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The Democratic Candidates

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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After this weekend I kept thinking...for the love of god please don’t nominate Bernie Sanders.....

    I really hope someone catches lightning in a bottle for the D’s...need a great candidate that help end our long national nightmare.
    Cincy did you like Obama or W?
    and agree on Sanders, dude needs to retire.  
    I voted for W. 2x. Second time I wasn’t hesitant and going back I really should have just voted 3rd party or something. I liked many of the ideas but 9/11 through a curveball and I don’t think W ever got to some of the things I was hoping for. 

    I voted for Obama 1x. Did I like him? I think he is an intelligence honest person. A good person. I liked some of what he did. He started to turn me off when he was blaming rich people for stuff and including families that make a couple hundred thousand a year and lumping them in with the billionaires. If Obama was in the group running this time, he’d be at the top of my list. Well, I’d have to compare him and Amy and Pete real hard to see.
    Thanks for the insight Cincy!  So you are pretty much in the middle like me.  

    lol middle.

    Voting against Obama 1x and for Bush 2x especially in 2004 is in no way shape or form middle 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After this weekend I kept thinking...for the love of god please don’t nominate Bernie Sanders.....

    I really hope someone catches lightning in a bottle for the D’s...need a great candidate that help end our long national nightmare.
    Cincy did you like Obama or W?
    and agree on Sanders, dude needs to retire.  
    I voted for W. 2x. Second time I wasn’t hesitant and going back I really should have just voted 3rd party or something. I liked many of the ideas but 9/11 through a curveball and I don’t think W ever got to some of the things I was hoping for. 

    I voted for Obama 1x. Did I like him? I think he is an intelligence honest person. A good person. I liked some of what he did. He started to turn me off when he was blaming rich people for stuff and including families that make a couple hundred thousand a year and lumping them in with the billionaires. If Obama was in the group running this time, he’d be at the top of my list. Well, I’d have to compare him and Amy and Pete real hard to see.
    Thanks for the insight Cincy!  So you are pretty much in the middle like me.  

    lol middle.

    Voting against Obama 1x and for Bush 2x especially in 2004 is in no way shape or form middle 
    Cause there are only presidential elections hahahaha

    I would say my turn to the middle started to happen just before 2004....and really took hold in 2006. Now I’m not sure you’d call me middle since other than local candidate here or there I’ve only voted Democrat since 2006 except for Mitt for president once.
    But whatever, I don’t really care what you call it. 

    Who'd you vote for?

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    Let s go Biden!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    hippiemom = goodness
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    That’s good
    hippiemom = goodness
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,018
    edited August 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    I think he came off good in Cuomos interview also. 

    And when he is being attacked in the debates like last time (saw a montage of just the attacks) you feel for him. It's like watching someone who is innocent being harassed in an interrogation room by the "bad cop". If you have ever watched a scandinavian noir.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    After this weekend I kept thinking...for the love of god please don’t nominate Bernie Sanders.....

    I really hope someone catches lightning in a bottle for the D’s...need a great candidate that help end our long national nightmare.
    Cincy did you like Obama or W?
    and agree on Sanders, dude needs to retire.  
    I voted for W. 2x. Second time I wasn’t hesitant and going back I really should have just voted 3rd party or something. I liked many of the ideas but 9/11 through a curveball and I don’t think W ever got to some of the things I was hoping for. 

    I voted for Obama 1x. Did I like him? I think he is an intelligence honest person. A good person. I liked some of what he did. He started to turn me off when he was blaming rich people for stuff and including families that make a couple hundred thousand a year and lumping them in with the billionaires. If Obama was in the group running this time, he’d be at the top of my list. Well, I’d have to compare him and Amy and Pete real hard to see.
    Thanks for the insight Cincy!  So you are pretty much in the middle like me.  

    lol middle.

    Voting against Obama 1x and for Bush 2x especially in 2004 is in no way shape or form middle 
    Cause there are only presidential elections hahahaha

    I would say my turn to the middle started to happen just before 2004....and really took hold in 2006. Now I’m not sure you’d call me middle since other than local candidate here or there I’ve only voted Democrat since 2006 except for Mitt for president once.
    But whatever, I don’t really care what you call it. 

    Who'd you vote for?


    I voted for Perot twice then Nader in 2000 (Because Eddie told me to on the Binaural tour!)

    Then I got REALLY pissed off about the Iraq war and voted for my first democrat for president  Kerry. Then Obama twice. 

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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    I think he came off good in Cuomos interview also. 

    And when he is being attacked in the debates like last time (saw a montage of just the attacks) you feel for him. It's like watching someone who is innocent being harassed in an interrogation room by the "bad cop". If you have ever watched a scandinavian noir.



    Even though Joe got punched often in the last debate, polls say he did ok

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/poll-elizabeth-warren-wins-second-debate-1448607
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,018
    edited August 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    I think he came off good in Cuomos interview also. 

    And when he is being attacked in the debates like last time (saw a montage of just the attacks) you feel for him. It's like watching someone who is innocent being harassed in an interrogation room by the "bad cop". If you have ever watched a scandinavian noir.



    Even though Joe got punched often in the last debate, polls say he did ok

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/poll-elizabeth-warren-wins-second-debate-1448607
    Yep. Affirming my point. No one wants to see an old man being harassed like that. No one wants to see Obamas BFF being put down and looking sad. It made me, and I bet a lot of people just uncomfortable.

    I don't think death of a thousand knifings or groupkicking him ASAP Rocky-style is gonna work with Biden. 

    They need instead to steal his thunder. And break through and make people see their vision as better.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,116
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    I think he came off good in Cuomos interview also. 

    And when he is being attacked in the debates like last time (saw a montage of just the attacks) you feel for him. It's like watching someone who is innocent being harassed in an interrogation room by the "bad cop". If you have ever watched a scandinavian noir.



    Even though Joe got punched often in the last debate, polls say he did ok

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/poll-elizabeth-warren-wins-second-debate-1448607
    Yep. Affirming my point. No one wants to see an old man being harassed like that. No one wants to see Obamas BFF being put down and looking sad. It made me, and I bet a lot of people just uncomfortable.

    I don't think death of a thousand knifings or groupkicking him ASAP Rocky-style is gonna work with Biden. 

    They need instead to steal his thunder. And break through and make people see their vision as better.

    Bernie or Liz lose to trump. The US is not Europe.  Voters are not ready to accept govt controlled healthcare, unfortunately.  Whether or not it "polls well."

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,018
    edited August 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    If you haven’t seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Sleepy Joe tonight, I highly recommend it and if he’s the party’s nominee and you pull the lever for Team Trump Treason, you need your head examined.
    How did he do 
    He was extremely human.
    Was he creepy or seem like he wanted to rest his eyes? Maybe this was his wake up call
    Thoughtful, intelligent, articulate, experienced and human.
    I think he came off good in Cuomos interview also. 

    And when he is being attacked in the debates like last time (saw a montage of just the attacks) you feel for him. It's like watching someone who is innocent being harassed in an interrogation room by the "bad cop". If you have ever watched a scandinavian noir.



    Even though Joe got punched often in the last debate, polls say he did ok

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/06/poll-elizabeth-warren-wins-second-debate-1448607
    Yep. Affirming my point. No one wants to see an old man being harassed like that. No one wants to see Obamas BFF being put down and looking sad. It made me, and I bet a lot of people just uncomfortable.

    I don't think death of a thousand knifings or groupkicking him ASAP Rocky-style is gonna work with Biden. 

    They need instead to steal his thunder. And break through and make people see their vision as better.

    Bernie or Liz lose to trump. The US is not Europe.  Voters are not ready to accept govt controlled healthcare, unfortunately.  Whether or not it "polls well."

    My post did not have anything to do with chances against trump though. But about strategies if one would want to try and pass Biden in the polls.

    And even if I think change can come more at once than this moderate idea of a wave building before it breaks, the thing about the US not being Europe, is what will make these type of memes being the truth for many, many New Years ahead (unfortunately):




    To use a term from Turok 2: Seeds of Evil - maybe one day a "leap of faith" will be made.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Bernie will be on Joe Rogans podcast:





    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,018
    edited August 2019
    https://youtu.be/2O-iLk1G_ng

    Your favorite moderate @cincybearcat

    EDIT: Starts off the bat with comparing how Europe countries make things better. Obviously hard for some americans to listen to and take it.

    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    hippiemom = goodness
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    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    Maybe if you post some more stupid memes or about more stupid movies I’ll learn something. 
    hippiemom = goodness
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    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    Maybe if you post some more stupid memes or about more stupid movies I’ll learn something. 
    I doubt it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,018
    edited August 2019
    Why the hell are poltiical/lobbyist ads allowed during the debates?

    That is crazy.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    Maybe if you post some more stupid memes or about more stupid movies I’ll learn something. 
    I doubt it.
     Well I’m certain you’ll post some stupid memes, but you are right. No one learns anything from them.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    Maybe if you post some more stupid memes or about more stupid movies I’ll learn something. 
    I doubt it.
     Well I’m certain you’ll post some stupid memes, but you are right. No one learns anything from them.
    Some people are just really good at making friends.  
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    I’m not listening to that bullshit. Why ya tag me?
    You need some perspectives.
    Maybe if you post some more stupid memes or about more stupid movies I’ll learn something. 
    I doubt it.
     Well I’m certain you’ll post some stupid memes, but you are right. No one learns anything from them.
    Sounds good.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,798
    wow, he acrtually has an inside voice.
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    mattsl1983mattsl1983 Posts: 711
    If the Dems were smart they would play more moderate.  The Sanders and Warrens are way to far left to beat trump.  Examine what they are going against.  A strong economy.  Strong employment.  What they are catering to is tweets.  Remember in 2016 when Hillary was going to win by a landslide and that all the polls pointed to it?  Yup, they forgot about all the people that don’t twitter, don’t use social media.  Do we really think most Americans are for all these debt forgiveness of student loans, decriminalizing the borders, free healthcare to illegals, mandatory healthcare for all?  Taxing the middle to pay for this?  Let’s be real, trump is an asshole.  He’s an idiot.  But so far the dems are fighting the I’ll be more of an idiot as you game.
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    mickeyrat said:
    wow, he acrtually has an inside voice.
    Haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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