Donald Trump

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

 Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.

Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

”uncouth?” What an excuse.

Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.

Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??

Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that. 

Stupid is as a stupid does

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

 Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.

Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

”uncouth?” What an excuse.

Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.

Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??

Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that. 

Stupid is as a stupid does

I'd love for you to reply to my take that Trump is the master of emotional manipulation.  With all due respect, I think your take on his most ardent supporters is wrong.  He stokes and plays to it.  I don't know how you can argue that his supporters are focused on results when 1. We really don't have any, other than low unemployment which is a continuation and 2. they work themselves into a frenzy at political rallies.  

It's not a matter of results. It's simply a matter of fandom, which is the case with the supporters of most politicians really. It's not that different than cheering for your favorite sports players/teams. Or having a favorite musician or actor. Still not sure what Trump's appeal is though. I get it that some people are just conservative so they want him in there to appoint conservative justices, etc. That's fair enough. But for the people that are simply "fans," it's like being a fan of the Kardashians. Mindless entertainment I guess. 

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

 Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.

Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

”uncouth?” What an excuse.

Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.

Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??

Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that. 

Stupid is as a stupid does

I'd love for you to reply to my take that Trump is the master of emotional manipulation.  With all due respect, I think your take on his most ardent supporters is wrong.  He stokes and plays to it.  I don't know how you can argue that his supporters are focused on results when 1. We really don't have any, other than low unemployment which is a continuation and 2. they work themselves into a frenzy at political rallies.  

It's not a matter of results. It's simply a matter of fandom, which is the case with the supporters of most politicians really. It's not that different than cheering for your favorite sports players/teams. Or having a favorite musician or actor. Still not sure what Trump's appeal is though. I get it that some people are just conservative so they want him in there to appoint conservative justices, etc. That's fair enough. But for the people that are simply "fans," it's like being a fan of the Kardashians. Mindless entertainment I guess. 

Spot on, and I feel like you're right of center, is that correct?  I'm left of center but not far left.  I think Ryme is off base on the assessment.  

RYME said:

mrussel1 said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

 Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.

Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

”uncouth?” What an excuse.

Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.

Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??

Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that. 

Stupid is as a stupid does

I'd love for you to reply to my take that Trump is the master of emotional manipulation.  With all due respect, I think your take on his most ardent supporters is wrong.  He stokes and plays to it.  I don't know how you can argue that his supporters are focused on results when 1. We really don't have any, other than low unemployment which is a continuation and 2. they work themselves into a frenzy at political rallies.  

In every election the 2 candidates are after the swing voters right?  I vote for the conservative regardless of who it is.  Trump hasn't manipulated my mind in any way.  He was the most conservative choice at election time.
Most conservatives vote for whoever has the R next to their name at the election time. Most conservatives would have voted for Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Carly Fiorina, Dr. Ben Carson over whoever the Democrats candidate was.
Most liberals and Democrats vote for whoever has the D behind their name at election time right? For most conservatives that I know Trump was our last Choice during those primaries.
He obviously won the primaries and then that was our choice at election time regardless of whatever personal flaws he has.  So at the election time R or D is the choice.  Swing voters don't pay as much attention to R or D.
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So basically it's about winning over enough swings to get over the top.

RYME said:

mrussel1 said:

RYME said:

mrussel1 said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

RYME said:

 Yeah but  when Republicans toe the mark and walk the line,  the evidence is very clear, they lose every single time.   When politicians start backpedaling and apologizing for this that and the other thing they're toast.  Unfortunately it is a smash mouth competition
Unfortunately the strategy of being brash and cocky and ( in Donald's case) uncouth works.

Don’t you mean, “and (in Team Trump Treason’s case) racist, misogynistic, homophobic and sexist works?”

”uncouth?” What an excuse.

Lables labels labels labels, it's the easiest out.
It Inoculates you and every other leftist from linear thought.
You're thought process is all based on emotion.  You believe what ever the hell you want, you are driven by emotions not actual reality whatever you want it to be is what you believe. 
Have you ever been around ordinary people, or a bunch of iron workers, or a road crew or or any other type of blue collar hard hat lunch bucket folks????
They don't give a s*** about all those labels.  They want results.
If Donald Trump showed you his toenail clippers you would freak out man. That's how derailed you've gotten in this out rage culture.  
You think all these other politicians and presidents forget people in government,,,you think people in general throughout the ages past present and future are squeaky clean as the pure driven snow?  Tell me who is.

I get it, you’re okay with a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic and sexist asshole as POTUS because Team Trump Treason wears those labels well. Uncouth.

Same old labels different day.  Have at it my friend.
It's got nothing to do with being ok with all those lables.  Until your side does some work to understand The Why...  You are going to continue to ask yourselves why??

Same old facts, different week. The facts about Team Trump Treason that have existed as long as he’s been alive. Facts ever matter to you? Ever try to understand how Team Trump Treason has screwed over those “blue collar” types you appear to identify with and care so much about? You ever been around the “other?” You know, the minority, the immigrant, the homosexual or transgendered? You ever “been around” the sexually assaulted? You ever been around the screwed over and marginalized, sold a bill of goods, maybe a swamp? You ever been around really, really smart people? Like intelligent? And I don’t mean like “life is like a box of chocolates” intelligent. Like people who drive innovation and the future, like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk intelligent? Until your side understands facts, the significance of them and how you’re being played as a sucker, you’ll get absolutely everything you deserve. I don’t ask myself why because I know why and I’m willing to bet that. 

Stupid is as a stupid does

I'd love for you to reply to my take that Trump is the master of emotional manipulation.  With all due respect, I think your take on his most ardent supporters is wrong.  He stokes and plays to it.  I don't know how you can argue that his supporters are focused on results when 1. We really don't have any, other than low unemployment which is a continuation and 2. they work themselves into a frenzy at political rallies.  

In every election the 2 candidates are after the swing voters right?  I vote for the conservative regardless of who it is.  Trump hasn't manipulated my mind in any way.  He was the most conservative choice at election time.
Most conservatives vote for whoever has the R next to their name at the election time. Most conservatives would have voted for Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Carly Fiorina, Dr. Ben Carson over whoever the Democrats candidate was.
Most liberals and Democrats vote for whoever has the D behind their name at election time right? For most conservatives that I know Trump was our last Choice during those primaries.
He obviously won the primaries and then that was our choice at election time regardless of whatever personal flaws he has.  So at the election time R or D is the choice.  Swing voters don't pay as much attention to R or D.
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So basically it's about winning over enough swings to get over the top.

I would take substantial issue with your statement that Trump is the most conservative of the bunch.  Just look at the deficit and debt.  However, I won't argue with the rest, but it doesn't address your statement that Trump voters are about results not emotions.  You have to know that Trump doesn't bring intellectual appeal, he brings emotional appeal. 

Well I dont know how else to put it.
Fiscal conservatism went out the window long ago. It's more about big government small government taxes less taxes regulations military size etc.  The same differences liberals and conservatives have always had.

Go Beavers said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jeez, Trump up to 50% approval according to Rasmussen, ahead of where Obama was at this point in his presidency.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul19

Rasmussen is biased to favor conservatives. Actual approval is still around 43%