's enough to attract mid level bands. Bands on the way up, bands on the way down, artists that broke free for solo careers, or bands that tour too much. It's not big enough to attract bands that can sell out 20k NHL/NBA Arenas or 50k+ Stadiums. I hold no hope that PJ would ever play here. I know we're a small market. I've grown up used to this. Any big show I wanted to see I've always had to travel to Vancouver or Seattle. Vancouver is 3.5 to 4 hours away. Seattle is 5 to 6 hours away. I always have to travel. It's small market economics.
I guess I feel at this point there's a million places PJ don't play and ahandful of places they do. Most fans are traveling these days. I feel I've got it pretty good with Seattle/Vancouver being my cities in travelling proximity. Still, when you live in a smaller place, with less people, you get less shows. Its a way of life. It's the downside of not living in a megatropolis. I thought most of use had resided to this. I feel way worse for the fans that don't live in North/South America or Europe. Those fans never get PJ shows that are in travel distance.
I don't think you have it that bad. You only mentioned the 7 hour show which I'm guessing was Quebec City. If you went south it's maybe 8 hours from New Brunswick to Boston? So that's really 5 shows in travel distance in the past 3 or so years. That's way better than many of our fellow PJ fans (anyone who doesn't live in North/South America or Europe). My shows are a bit closer but I've only had 3 shows in less than a 12 hour drive to me (Pemberton 16, Seattle 2018) in the same span of time. I don't really feel slighted they don't come to Victoria.
I can drive to Boston yes and I do but they only get shitty ballpark shows lately.
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I think it also entails a movie. All on new year’s day.oftenreading said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Let's hope the "plans" are not just drinks and dinner next Thursday.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I think the plans are Stone’s Labor Day weekend barbecue. Matt is flipping burgers.Halifax2TheMax said:
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