The all-purpose heavy duty Climate Chaos thread (sprinkled with hope).
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mickeyrat said:one thing I dont see mentioned much anywhere is along with the usual suspects as it relates to climate change, just why deforestation isnt included?https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/massive-forest-restoration-could-greatly-slow-global-warming/?utm_source=pocket-newtabExcellent point. Thanks for pointing that out!I remember reading in one of Bill McKibben's books about how not only does cutting trees down the carbon absorption work they do, but also the detritus from down trees and burning slash adds carbon to the atmosphere.
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a whole whack of us are going to be out at the cottage next week (including two lawyers who live to argue). after everyone is good and lubed up, I'm going to just yell "climate change is real!" and run back to my cottage.brianlux said:That's about the time you say, "Dude, I don't think you and I are smoking the same stuff." That would be weird- I'm not sure I'd quite know what to say.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
You should wear this shirt. I got $5 on it.😁HughFreakingDillon said:a whole whack of us are going to be out at the cottage next week (including two lawyers who live to argue). after everyone is good and lubed up, I'm going to just yell "climate change is real!" and run back to my cottage.
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The man likes to live dangerously, folks!HughFreakingDillon said:a whole whack of us are going to be out at the cottage next week (including two lawyers who live to argue). after everyone is good and lubed up, I'm going to just yell "climate change is real!" and run back to my cottage.
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It was pointed out that we've had several global warming threads so I renamed this one with the intent of keeping the focus on one place.I try very hard to remain optimistic that we can slow global warming so my purpose in post the following link is not to be a downer, but to encourage us to try a little harder. Last June was the hottest in recorded history. The seemingly ironic thing for many of us around my area is that we had a mild June and are having a relatively mild July thus far. But of course local weather is not the same as global climate and the facts stand- world wide, June was the hottest in recorded history and points directly at a problem we would do well to address by adjusting our thermostats at least a little, having more no-drive or ride-sharing days, take more "staycations" and fewer flights, etc. What ever little or large more we do can only help!
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brianlux said:Once again "climate change" (why are people afraid to call it global warming?) gets the short shrift again. Maybe the dems care a little more than the republicans, but obviously they don't really care all that much.Bend over... we all know the routine.
I always assumed people started calling it climate change instead of global warming because the deniers couldn’t wrap their heads around the fact that it still snows.
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My understanding is that this was a branding attempt. Global warming implies something happening that's an unexpected and undesirable phenomena, whereas climate change sounds like something within the realm of normalcy that sounds insignificant. It reads as similar but opposite to when the anti-abortion movement was reclassified as the pro-life movement.Hi! said:
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Yes, I’ve seen hints of this from different sources. I think we should change the name to: Climate Catastrophe Emergency!!benjs said:My understanding is that this was a branding attempt. Global warming implies something happening that's an unexpected and undesirable phenomena, whereas climate change sounds like something within the realm of normalcy that sounds insignificant. It reads as similar but opposite to when the anti-abortion movement was reclassified as the pro-life movement.
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I'm good with "the middle of the end", and only because to claim it's the beginning would be to remove our accountability for the mess made to-date.Hi! said:Yes, I’ve seen hints of this from different sources. I think we should the name to: Climate Catastrophe Emergency!!'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Hi, Ben, you guys hit it right on the head! Totally agree with you both.We've softened the language because we are a society steeped in denial. You can see it throughout history. Classic case of course is George Carlin's "Euphemistic Language" routine that took us from SHELL SHOCK to post traumatic stress disorder."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Hemp 101: What Is Hemp, What’s It Used for, and Why Is It Illegal?
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/hemp-101-what-is-hemp-whats-it-used-for-and-why-is-it-illegal
Hemp likely can replace a lot of the single-use plastic. The problem with Hemp is that it looks closely like its much better sister Cannabis...lol
Hemp is now legal in the US and Canada. How do you use hemp in clothes when so much of the world is closed minded to the Cannabis plant?? The world knows what needs to be done...but the world is slow to act.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Hemp LEGO Bricks Part Of Hemp Plastic Revolution
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Meltdown99 said:Hemp 101: What Is Hemp, What’s It Used for, and Why Is It Illegal?
https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/hemp-101-what-is-hemp-whats-it-used-for-and-why-is-it-illegal
Hemp likely can replace a lot of the single-use plastic. The problem with Hemp is that it looks closely like its much better sister Cannabis...lol
Hemp is now legal in the US and Canada. How do you use hemp in clothes when so much of the world is closed minded to the Cannabis plant?? The world knows what needs to be done...but the world is slow to act.Tobacco states are looking to grow hemp instead of tobacco as smoking further declines.Could restart textiles manufacturing on a small scale.Thats just one of a shit ton of uses....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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:plus_one:mickeyrat said:Tobacco states are looking to grow hemp instead of tobacco as smoking further declines.Could restart textiles manufacturing on a small scale.Thats just one of a shit ton of uses.....
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The Trump era EPA should seriously be change to the EDA: Environmental Destruction Agency. EPA to allow pesticide seen as threat to bees
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Environmental Protection Agency will allow farmers to resume broad use of a pesticide over objections from beekeepers, citing chemical industry private studies that the agency says show the product is only a lower-level threat to bees and other wildlife.
Friday’s EPA announcement makes sulfoxaflor the latest bug- and weed-killer defended by the Trump administration despite lawsuits alleging environmental or human harm. The pesticide is made by Corteva Agriscience, a spinoff created last month in the DowDuPont merger.
A federal appeals court had ordered the EPA to withdraw approval for the pesticide in 2015, ruling in a lawsuit brought by U.S. beekeeping groups that not enough was known about what it did to bees.
EPA Assistant Administrator Alexandra Dapolito Dunn said Friday that new industry studies that have not been made public show only a low level of risk to bees and other wildlife.
Dunn said EPA’s newly reset rules for use of sulfoxaflor, such as generally prohibiting spraying of fruit and nut-bearing plants in bloom, when pollinators would be attracted to the flowers, would limit harm to bees. She called it “an important and highly effective tool for growers.”
READ MORE: Are commercial honeybees making wild bees sick?
Michele Colopy, program director of the Pollinator Stewardship Council, one of the beekeeping groups that had successfully sued to block sulfoxaflor, said the EPA limits weren’t enough to protect bees and other beneficial bugs whose numbers are declining.
“We understand farmers want to have every tool in their toolbox,” when it comes to curbing insects that damage crops. “But the … pesticides are just decimating beneficial insects,” Colopy said.
An environmental group charged the EPA with sidestepping the usual public review in reapproving broader use of the pesticide.
“The Trump EPA’s reckless approval… without any public process is a terrible blow to imperiled pollinators,” said Lori Ann Burd, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s environmental health program.
Other Trump administration decisions have upheld market use of the weed-killing glyphosate, which is now the target of thousands of consumer lawsuits over alleged harm to people exposed to it, and shelved an Obama-era decision to ban the pesticide chlorpyrifos as a threat to human health.
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OMG, it's just so pathetic. The man is a public menace.PJ_Soul said: The Trump era EPA should seriously be change to the EDA: Environmental Destruction Agency. EPA to allow pesticide seen as threat to bees
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Environmental Protection Agency will allow farmers to resume broad use of a pesticide over objections from beekeepers, citing chemical industry private studies that the agency says show the product is only a lower-level threat to bees and other wildlife.
Friday’s EPA announcement makes sulfoxaflor the latest bug- and weed-killer defended by the Trump administration despite lawsuits alleging environmental or human harm. The pesticide is made by Corteva Agriscience, a spinoff created last month in the DowDuPont merger.
A federal appeals court had ordered the EPA to withdraw approval for the pesticide in 2015, ruling in a lawsuit brought by U.S. beekeeping groups that not enough was known about what it did to bees.
EPA Assistant Administrator Alexandra Dapolito Dunn said Friday that new industry studies that have not been made public show only a low level of risk to bees and other wildlife.
Dunn said EPA’s newly reset rules for use of sulfoxaflor, such as generally prohibiting spraying of fruit and nut-bearing plants in bloom, when pollinators would be attracted to the flowers, would limit harm to bees. She called it “an important and highly effective tool for growers.”
READ MORE: Are commercial honeybees making wild bees sick?
Michele Colopy, program director of the Pollinator Stewardship Council, one of the beekeeping groups that had successfully sued to block sulfoxaflor, said the EPA limits weren’t enough to protect bees and other beneficial bugs whose numbers are declining.
“We understand farmers want to have every tool in their toolbox,” when it comes to curbing insects that damage crops. “But the … pesticides are just decimating beneficial insects,” Colopy said.
An environmental group charged the EPA with sidestepping the usual public review in reapproving broader use of the pesticide.
“The Trump EPA’s reckless approval… without any public process is a terrible blow to imperiled pollinators,” said Lori Ann Burd, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s environmental health program.
Other Trump administration decisions have upheld market use of the weed-killing glyphosate, which is now the target of thousands of consumer lawsuits over alleged harm to people exposed to it, and shelved an Obama-era decision to ban the pesticide chlorpyrifos as a threat to human health.
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Canadian Supermarket Proves a Little Humor Can Go a Long Way to Help Save Ourselves From Plastic Bags
https://youtu.be/EMAOit8KYOo
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/canadian-supermarket-shames-with-funny-plastic-bags/?fbclid=IwAR2e6IDK6-L_k-wI2g8nKtVrdVd0aItDywZnPGKh4xLfsleB0WPpjYRAY_U"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
That bag promo had the opposite results and people were getting the bags as a novelty.Give Peas A Chance…0
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Better solution: stores no longer having plastic bags in the first place. Doh!Meltdown99 said:That bag promo had the opposite results and people were getting the bags as a novelty.
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Agreed 100%...brianlux said:Better solution: stores no longer having plastic bags in the first place. Doh!Give Peas A Chance…0
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