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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
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    PJ_Soul said:
    bbiggs said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.
    Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).
    They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 
    No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.
    Ahhh makes sense.  Sometimes after I drink a few heavy craft beers and actually think about the caloric intake, it makes me not want to drink craft beer anymore. That thought doesn’t last though. Lol
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
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    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.
    Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).
    They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 
    Very disappointing to hear this from a fellow (ex?) craft beer enthusiast! 
    Soooooo many calories in those ipa s!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
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    F Me In The Brain said:

    You hanging in Camden again?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggs
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    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    cincybearcat said:
    According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.
    Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).
    They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 
    Very disappointing to hear this from a fellow (ex?) craft beer enthusiast! 
    Soooooo many calories in those ipa s!
    I know. It sucks. I’ve been drinking less too. 
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
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    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,815
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    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Good points.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
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    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.  If I had to choose between Sweden and Afghanistan...I may pick Sweden.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
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    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I’m really not sure actually.  No one around here calls it that.  Midwest usually.  Funny, though, Texas is very much southern territory.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,815
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    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.  I’ve never actually been to NYC, but I hear it is dirty and smelly...Seattle was somewhat that way last time I visited.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
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    PJPOWER said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.
    Agreed, I can’t stand cities.  My perfect spot is Montana, Colorado or Vermont.   
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
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    I'd live in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver, cost of living aside.  I don't know if I'd do NY.  Seattle, SF, San Diego,Chicago, Denver, DC, all definite yes's, with same caveat on cost of living.  Denver is great because you have everything but the ocean.  I'm a skier, so that appeals to me (same with Tahoe area).  
  • bbiggs
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I think of Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Missouri,Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, northern FL when I think of the south. Not Texas for some reason. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.
    Agreed, I can’t stand cities.  My perfect spot is Montana, Colorado or Vermont.   
    I’m always up hiking or fishing in CO.  Love it, but it has gotten a lot busier over the years too.  Never been to Montana or Vermont, but they seem like nice places to reside.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
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    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I think of Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Missouri,Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, northern FL when I think of the south. Not Texas for some reason. 
    Agreed. Texas is south west to me along with New Mexico and Arizona. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    mcgruff10 said:
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I think of Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Missouri,Arkansas, Tennessee, Mississippi, northern FL when I think of the south. Not Texas for some reason. 
    Agreed. Texas is south west to me along with New Mexico and Arizona. 
    Yes, Southwest, not sure why I said Midwest, ha. Even have an airline named for it :)
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,657
    edited July 2019
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    PJPOWER said:
    cincybearcat said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    Only 2 choices in the entire USA? Seems weird. I guess it’s probably you just don’t know enough.

    If I had to move to Canada, I don’t know enough to know where to move and where not  to. 

    I would think that Toronto and Vancouver would top my list. The east coast area would intrigue me. Montreal area would be pretty low on the list as well as remote areas.
    I don’t think I would ever want to live “in” Seattle or NYC.  East of Seattle somewhere in the mountains definitely and maybe somewhere close to NYC with a lot fewer people.  I’ve never actually been to NYC, but I hear it is dirty and smelly...Seattle was somewhat that way last time I visited.
    I'm definitely a city mouse. I want to be directly in or within a max half hour train ride of the city. I need that easy access to what cities offer (mainly for the music venues and dining options, and just for the energy/vibe of a big city). NYC isn't dirty IMO, for a city that size. It used to be apparently, but Ghouliani cleaned it up well, I'll give him that. I was impressed when I went there. A very beautiful city IMO. Now, of course their garbage pick up system is that all the garbage goes out onto the sidewalks throughout the day, and is picked up every night. This is because there is no other option. There are few back alleys in NYC, and most of them are fenced off (with barbed wire at the top of the fences) to prevent crime from happening in them, and to keep people from sleeping in them. So yeah, at least in warm weather, you can smell the garbage ... For me though, everything else that NYC offers easily offsets that minor (to me) issue. I do make a point of warning people who are going there and have never been though. I think seeing all that garbage out on the sidewalks can be a bit of shock if you weren't aware that is how it's done.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
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    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I’m really not sure actually.  No one around here calls it that.  Midwest usually.  Funny, though, Texas is very much southern territory.
    I don't consider it "the South" personally. I think more Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Tennessee, etc... The "Bible Belt" I guess. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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