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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    I'm just gonna say this mrussel1 is one of the best posters on here.  Not sure why anyone would question is honesty just because he is quite satisfied with the US Post Secondary System...
    Thank you first. But second I wouldn't say I'm satisfied.  Through a combination of gov't pull back, university over investments in amenities and poor choices by students, college seems less affordable than it should be.  We need to get back to the equilibrium we had prior to the turn of the century.  I went to a state school and it was $35 an undergrad credit and $65 a grad credit, that was in 92 when I started.  This was most affordable.  US universities do offer egalitarian opportunities generally speaking, but the cost needs to come back inline with inflation.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,601
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
    was in a halfway house for drunks snd druggies working a temp service. was contracted to tear down floor seats snd clean up. was able to sneak out and grab a decent seat. saw all but maybe 3 songs?

    used to have some memorabilia from the stage.  A few picks, blown amp center cone, this little notebook of Eds dropped center stage. in it he had the title for tremor christ with no lyrics yet.

    this other page had talking points. like somebody impersonated jeff at a previous show and scammed people out of pot(so he said) asked the crowd not to give "jeff" any pot. talked about that dr that was murdered the week or so before.

    and finally there was an unused line...something like,
    "andy said 15, well I been here an hour...."

    little doodle on the front.

    show was great AND I got paid to see it!!!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    It’s about electability. Biden is electable, Bernie is not. And how bad could Biden be  following Team Trump Treason? 
     Dems want to win and Biden will attract Weld repubs.
     
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  • mickeyrat
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    It’s about electability. Biden is electable, Bernie is not. And how bad could Biden be  following Team Trump Treason? 
     Dems want to win and Biden will attract Weld repubs.
     
    well I hope Weld can mount a credible primary campaign. see what happens from there.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I think they have Biden in a bunker somewhere doing debate prep. I’m nervous about Biden. I watched the Biden and Ryan debate the other day and it was even better than I remember, lol. I was laughing so hard.Biden totally dominated, but Ryan was a total pushover. I think these debates are gonna be so fun. I can’t wait for the brackets to come out, lol

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Hi! said:
    I think they have Biden in a bunker somewhere doing debate prep. I’m nervous about Biden. I watched the Biden and Ryan debate the other day and it was even better than I remember, lol. I was laughing so hard.Biden totally dominated, but Ryan was a total pushover. I think these debates are gonna be so fun. I can’t wait for the brackets to come out, lol
    Biden is an excellent debater.  He's very good at drawing in personalized stories, naming people by name, talking about a street he's walking down.  It's very effective.  He smoked Ryan.  I hope he still has the touch.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
    was in a halfway house for drunks snd druggies working a temp service. was contracted to tear down floor seats snd clean up. was able to sneak out and grab a decent seat. saw all but maybe 3 songs?

    used to have some memorabilia from the stage.  A few picks, blown amp center cone, this little notebook of Eds dropped center stage. in it he had the title for tremor christ with no lyrics yet.

    this other page had talking points. like somebody impersonated jeff at a previous show and scammed people out of pot(so he said) asked the crowd not to give "jeff" any pot. talked about that dr that was murdered the week or so before.

    and finally there was an unused line...something like,
    "andy said 15, well I been here an hour...."

    little doodle on the front.

    show was great AND I got paid to see it!!!
    Did you lose those things?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,601
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
    was in a halfway house for drunks snd druggies working a temp service. was contracted to tear down floor seats snd clean up. was able to sneak out and grab a decent seat. saw all but maybe 3 songs?

    used to have some memorabilia from the stage.  A few picks, blown amp center cone, this little notebook of Eds dropped center stage. in it he had the title for tremor christ with no lyrics yet.

    this other page had talking points. like somebody impersonated jeff at a previous show and scammed people out of pot(so he said) asked the crowd not to give "jeff" any pot. talked about that dr that was murdered the week or so before.

    and finally there was an unused line...something like,
    "andy said 15, well I been here an hour...."

    little doodle on the front.

    show was great AND I got paid to see it!!!
    Did you lose those things?
    yeah, active drunks and addicts arent very responsible.

    13 yrs later, am living a much better life....
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
    was in a halfway house for drunks snd druggies working a temp service. was contracted to tear down floor seats snd clean up. was able to sneak out and grab a decent seat. saw all but maybe 3 songs?

    used to have some memorabilia from the stage.  A few picks, blown amp center cone, this little notebook of Eds dropped center stage. in it he had the title for tremor christ with no lyrics yet.

    this other page had talking points. like somebody impersonated jeff at a previous show and scammed people out of pot(so he said) asked the crowd not to give "jeff" any pot. talked about that dr that was murdered the week or so before.

    and finally there was an unused line...something like,
    "andy said 15, well I been here an hour...."

    little doodle on the front.

    show was great AND I got paid to see it!!!
    Did you lose those things?
    yeah, active drunks and addicts arent very responsible.

    13 yrs later, am living a much better life....
    Well I'm glad for that.  That's great.  I always enjoy your posts here.  
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    I think they have Biden in a bunker somewhere doing debate prep. I’m nervous about Biden. I watched the Biden and Ryan debate the other day and it was even better than I remember, lol. I was laughing so hard.Biden totally dominated, but Ryan was a total pushover. I think these debates are gonna be so fun. I can’t wait for the brackets to come out, lol
    Biden is an excellent debater.  He's very good at drawing in personalized stories, naming people by name, talking about a street he's walking down.  It's very effective.  He smoked Ryan.  I hope he still has the touch.  
    Right, I hope he does. I worry he may not be as quick witted as maybe he once was. Mistakes in a debate are magnified so much more than a mistake at like a rally or on campaign trail.
     I also don’t want him to be overconfident or come off as cocky, which I’m sure he won’t.
    It makes me nervous everyone saying Biden’s are only chance. I feel like ive heard that before and it didn’t work out. 

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,601
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    While the numbers are not surprising in themselves, where Biden's strength comes from seems to be curious.  His rise correlates with Sanders' fall.  You wouldn't think Biden would be take votes from Sanders.  My guess is it's about the name recognition and the Democrats who aren't paying close attention yet.  So Sanders had strength from 2016 from the casual political follower, and then Biden took it.  Just a guess. 
    waaaaaay too soon for all of it. its like a perpetual election cycle anymore.
    Yes agreed.  BTW - I see your 94 Bayfront quote.  Were you there?  I was fortunate to be there.  Second time I saw them, first was at Lolla in Orlando in 92.  Bayront was awesome.  Looking back, it feels like it was chaos.  
    was in a halfway house for drunks snd druggies working a temp service. was contracted to tear down floor seats snd clean up. was able to sneak out and grab a decent seat. saw all but maybe 3 songs?

    used to have some memorabilia from the stage.  A few picks, blown amp center cone, this little notebook of Eds dropped center stage. in it he had the title for tremor christ with no lyrics yet.

    this other page had talking points. like somebody impersonated jeff at a previous show and scammed people out of pot(so he said) asked the crowd not to give "jeff" any pot. talked about that dr that was murdered the week or so before.

    and finally there was an unused line...something like,
    "andy said 15, well I been here an hour...."

    little doodle on the front.

    show was great AND I got paid to see it!!!
    Did you lose those things?
    yeah, active drunks and addicts arent very responsible.

    13 yrs later, am living a much better life....
    Well I'm glad for that.  That's great.  I always enjoy your posts here.  
    thank you. yours are informative here. fun on aet.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,601
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
    That's not good.  In 2008, one should have been well aware of the NRA being nothing but a gun lobby.  I'm a big proponent of what's called 'historical perspective', which means assessing people against the norms of the time.  For example, Abe Lincoln probably wasn't for desegregating schools.  JFK probably didn't support gay marriage.  That doesn't make them bigots.  Those were far off concepts at the time.  One should have been critical of the NRA in 2008.  
  • Ledbetterman10
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
    That's not good.  In 2008, one should have been well aware of the NRA being nothing but a gun lobby.  I'm a big proponent of what's called 'historical perspective', which means assessing people against the norms of the time.  For example, Abe Lincoln probably wasn't for desegregating schools.  JFK probably didn't support gay marriage.  That doesn't make them bigots.  Those were far off concepts at the time.  One should have been critical of the NRA in 2008.  
    Completely agree. Especially with the concept of historical perspective, and how that doesn't apply to Gillibrand here. 
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  • mcgruff10
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    After Gillibrand slammed the NRA during her town hall, the NRA posted a letter she wrote to them in 2008 where she talks about how she appreciates the work the NRA does: https://shared.nrapvf.org/sharedmedia/1510810/09182008-ny-gillibrandletter.pdf
    soo she was for it before she was against it.
    Yeah, because now she's a running for the democratic nomination and thus she has to hate the NRA. 
    That's not good.  In 2008, one should have been well aware of the NRA being nothing but a gun lobby.  I'm a big proponent of what's called 'historical perspective', which means assessing people against the norms of the time.  For example, Abe Lincoln probably wasn't for desegregating schools.  JFK probably didn't support gay marriage.  That doesn't make them bigots.  Those were far off concepts at the time.  One should have been critical of the NRA in 2008.  
    100% agree. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    Chris Matthews makes it tingle all over me:

    https://youtu.be/WOpRyJ5Obh0
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 2019
    Zero-chance Swalwell has an honest aura. Obviously should have keyed his family members cars for voting for Trump. But, well oh well:

    https://youtu.be/B02k7VKFUp0
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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