The Democratic Candidates

Spiritual_Chaos

rustneversleeps said:

what about the Swedish meatballs?  

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

unimplementable ideas are useless. little to nothing he proposes gets past 2/3s in the Senate.

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Spiritual_Chaos

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

unimplementable ideas are useless. little to nothing he proposes gets past 2/3s in the Senate.

Okey, Pelosi. haha.

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

mickeyrat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

unimplementable ideas are useless. little to nothing he proposes gets past 2/3s in the Senate.

Okey, Pelosi. haha.

fact , douche.

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mickeyrat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

unimplementable ideas are useless. little to nothing he proposes gets past 2/3s in the Senate.

Okey, Pelosi. haha.

Okay reality.. ha ha.. who needs reality when you can just type shit.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

Spiritual_Chaos

Should Elisabeth Warren start calling Trump "Brokahontas" like Bill Maher thinks?

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

mcgruff10

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

And how the hell do you  pay for that?

mrussel1

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

And how the hell do you  pay for that?

He had a whole tax structure for it,  but regardless it's not progressive.  Buy contrast,  Warren's early child care and Bidens Title III education proposal were far more progressive and less socialist 

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

Debt forgiveness I do not understand.

Free college tuition - didn't you already have that  decades ago in the states (?). I don't see any reason why you should have a paywall to help rich people get better education (but maybe there is one). If Sweden, and other countries, can have "free tuition" and no paywall to get into a College and University - then I vote PROGRESS on that one. 

mrussel1

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

Debt forgiveness I do not understand.

Free college tuition - didn't you already have that  decades ago in the states (?). I don't see any reason why you should have a paywall to help rich people get better education (but maybe there is one). If Sweden, and other countries, can have "free tuition" and no paywall to get into a College and University - then I vote PROGRESS on that one. 

You don't have a vote and you still don't understand the political distinction I am drawing.  

Spiritual_Chaos

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mrussel1 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

ANY BERNIE FANS IN DA HOUSE?!

Bernie's non-progressive values annoy the shit out of me.  

In the US,  it would impossible for his ideas not to be considered progress.

Socialist and progressive are not interchangeable terms.  

So, please tell me in what way would tax funded health care not be progress in this country of yours?

I mean, how many years behind the rest of the world are you with that basic idea?

So yes, from where you stand as a country -- some social democratic values, that spread through more successful democracies decades ago, would be progress for you. Because you are Twilight Zone levels of behind in the name of capitalism and political corruption.

Progress is not synonymous with progressive.  They may overlap from a terms perspective, but they are not the same, just like socialism is not always the same.  None of your last paragraph has anything to do with the distinction I'm drawing between a progressive policy and socialist policy.  

Okey. Well my point still stands.

So does mine.  Bernie's policies, by and large, are not progressive.  I don't like them.  

list some policies of his you do not like?

Free college tuition and debt forgiveness.  These are not progressive.  They disproportionately help middle class white people. 

Debt forgiveness I do not understand.

Free college tuition - didn't you already have that  decades ago in the states (?). I don't see any reason why you should have a paywall to help rich people get better education (but maybe there is one). If Sweden, and other countries, can have "free tuition" and no paywall to get into a College and University - then I vote PROGRESS on that one. 

You don't have a vote and you still don't understand the political distinction I am drawing.  

Your distinction is moot. I'm not talking about your distinction.  

Moving towards a European model of not paywalling people out of education in the Twilight Zone of America is PROGRESS.

I press that button again:

Spiritual_Chaos

Good night now. It's 2:30 AM here, and I'm gonna wash clothes at 08:00. 

mrussel1

Also,  a paywall in the states is when you have to pay to access content in a website.  I don't understand how you are using it.