Where would you rather live the US or Sweden

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    Don't forget your favorite Uncle, Neil.  He is a pretty good trump card to throw.  
    Yes, should not have forgotten Uncle Neil...that gets us to number, I think.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,650
    U.S.A.

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    mcgruff10 said:
    Montreal, Quebec City  and Sherbrooke literally had none from what I remember.  Toronto and Vancouver had a few but nothing like down here.  
    There all over Ontario now...you'd have no problems today.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
    U.S.A.
    OnWis97 said:
    "Where would you rather live" is not quite a response to Chaos's oft-repeated command (show me one Quality of Life metric where Sweden would be "second rate" compared to the US?)

    In that thread, I don't know that anyone really showed that: certainly not when talking about pizza, Mexican food, beer, etc.  The tax burden replies came closer.

    Hey, Iove what America has to offer: College towns, pro sports, concerts, Mexican food, craft beer, etc.  But I'm not sure any of this is really "quality of life."  I'd rather live in the USA (I voted Canada because I fear my country is on the way to authoritarianism), but I don't think we necessarily have a better quality of life.  In fact, I'm not that fond of the idea that this can really be ranked or quantified.

    My personal opinion is that our our reliance on the automobile is bad for quality of life (for reasons already discussed above) and I don't think we should brag about the way we handle our health care.  But hey, our working poor can afford appliances (which bothers Fox News).

    My personal answer is "I don't know."  It's also kind of "I don't care." 



    I posted an article with data. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,245
    Canada
    I am waiting for the craft cannabis grow ops to start???
    Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,959
    U.S.A.
    The craft beer thread is officially alive and well again!! 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,114
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's not like they did anything in World War 2 so I wonder why the rate of alcoholism went up.  I would have thought that the alcoholic rate went up in countries that actually fought in the war.  Interesting.
    Interesting take Mc "workers should not have any legal right to vacation" Gruff. But do you really take all your talking points straight from mrussel?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,438
    U.S.A.
    PJ_Soul said:
    Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.
    That's crazy.. what I have been through in Seattle, LA and Denver is not inferior to black market in the US, not by a long shot.  It is potent as hell.  Although in fairness, I am a "concentrate" kind of guy.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,699
    Anywhere but those 3
    I lived in Barbados for a year.  Wouldn't mind going back there.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,245
    Canada
    mrussel1 said:
    They both have a sch'load that's for sure.  I never drink more than two IPAs.  I don't think I've ever been drunk on craft beer in my life.  Now give me some vodka, and I can tie one on.  It's the slavic in me.  
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,959
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada
    PJ_Soul said:
    Me too! My main complaint about legalization is simply that the irradiated stuff they're selling is inferior product. I'm still buying from the grey market in Vancouver only because of that.
    We have no legal Cannabis stores in my area...LOL...between Wynn/Ford they have really screwed things up...I still use my medicinal...my brother in law say the closest reserve say real good weed for cheaper than the government.  

    Nothing wrong with the grey market...up until 6 years ago that's where mine came from, I've never had an issue...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Yeah, I'm a white wine, vodka, and canadian rye whiskey person myself, and I can drink just about anybody under the table if it comes to that, haha, not that it does!
    Beer is tasty, but it's just so heavy - so many calories, and it bloats you up. At some point in my 20s I just couldn't take it at all anymore. I have no fucking clue how, before that, I would actually get drunk on beer. I guess it's just that young bodies can do a lot, lol.
    White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,959
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    mcgruff10 said:
    White wine and vodka for me.  I haven’t really been drinking too much beer lately. 
    Very disappointing to hear this from a fellow (ex?) craft beer enthusiast! 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,648
    U.S.A.
    Approximately 14 million Americans—7.4 percent of the population —meet the diagnostic criteria for alcohol abuse or alcoholism (Gran et al. 1994).

    Sweden (2014) = 446 000 people out of 9 747 355 people = 4.6 percent

    That’s a terrible comeback. Thanks mom and dad for making all my choices for me.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,245
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    bbiggs said:
    If you can’t get drunk on beer, you’re drinking the wrong beer! High ABV beers can sneak up on you in a hurry! 
    No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,114
    Canada
    That’s a terrible comeback. Thanks mom and dad for making all my choices for me.
    It seems to help.

    But keep having people dying in the street in the name of freedom and McDonalds because reasons.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
    U.S.A.
    Interesting take Mc "workers should not have any legal right to vacation" Gruff. But do you really take all your talking points straight from mrussel?
    We actually FaceTime each morning and go over the day’s talking points. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,648
    U.S.A.
    It seems to help.

    But keep having people dying in the street in the name of freedom and McDonalds because reasons.
    Drama queen 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,438
    U.S.A.
    PJ_Soul said:
    No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.
    I'm the same, but I don't feel sick, I'm just too full as you said earlier.  One thing about that though, advice I give younger people on business, is that if you're drinking at a function, craft beer is a good way to go.  You can be social but it's common to be too full to get really banged up and make an ass of yourself.  The same can't be said about mixed drinks.  They are dangerous in a work environment.  
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,959
    U.S.A.
    PJ_Soul said:
    No, what I'm saying is that I can't get drunk on beer because I can't drink more than one without feeling sick.
    Ahhh makes sense.  Sometimes after I drink a few heavy craft beers and actually think about the caloric intake, it makes me not want to drink craft beer anymore. That thought doesn’t last though. Lol
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
    U.S.A.
    bbiggs said:
    Very disappointing to hear this from a fellow (ex?) craft beer enthusiast! 
    Soooooo many calories in those ipa s!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
    U.S.A.

    You hanging in Camden again?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,959
    U.S.A.
    mcgruff10 said:
    Soooooo many calories in those ipa s!
    I know. It sucks. I’ve been drinking less too. 
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    edited July 2019
    U.S.A.
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,648
    U.S.A.
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Good points.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,245
    edited July 2019
    Canada
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    Seattle's a good place, even with the homeless problem. It's a fair bit like Vancouver, so I feel at home there. If I had to live in the USA and could choose where, my only two choices would be Seattle and NYC.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2019
    U.S.A.
    jeffbr said:
    It's hard to generalize. I'd rather live in my state, than in Sweden. But I'd rather live in Sweden than anywhere in the dirty south. So wasn't exactly sure how to answer. In my state I can get beer, wine and liquor in every grocery store, and get weed legally from my corner pot shop, so I'm all set. Couldn't do that in Sweden or the dirty south.
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.  If I had to choose between Sweden and Afghanistan...I may pick Sweden.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,826
    U.S.A.
    PJPOWER said:
    “Dirty south” over Sweden in my opinion.
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2019
    U.S.A.
    mcgruff10 said:
    Is Texas considered the south?  I say no but I m interested to hear your take.  
    I’m really not sure actually.  No one around here calls it that.  Midwest usually.  Funny, though, Texas is very much southern territory.
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