Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

Meltdown99

Canada

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Of course, maybe being home to Nickleback, Celine Dion, Avril Lavigne and that Bieber kid put us at 18.

But Rush should counter those 4...lol

Don't forget your favorite Uncle, Neil.  He is a pretty good trump card to throw.  

Yes, should not have forgotten Uncle Neil...that gets us to number, I think.

F Me In The Brain

U.S.A.

Meltdown99

Canada

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Lucky number 13 for me! Sweden is ranked lower than the US at 14.  
https://ceoworld.biz/2019/04/11/best-quality-of-life-2019/

So Sweden is the worst of the Scandinavian countries, doesn't sound that great of a country.  Sucks to suck.

Canada all the way down to 18...wtf...I have a great quality of life.  It is all about perspective, I suppose if I was homeless, I'd have a different view...lol

I think your lack of a craft beer industry brought it way down.   Who the hell could be happy drinking Molson and Labatt?

Craft beer is massive on the West Coast, and I literally don't know anyone who has drank Molson or Labatt since they they were in college.

But you guys have more than the West Coast.  Craft beer needs to be everywhere in order for you guys to move up in the ranking.  Don't be such an elitist Ms. West Coast.  

I only mentioned the West Coast, because I only know about the West Coast as far as the craft beer industry goes. I have no clue if it's all across the country, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. Where did you get the idea that craft beer isn't a huge thing in Canada? Our Molson and Labatt is like the US's Budweiser. Everyone knows it sucks - it's for trailer parks and really young drinkers.

The few cities I have been too in Canada i haven’t really seen a lot of craft beer. 

Well, your perception isn't accurate.

Montreal, Quebec City  and Sherbrooke literally had none from what I remember.  Toronto and Vancouver had a few but nothing like down here.  

There all over Ontario now...you'd have no problems today.

mcgruff10

U.S.A.

OnWis97 said:

"Where would you rather live" is not quite a response to Chaos's oft-repeated command (show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?)

In that thread, I don't know that anyone really showed that: certainly not when talking about pizza, Mexican food, beer, etc.  The tax burden replies came closer.

Hey, Iove what America has to offer: College towns, pro sports, concerts, Mexican food, craft beer, etc.  But I'm not sure any of this is really "quality of life."  I'd rather live in the USA (I voted Canada because I fear my country is on the way to authoritarianism), but I don't think we necessarily have a better quality of life.  In fact, I'm not that fond of the idea that this can really be ranked or quantified.

My personal opinion is that our our reliance on the automobile is bad for quality of life (for reasons already discussed above) and I don't think we should brag about the way we handle our health care.  But hey, our working poor can afford appliances (which bothers Fox News).

My personal answer is "I don't know."  It's also kind of "I don't care." 

I posted an article with data. 

PJ_Soul

Canada

Meltdown99 said:

I am waiting for the craft cannabis grow ops to start???

Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.

bbiggs

U.S.A.

The craft beer thread is officially alive and well again!! 

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

5. The government of Sweden controls your access to alcohol.
In the decade after the second world war, Sweden was really struggling with the problem of alcoholism. After trying several other methods of cracking down on this issue, the government decided on a policy that they called Systembolaget in 1955. This structure is the government-controlled alcohol store, and it is the only place you can purchase products that contain more than 3.5% alcohol.

Is this true?  If so - reason enough to not vote for Sweden!

It's not like they did anything in World War 2 so I wonder why the rate of alcoholism went up.  I would have thought that the alcoholic rate went up in countries that actually fought in the war.  Interesting.

Interesting take Mc "workers should not have any legal right to vacation" Gruff. But do you really take all your talking points straight from mrussel?

mrussel1

U.S.A.

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

I am waiting for the craft cannabis grow ops to start???

Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.

That's crazy.. what I have been through in Seattle, LA and Denver is not inferior to black market in the US, not by a long shot.  It is potent as hell.  Although in fairness, I am a "concentrate" kind of guy.  

tempo_n_groove

Anywhere but those 3

I lived in Barbados for a year.  Wouldn't mind going back there.

PJ_Soul

Canada

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

bbiggs

U.S.A.

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 

Meltdown99

Canada

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

I am waiting for the craft cannabis grow ops to start???

Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.

We have no legal Cannabis stores in my area...LOL...between Wynn/Ford they have really screwed things up...I still use my medicinal...my brother in law say the closest reserve say real good weed for cheaper than the government.  

Nothing wrong with the grey market...up until 6 years ago that's where mine came from, I've never had an issue...

mcgruff10

U.S.A.

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 

bbiggs

U.S.A.

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 

Very disappointing to hear this from a fellow (ex?) craft beer enthusiast! 

cincybearcat

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

5. The government of Sweden controls your access to alcohol.
In the decade after the second world war, Sweden was really struggling with the problem of alcoholism. After trying several other methods of cracking down on this issue, the government decided on a policy that they called Systembolaget in 1955. This structure is the government-controlled alcohol store, and it is the only place you can purchase products that contain more than 3.5% alcohol.

Is this true?  If so - reason enough to not vote for Sweden!

Approximately 14 million Americans—7.4 percent of the population —meet the diagnostic criteria for alcohol abuse or alcoholism (Gran et al. 1994).

Sweden (2014) = 446 000 people out of 9 747 355 people = 4.6 percent

That’s a terrible comeback. Thanks mom and dad for making all my choices for me.

PJ_Soul

Canada

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 

No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.

Spiritual_Chaos

Canada

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

5. The government of Sweden controls your access to alcohol.
In the decade after the second world war, Sweden was really struggling with the problem of alcoholism. After trying several other methods of cracking down on this issue, the government decided on a policy that they called Systembolaget in 1955. This structure is the government-controlled alcohol store, and it is the only place you can purchase products that contain more than 3.5% alcohol.

Is this true?  If so - reason enough to not vote for Sweden!

Approximately 14 million Americans—7.4 percent of the population —meet the diagnostic criteria for alcohol abuse or alcoholism (Gran et al. 1994).

Sweden (2014) = 446 000 people out of 9 747 355 people = 4.6 percent

That’s a terrible comeback. Thanks mom and dad for making all my choices for me.

It seems to help.

But keep having people dying in the street in the name of freedom and McDonalds because reasons.

mcgruff10

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

5. The government of Sweden controls your access to alcohol.
In the decade after the second world war, Sweden was really struggling with the problem of alcoholism. After trying several other methods of cracking down on this issue, the government decided on a policy that they called Systembolaget in 1955. This structure is the government-controlled alcohol store, and it is the only place you can purchase products that contain more than 3.5% alcohol.

Is this true?  If so - reason enough to not vote for Sweden!

It's not like they did anything in World War 2 so I wonder why the rate of alcoholism went up.  I would have thought that the alcoholic rate went up in countries that actually fought in the war.  Interesting.

Interesting take Mc "workers should not have any legal right to vacation" Gruff. But do you really take all your talking points straight from mrussel?

We actually FaceTime each morning and go over the day’s talking points. 

cincybearcat

U.S.A.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

5. The government of Sweden controls your access to alcohol.
In the decade after the second world war, Sweden was really struggling with the problem of alcoholism. After trying several other methods of cracking down on this issue, the government decided on a policy that they called Systembolaget in 1955. This structure is the government-controlled alcohol store, and it is the only place you can purchase products that contain more than 3.5% alcohol.

Is this true?  If so - reason enough to not vote for Sweden!

Approximately 14 million Americans—7.4 percent of the population —meet the diagnostic criteria for alcohol abuse or alcoholism (Gran et al. 1994).

Sweden (2014) = 446 000 people out of 9 747 355 people = 4.6 percent

That’s a terrible comeback. Thanks mom and dad for making all my choices for me.

It seems to help.

But keep having people dying in the street in the name of freedom and McDonalds because reasons.

Drama queen 

mrussel1

U.S.A.

PJ_Soul said:

bbiggs said:

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

According to an article I found (but can't find again) I think Canada has around 1000 craft breweries.  USA has 7000.  I think Canada was below Russia.

Which means that Canada has more craft breweries per capita than the USA. I guess Canadians really love their craft beer! (not me - unfortunately, beer doesn't make me feel too good. I might drink 1 or 2 beers a year, and they're usually Belgian).

They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  

Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!

Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.

If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 

No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.

I'm the same, but I don't feel sick, I'm just too full as you said earlier.  One thing about that though, advice I give younger people on business, is that if you're drinking at a function, craft beer is a good way to go.  You can be social but it's common to be too full to get really banged up and make an ass of yourself.  The same can't be said about mixed drinks.  They are dangerous in a work environment.