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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Then if the Thai soccer team does not like it, then stop them...
    What does that even mean?
    Don't let them score 13 on you...pretty damn sure you know what was meant...
    No, since it doesn’t relate to what I was saying. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856

    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Then if the Thai soccer team does not like it, then stop them...
    What does that even mean?

    It means play defense, and don't let the other team score 13 goals.  

    Sure, fine; doesn’t relate to what I said, which was why it didn’t make sense. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Well, since you nor anyone else has said it, what the outrage is about is that the US women's team were celebrating big-time well into their route of the Thai team.  That's called poor sportsmanship and they should be called on it.  Is it cause for outrage?  I don't think so but then I have nothing invested in women's soccer or any other sport for that matter.  So for those affected by this, maybe outrage is to be expected.  But for everyone else, I doubt it.

    Wow, sometimes it sure does take a while to get to the real issues around here, lol.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    edited June 2019
    brianlux said:
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Well, since you nor anyone else has said it, what the outrage is about is that the US women's team were celebrating big-time well into their route of the Thai team.  That's called poor sportsmanship and they should be called on it.  Is it cause for outrage?  I don't think so but then I have nothing invested in women's soccer or any other sport for that matter.  So for those affected by this, maybe outrage is to be expected.  But for everyone else, I doubt it.

    Wow, sometimes it sure does take a while to get to the real issues around here, lol.
    I knew what she was referencing, but it's a tired argument.
    The Thai women were obviously most affected by this but guess what? They didn't bitch about it. In fact, the Thai goalie later tweeted Carli Lloyd (a veteran USWNT player) and thanked her for her words of encouragement on the field after the game. Primarily it was people who apparently believe this should be treated like some sort of recreational youth game where one must never talk about winning or losing, and everyone gets pats on the back for doing their best. But this is the most prestigious and high level tournament available to professional women soccer players who are representing their nations. The US women were thrilled by the goals for various reasons. For some it was their first WC goal. For others it was setting personal records. For the team there were both team and WWC records set along the way. Those were of course celebrated. I congratulate the USWNT for a job well done. They had objectives and a game plan and they executed that plan flawlessly and accomplished what they set out to do. Naturally, they were pleased about their performance and expressed that joy and exuberance. Two thumbs up from me. And two thumbs down for the outrage that caused a needless and unwarranted distraction.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited June 2019
    ^^ Right on.
    I've noticed that this issue only really ever comes up in women's sports btw. It's not actually an uncommon occurrence in sports (I specifically remember a few instances in Olympic women's hockey and soccer), but I can't think of a time when it was something that came up with men's teams (excluding the restrictions put on NFL players and their TD celebrations), and it's not like men don't celebrate the same way.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:
    ^^ Right on.
    I've noticed that this issue only really ever comes up in women's sports btw. It's not actually an uncommon occurrence in sports (I specifically remember a few instances in Olympic women's hockey and soccer), but I can't think of a time when it was something that came up with men's teams (excluding the restrictions put on NFL players and their TD celebrations), and it's not like men don't celebrate the same way.
    I mentioned that in the AET thread I referenced earlier, and apparently insulted a poster who thought I was accusing him of gender bias, but I think there's something to what you're saying. We love big strong male athletes "fronting" or being bad ass, but heaven forbid when women athletes act with confidence and power.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,877
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    RYME said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I didn't mean you're an anti-bee force. I wasn't talking about you at all when I said that - of course I know you're not anti-bee dude. And "people like you" would be "people who are being convinced that it's the honey bee industry." That is what I thought you were very wrong about, and you literally mentioned maybe being wrong, so I said I thought you are. Seriously Brian. Just ask me when you have a reaction like that, instead of essentially attacking me for things I didn't even mean. I don't understand why you keep doing this, lol.

    Nice backpedaling.
    Oh FFS. That isn't backpedaling. That is me clarifying what I actually was saying. Backpedaling is literally lying. Don't call me a liar. I was explaining to Brian exactly what I meant, since he misunderstood. And obviously I wasn't clear enough. So why did you see fit to drop in and accuse me of not being honest? Just to be some kind of snotty instigator?
    I just don’t think you see how you come off sometimes. Even in your response.

    1) Brian you are very wrong
    2) Brian it’s your fault how you read my message

    And I’m honestly just trying to be helpful here, but somehow I doubt you will think that. 
    I bet most people have had enough of Cincy's lessons on how to post properly.

    Yeah I didn’t think so. I know sometimes my posts are coming across as I mean them. I admit to that and do so when it occurs. I was just telling you how I read that and see how Brian interpreted it. 


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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,877
    brianlux said:
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Well, since you nor anyone else has said it, what the outrage is about is that the US women's team were celebrating big-time well into their route of the Thai team.  That's called poor sportsmanship and they should be called on it.  Is it cause for outrage?  I don't think so but then I have nothing invested in women's soccer or any other sport for that matter.  So for those affected by this, maybe outrage is to be expected.  But for everyone else, I doubt it.

    Wow, sometimes it sure does take a while to get to the real issues around here, lol.
    It’s such a stupid thing to be outraged for. There are only 3 appropriate feelings:

    1) Joy - if you support USWNT
    2) embarrassment - I think you know who you support
    3) who give a fuck, it’s soccer ;)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    RYME said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I didn't mean you're an anti-bee force. I wasn't talking about you at all when I said that - of course I know you're not anti-bee dude. And "people like you" would be "people who are being convinced that it's the honey bee industry." That is what I thought you were very wrong about, and you literally mentioned maybe being wrong, so I said I thought you are. Seriously Brian. Just ask me when you have a reaction like that, instead of essentially attacking me for things I didn't even mean. I don't understand why you keep doing this, lol.

    Nice backpedaling.
    Oh FFS. That isn't backpedaling. That is me clarifying what I actually was saying. Backpedaling is literally lying. Don't call me a liar. I was explaining to Brian exactly what I meant, since he misunderstood. And obviously I wasn't clear enough. So why did you see fit to drop in and accuse me of not being honest? Just to be some kind of snotty instigator?
    I just don’t think you see how you come off sometimes. Even in your response.

    1) Brian you are very wrong
    2) Brian it’s your fault how you read my message

    And I’m honestly just trying to be helpful here, but somehow I doubt you will think that. 
    I bet most people have had enough of Cincy's lessons on how to post properly.

    Yeah I didn’t think so. I know sometimes my posts are coming across as I mean them. I admit to that and do so when it occurs. I was just telling you how I read that and see how Brian interpreted it. 


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,588
    brianlux said:
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Well, since you nor anyone else has said it, what the outrage is about is that the US women's team were celebrating big-time well into their route of the Thai team.  That's called poor sportsmanship and they should be called on it.  Is it cause for outrage?  I don't think so but then I have nothing invested in women's soccer or any other sport for that matter.  So for those affected by this, maybe outrage is to be expected.  But for everyone else, I doubt it.

    Wow, sometimes it sure does take a while to get to the real issues around here, lol.
    I don't know why you even bothered...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    brianlux said:
    People are outraged at the US Womens National team outscoring Thailand 13 to nil...
    https://www.today.com/news/us-team-criticized-celebrating-during-women-s-world-cup-win-t156130

    No, they aren't outraged by the outscoring.
    Well, since you nor anyone else has said it, what the outrage is about is that the US women's team were celebrating big-time well into their route of the Thai team.  That's called poor sportsmanship and they should be called on it.  Is it cause for outrage?  I don't think so but then I have nothing invested in women's soccer or any other sport for that matter.  So for those affected by this, maybe outrage is to be expected.  But for everyone else, I doubt it.

    Wow, sometimes it sure does take a while to get to the real issues around here, lol.
    I don't know why you even bothered...
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  • Hi!
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    This is fucking creepy. I wonder if he has any good Trump stories. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,624
    Hi! said:
    This is fucking creepy. I wonder if he has any good Trump stories. 
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Hi! said:
    This is fucking creepy. I wonder if he has any good Trump stories. 
    Residency at the WH, yo! KimK and rehab, yo! CP5 and OJ leading the way, yo!
    I could definitely see Trump appointing him to lead the minority outreach part of his campaign. Him and Kanye could travel around together.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    "I've got a little gettin' even to do" huh?  Gonna finish some unfinished business, eh, OJ?  Lovely.  :minus_one:
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    stabby and slicy will not be on Twitter long once people start spamming him...he'll exit.  He is a POS...
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,588
    stabby and slicy will not be on Twitter long once people start spamming him...he'll exit.  He is a POS...
    With him saying things as dumb as "I got some gettin even to do" I seriously think he was innocent.

    No way he is that smart to pull off the double murder, no way...
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    stabby and slicy will not be on Twitter long once people start spamming him...he'll exit.  He is a POS...
    With him saying things as dumb as "I got some gettin even to do" I seriously think he was innocent.

    No way he is that smart to pull off the double murder, no way...
    Are you serious?  I have met a few people who believed he was innocent...never took them seriously either.  It does not take brains to be a murderer...just a corrupt jury to set him free...
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,001
    edited June 2019
    stabby and slicy will not be on Twitter long once people start spamming him...he'll exit.  He is a POS...
    With him saying things as dumb as "I got some gettin even to do" I seriously think he was innocent.

    No way he is that smart to pull off the double murder, no way...
    Are you serious?  I have met a few people who believed he was innocent...never took them seriously either.  It does not take brains to be a murderer...just a corrupt jury to set him free...
    Well a biased jury was part of the problem, but his attorney, Barry Scheck, did a fantastic job poking holes through all the forensic evidence. Scheck was ahead of the curve on DNA testing and the jury, and certainly the LAPD, were clueless on it. 

    To Scheck's credit though, he hasn't just used his DNA expertise to help murderers get off free. He founded the Innocence Project and helped get over 300 wrongful convictions overturned. 
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