The Democratic Candidates
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And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
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That's what I thinking.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But maybe they should have had a a tighter cut off to start with. Like everyone above 5%
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Yeah I saw an interview with him the other day that I liked. He even made UBI make sense to me. I hadn't seen any mention of the circumcision thing here because when I log on, I just go to the most recent comment. So that must have been a conversation over the weekend or something.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
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C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.0 -
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I think the cut was 65,000 unique donations. If they went with a %, everyone on the left would be bellyaching about how the DNC is picking winners.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's what I thinking.Spiritual_Chaos said:
But maybe they should have had a a tighter cut off to start with. Like everyone above 5%0 -
It was.. and good for you for not reading it. It would only burn brain cells.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah I saw an interview with him the other day that I liked. He even made UBI make sense to me. I hadn't seen any mention of the circumcision thing here because when I log on, I just go to the most recent comment. So that must have been a conversation over the weekend or something.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.0 -
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Maybe you need.... a businessman/reality Tv host?Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.0 -
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Well, I have seen your little Canada debt to GDP ratio...maybe before you comment you should understand Canada, your post has us over 100%...when in reality it's around 32%...Canada is made of 12 provinces and 3 territories...each is responsible for their own debt..., see how it easy it's to play with numbers...we generally do not include their debt in with our federal government's debt.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Maybe you need.... a businessman/reality Tv host?Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
Get back to me when your insignificant country has its house in order.
By the way, maybe if more people understood the cost of serving debt they would insist on some restraint.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
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Please stay on topic. This one is for learning about the Democratic candidates and it's important...before the debates it's helpful. Thanks.Post edited by Kat onFalling down,...not staying down0 -
I agree. He's a carnival barker and a clown. But Bush* was kind of a business person. Romney definitely was. I wouldn't call myself a deficit hawk. But I do believe that you can grow deficits during recessions and then during growth, you work to back that back down. A balanced budge would be a great place to start.Meltdown99 said:
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...0 -
which we had under Clinton, surplus in fact that the "kind of business person" blew up....mrussel1 said:
I agree. He's a carnival barker and a clown. But Bush* was kind of a business person. Romney definitely was. I wouldn't call myself a deficit hawk. But I do believe that you can grow deficits during recessions and then during growth, you work to back that back down. A balanced budge would be a great place to start.Meltdown99 said:mo
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
I have no problem with a deficit in trying times, war, recessions, depressions...but in Canada, our PM raves about how great the economy is and has bee running 20 billion surpluses...in supposed good times...some say a recession is on the horizon...those deficits will balloon to well over 50 billion/year. Our last PM a supposed conservative, spent like our liberal and even worse was not good with math...mrussel1 said:
I agree. He's a carnival barker and a clown. But Bush* was kind of a business person. Romney definitely was. I wouldn't call myself a deficit hawk. But I do believe that you can grow deficits during recessions and then during growth, you work to back that back down. A balanced budge would be a great place to start.Meltdown99 said:
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...
Remember one thing about Canada, we need our government to have its finances in order...healthcare depends on it...we have no say in what services the government covers...and they do de-list services from time to time...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
And that's why I put an * asterisk next to Bush. It's what happens when you're handed a business.mickeyrat said:
which we had under Clinton, surplus in fact that the "kind of business person" blew up....mrussel1 said:
I agree. He's a carnival barker and a clown. But Bush* was kind of a business person. Romney definitely was. I wouldn't call myself a deficit hawk. But I do believe that you can grow deficits during recessions and then during growth, you work to back that back down. A balanced budge would be a great place to start.Meltdown99 said:mo
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...0 -
read a follow up that says it was leaked to get hom to wake the fuck up. they had to get it into a forum he would believe. then fox polling backed up up !!!!!mcgruff10 said:mickeyrat said:
they fired 3 people over it.....mcgruff10 said:Just scaninng CNN this morning and smiled when I read this line:
"Sources told CNN that the President has been angry for days about the internal polls leaked to the media last week that showed him losing to Democrats, including Joe Biden, in states like Michigan and Wisconsin."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/17/politics/trump-2020-kickoff-pollster-firing/index.html
reread the article. duh.
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gotchamrussel1 said:
And that's why I put an * asterisk next to Bush. It's what happens when you're handed a business.mickeyrat said:
which we had under Clinton, surplus in fact that the "kind of business person" blew up....mrussel1 said:
I agree. He's a carnival barker and a clown. But Bush* was kind of a business person. Romney definitely was. I wouldn't call myself a deficit hawk. But I do believe that you can grow deficits during recessions and then during growth, you work to back that back down. A balanced budge would be a great place to start.Meltdown99 said:mo
I'm not saying elect a businessman...and Trump is not businessman...he is more bullshit than businessman...mrussel1 said:
Yeah it's such a delicate line to straddle. There are certainly values that you learn in business that could/should be applied to gov't. But at the same time, a business operates to generate profits for its stakeholders. That's not the objective for government. There was a time when the Democrats advocated government as a way to better society and Republicans were the voice of caution. And they would work together to land somewhere in the middle. Fucking baby boomers wreck everything.Meltdown99 said:
The US does not even have the money to pay for their programs now without running deficits. Ontario ran a UBI, it was cancelled early, I believe Finlands UBI was cancelled early...paying people to do nothing has never been a good motivator...Canada does not have the money for UBI...the feds cannot pay for the programs we have in Canada without running deficits. We need fewer lawyers as politicians and someone who can add...mrussel1 said:
C'mon, you know I'm joking. He is for UBI. I'm not sure I'm down with that one either. A lot of candidates throw stuff out there for attention. If it wasn't for these two issues, no one would even know who he was. He'd be like that Marianne girl. I still don't know who she is.mickeyrat said:
And I'm sure he's FOR other things that would conceivably be good for the nation. but how incredibly sad is it THIS is what has gotten attention here.Ledbetterman10 said:
I did not know that. Pretty strange thing to be against.mrussel1 said:
Did you know Andrew Yang is against circumcision? Not really a worthy topic, but I wanted to throw it out there.Ledbetterman10 said:Here's the lineups for the first debates...Candidates for the June 26 debate: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, former HUD Secretary Julián Castro, former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Candidates for the June 27 debate: Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet; former Vice President Joe Biden; South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg; New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand; California Sen. Kamala Harris; former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper; Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders; California Rep. Eric Swalwell; writer and spiritual guru Marianne Williamson and entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
Really don't like the setup. I'd prefer all the top-polling candidates (Biden, Sanders, Harris, Warren, Buttigieg) be on stage together. I think that's how the Republicans did it in 2016. Trump and all the high-polling candidates in one debate, Santorum and all the wannabes in another.
I don't agree with deficits. In Ontario, we spend a billion 13 billion a year just to service the debt, federally it's over 30 billion...just servicing the debt and spending they do not have...it is bullshit...
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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