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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    edited May 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Then you should send my family and Meltdown's and McGruff's a thank you card for enjoying yourself.  Because without the help of the US and Canada, you'd have spent your youth in the goosestep.  
    Never said I've had a problem with the US joining the war.

    Doesn't make the US a better country to live in for its citizens with this laughable hard on for predatory capitalism and the military.

    viva le Swedish "folkhem" model. B l e s s e d

    (and Sweden did help the Allies out in WW2)
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    edited May 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    I forgot to include that my grandfathers brother (so my great uncle?) was a survivor of the Bataan death march. He went to a Japanese pow camp for the remainder of the war and somehow survived. 
    Spirtual you can send me a case of your best local beer as a way of saying thanks. 
    I honestly think Sweden would have been conquered by the Russians if we didn’t intervene. Scandanavia would have went red and mainland Europe would be saluting the swatistka even to this day. 
    Germany looked up to Sweden. We were the model for the perfect mench. No way Adolf would have let Russia have us. Our blond hair and blue eyes would have kept us safe.

    Is it legal to send alcohol from one private person to another?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,804
    mrussel1 said:
    Man, I can't believe he was in the death march and made it.  I can't even imagine the hell.  
    Yeah you are talking over three years in a POW camp on top of the March.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    Never said I've had a problem with the US joining the war.

    Doesn't make the US a better country to live in for its citizens with this laughable hard on for predatory capitalism and the military.

    viva le Swedish "folkhem" model. B l e s s e d

    (and Sweden did help the Allies out in WW2)
    Did they help like they helped transport German materials to the eastern front?  Do they just help whoever asks and it was a convenient time to help the Allies AFTER we were on the mainland?  Were you guys like Italy, but can't even raise an arm?  I mean they jumped sides, but at least they handled a weapon.  
    We do appreciate that you aren't critical of the US (and Canada) for saving your country.  That's big of you.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    mcgruff10 said:
    Yeah you are talking over three years in a POW camp on top of the March.  
    Not a hero to your president though. He likes the ones whos not getting caught ;)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,804
    Not a hero to your president though. He likes the ones whos not getting caught ;)
    Very true. I mean I don’t know how he couldn’t have been caught. But I screwed up my story a little bit.  My grandfathers sister ( my great aunt) was a nurse during world war 2. She took care of my future uncle after he was released from the camp. They fell in love and were married 50 years before my great aunt mary passed. So the guy who survived wasn’t my blood line if that makes any difference. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    mcgruff10 said:
    Very true. I mean I don’t know how he couldn’t have been caught. But I screwed up my story a little bit.  My grandfathers sister ( my great aunt) was a nurse during world war 2. She took care of my future uncle after he was released from the camp. They fell in love and were married 50 years before my great aunt mary passed. So the guy who survived wasn’t my blood line if that makes any difference. 
    It's kin. You should be proud of their service.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    edited May 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    We do appreciate that you aren't critical of the US (and Canada) for saving your country.  That's big of you.  
    Well ofc. I am able to be objective. 

    That is one of the perks of not being raised in a country with an alarming amount of spoon-feeding of nationalism and singing the national anthem 15-16 times a day. :P 
     
    (And for some perspective, the US didn't join the war for over two years before they themselves were attacked)

    A lot of people died with the US being neutral for those two years. A shame.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    Well ofc. I am able to be objective. 

    That is one of the perks of not being raised in a country with an alarming amount of spoon-feeding of nationalism and singing the national anthem 15-16 times a day. :P 
     
    (And for some perspective, the US didn't join the war for over two years before they themselves were attacked)

    A lot of people died with the US being neutral for those two years. A shame.
    You're sorely mistaken on so many levels.  Get out of your basement.  

    Second,  it's a shame how your country enabled the the Einsatzgeuppen and their war crimes. I think that mark runs a tad deeper.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    edited May 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    You're sorely mistaken on so many levels.  Get out of your basement.  

    Second,  it's a shame how your country enabled the the Einsatzgeuppen and their war crimes. I think that mark runs a tad deeper.  
    Well, at least we never napalmed children and mocks countries who try to help out Syrian refugees  :s .

     Have fun in your basement. Whatever that means. In the San Francisco area it is uncommon with basements. But the Roger Rabbit-voice actor - who also plays the sleep expert in A Nightmare on Elm Street, has one - and Jake Gyllenhall finds himself walking down into it. Scary stuff. A thrill in the movie theater. Finches knows what he's doing.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    Well, at least we never napalmed children and mocks countries who try to help out Syrian refugees  :s .

     Have fun in your basement. Whatever that means. In the San Francisco area it is uncommon with basements. But the Roger Rabbit-voice actor - who also plays the sleep expert in A Nightmare on Elm Street, has one - and Jake Gyllenhall finds himself walking down into it. Scary stuff. A thrill in the movie theater. Finches knows what he's doing.
    Napalm trumps firing squads? Congrats.  

    The rest of what you wrote is gibberish.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,804
    edited May 2019
    Well ofc. I am able to be objective. 

    That is one of the perks of not being raised in a country with an alarming amount of spoon-feeding of nationalism and singing the national anthem 15-16 times a day. :P 
     
    (And for some perspective, the US didn't join the war for over two years before they themselves were attacked)

    A lot of people died with the US being neutral for those two years. A shame.
    This is pretty dumb.  (The second part about the us not entering the war). 
    If you want you can sit in a class of mine and I ll teach you why we sat out.  
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    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    mcgruff10 said:
    This is pretty dumb.  
    The entire conversation is.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,804
    PJ_Soul said:
    The entire conversation is.
    Why comment If you have no interest in world war 2?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    edited May 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    Why comment If you have no interest in world war 2?
    I have a massive interest in WWII. Why would you think otherwise? But this isn't a conversation about WWII really. It's one about which country is the biggest jerk or the best participant when it comes to WWII, and it seems to be getting used as some kind of weird pissing contest between you guys on these boards: Sweden vs USA. It's just really strange to me.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    edited May 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I have a massive interest in WWII. Why would you think otherwise? But this isn't a conversation about WWII really. It's one about which country is the biggest jerk or the best participant when it comes to WWII, and it seems to be getting used as some kind of weird pissing contest between you guys on these boards: Sweden vs USA. It's just really strange to me.
    Just to add - Im not the one jerking off my own country for joining and i have said nothing about Sweden joining or not joining. 

    The D-day documentary was Interesting though. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,804
    edited May 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I have a massive interest in WWII. Why would you think otherwise? But this isn't a conversation about WWII really. It's one about which country is the biggest jerk or the best participant when it comes to WWII, and it seems to be getting used as some kind of weird pissing contest between you guys on these boards: Sweden vs USA. It's just really strange to me.
    It is also very strange to me too.  I m glad to hear you have an interest in world war 2. Besides your hockey affiliation and calamari sauce you seem like a very cool person. 


    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    mcgruff10 said:
    This is pretty dumb.  (The second part about the us not entering the war). 
    If you want you can sit in a class of mine and I ll teach you why we sat out.  
    And if you want you can pick up a book and read up on why Sweden decided on staying neutral.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    edited May 2019
    Americans were practically isolationists before WWII, really, plus their military really wasn't up to snuff in 1939. Plus the public was simply not in the mood at all, so that encouraged the politicians to stay neutral. Obviously Pearl Harbour changed all that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    Seeing jokes being made in the media about Beto still running. 

    What has happend to his campaign?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,223
    edited May 2019
    Seeing jokes being made in the media about Beto still running. 

    What has happend to his campaign?
    I have no idea - everyone seemed to have stopped paying any attention to him. I think there was only room for one moderate in the front runner race, and Biden won.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    PJ_Soul said:
    I have no idea - everyone seemed to have stopped paying any attention to him. I think there was only room for one moderate in the front runner race, and Biden won.
    Or one Young JFK hottie and buddahedgeedge took his thunder. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    PJ_Soul said:
    The entire conversation is.
    So long as he feels compelled to make one statement that he thinks encompasses 300 million people,  I'm going to do the same.  The ignorance is astounding to me and I won't sitand not write back.  We've been through it 5 different times at least. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,248
    PJ_Soul said:
    I have no idea - everyone seemed to have stopped paying any attention to him. I think there was only room for one moderate in the front runner race, and Biden won.
    I noticed that HBO had a special that aired on him two days ago (premiered at SXSW earlier this year). I wonder if he was laying low with intentions of a ‘restart’. That theory should be proven or disproven within a matter of a few days!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    mrussel1 said:
    So long as he feels compelled to make one statement that he thinks encompasses 300 million people,  I'm going to do the same.  The ignorance is astounding to me and I won't sitand not write back.  We've been through it 5 different times at least. 
    Oh, the irony 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,062
    Is the first primary debate in july?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,848
    mrussel1 said:
    I'm talking about the government, not random citizens.  
    That was not at all what your original post that I responded to was about. 
     
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    That was not at all what your original post that I responded to was about. 
     
    The whole thing is tongue in cheek.  Is the reason I'm going down this path that obscure?  If you notice my posting style after all of these years, I never apply statements to entire populations, countries, etc.  I try to hold individuals accountable for their actions.  I'm hardly a jingoist or a nationalist, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone apply a statement to the 300 million people that live here.  
    And my point stands around criticism of the gov't being legal as an anomaly in the late 18th century.  It was uniquely American at the time. My apologies for not being specific enough.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    Oh, the irony 
    Find a statement that I've made, unprovoked by your ass, that is USA#1, rah rah.  You won't find it.  We'll go through this cycle again next time you make a similarly disparaging statement for no reason.  Unfortunately I have to keep going back to WW2 because Sweden is inconsequential post the Viking invasion of Wessex until then, and after.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,408
    benjs said:
    I noticed that HBO had a special that aired on him two days ago (premiered at SXSW earlier this year). I wonder if he was laying low with intentions of a ‘restart’. That theory should be proven or disproven within a matter of a few days!
    Yes supposedly they are doing the proverbial 'reboot'.  There's just not enough oxygen for all of these candidates right now.  I don't think he's a player.  I may be wrong, but I think it comes down to the big dogs, Biden Sanders Warren and one more.  I think that one more is Harris.  The problem is can anyone but three get into SC without being broke?  

    My best guess now is that Biden wins NH because Warren and Sanders will split that vote.  Sanders wins Iowa with Biden in second.  Biden mauls everyone in SC.  Then we are down to three.  Super Tuesday sets up really well for Biden.  
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