PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The response from my Congressperson after emailing them post Mueller news conference:

Thank you for writing to express your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts on this important issue.

As you know, Donald Trump, as both a candidate and a president, has been mired in controversy. The nation and the world have witnessed the growing evidence of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, the mishandling of important security information, and substantial evidence of obstruction of justice.  Moreover, the Trump administration has refused to comply with multiple requests for information, appearances, and even defied subpoenas from multiple congressional committees.

Because of the Administration’s wholesale obstruction of valid congressional oversight, combined with the widespread evidence of misdeeds that require further investigation laid out in the Mueller Report, at this time, I believe it is appropriate to open an impeachment inquiry.  Article Two, Section Four of the United States Constitution states, “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.” 

Impeachment consists of two separate proceedings, the first of which begins in the House of Representatives.  First, the House must open an inquiry to determine whether there is enough evidence to begin an impeachment proceeding. If the Judiciary Committee determines it is appropriate and supported by the evidence, we would vote on articles of impeachment, to formally approve allegations of wrongdoing amounting to high crimes and misdemeanors. If approved by a simple majority of the House, the articles of impeachment are then forwarded to the Senate where the second proceeding takes place: an impeachment trial. If the Senate, by vote of a two-thirds majority, convicts the official of the alleged offenses, the result is removal from office of those still in office, and, at the Senate's discretion, disqualification from holding future office. 

I do not take impeachment or the potential removal of our President from office lightly.  Starting this process would be a sobering step for our country and must only be taken upon a grave breach in conduct such that it is incompatible with the laws of our nation or proper performance of the duties of office.  I believe that President Trump’s wholesale violation of law and order, by refusing to comply with any congressional oversight, amounts to obstruction of justice. He has left us with no choice but to begin an impeachment inquiry.  The Speaker of the House, together with other members of House Leadership will ultimately decide our path forward. I have joined many of my House colleagues in arguing for the beginning of an impeachment inquiry and we are having healthy discussions as a Caucus on the best strategy.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  If I may be of assistance to you again in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me.  In the meantime, please visit www.house.gov for up-to-date information.

My best always

Member of Congress

Interesting response from a Republican. I wonder if any of his colleagues in the Senate feel the same way. I bet some do. But would they actually vote to convict in an impeachment trial? 

You should post the email you sent him as well.

At this point, the only way a GOP senator would vote this way is if he/she was putting country and rule of law ahead of his/her own own seat.  I doubt there's a state, outside of Utah, perhaps, in which going against Trump would not get you primaried.  Trump is still immensely popular among Republicans. If that somehow changed?  Then you'd probably get some GOP legislators to turn on him.  But I don't think we've ever seen this level of devotion.  I don't see enough Republicans turning.

(Also, my gut reaction to Halifax is that it's not Devin Nunes and he was actually trying to see our reaction...but maybe I was wrong).

I was being facetious, least I reveal my location and the forum hordes arrive at my bulkhead, dragging me out of my mother's basement as I cling to my keyboard with my Cheeto encrusted fingers. But as it stands today, 48 dems and 1 repub have publicly called for impeachment hearings to begin. And I'm proud to be represented by a Congressperson who stands up for the Constitution.

More on all of this later as I'm still reading the Team Mueller Report and I'm slammed at work, plus I have a new part time job as a taster for Doritos.

“There was no collusion.”

“I don’t know any Russians.”

“I have nothing to hide.”

“I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

“We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

“Fully exonerated.”

“Essentially no collusion.”

 Follow the damn money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

I can't say I appreciate the lie. I tend to assume you all aren't going to lie when I ask a question, so I believed you, which is why I wowed at your answer. So thanks for making me waste my time considering the meaning of Nunes taking that position.

So who in the hell was the actual member of Congress? Why would you want to hide where you live? Now I'm doubting that entire letter. Is it even real??

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJ_Soul said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The response from my Congressperson after emailing them post Mueller news conference:

Thank you for writing to express your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts on this important issue.

As you know, Donald Trump, as both a candidate and a president, has been mired in controversy. The nation and the world have witnessed the growing evidence of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, the mishandling of important security information, and substantial evidence of obstruction of justice.  Moreover, the Trump administration has refused to comply with multiple requests for information, appearances, and even defied subpoenas from multiple congressional committees.

Because of the Administration’s wholesale obstruction of valid congressional oversight, combined with the widespread evidence of misdeeds that require further investigation laid out in the Mueller Report, at this time, I believe it is appropriate to open an impeachment inquiry.  Article Two, Section Four of the United States Constitution states, “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.” 

Impeachment consists of two separate proceedings, the first of which begins in the House of Representatives.  First, the House must open an inquiry to determine whether there is enough evidence to begin an impeachment proceeding. If the Judiciary Committee determines it is appropriate and supported by the evidence, we would vote on articles of impeachment, to formally approve allegations of wrongdoing amounting to high crimes and misdemeanors. If approved by a simple majority of the House, the articles of impeachment are then forwarded to the Senate where the second proceeding takes place: an impeachment trial. If the Senate, by vote of a two-thirds majority, convicts the official of the alleged offenses, the result is removal from office of those still in office, and, at the Senate's discretion, disqualification from holding future office. 

I do not take impeachment or the potential removal of our President from office lightly.  Starting this process would be a sobering step for our country and must only be taken upon a grave breach in conduct such that it is incompatible with the laws of our nation or proper performance of the duties of office.  I believe that President Trump’s wholesale violation of law and order, by refusing to comply with any congressional oversight, amounts to obstruction of justice. He has left us with no choice but to begin an impeachment inquiry.  The Speaker of the House, together with other members of House Leadership will ultimately decide our path forward. I have joined many of my House colleagues in arguing for the beginning of an impeachment inquiry and we are having healthy discussions as a Caucus on the best strategy.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  If I may be of assistance to you again in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me.  In the meantime, please visit www.house.gov for up-to-date information.

My best always

Member of Congress

Interesting response from a Republican. I wonder if any of his colleagues in the Senate feel the same way. I bet some do. But would they actually vote to convict in an impeachment trial? 

You should post the email you sent him as well.

At this point, the only way a GOP senator would vote this way is if he/she was putting country and rule of law ahead of his/her own own seat.  I doubt there's a state, outside of Utah, perhaps, in which going against Trump would not get you primaried.  Trump is still immensely popular among Republicans. If that somehow changed?  Then you'd probably get some GOP legislators to turn on him.  But I don't think we've ever seen this level of devotion.  I don't see enough Republicans turning.

(Also, my gut reaction to Halifax is that it's not Devin Nunes and he was actually trying to see our reaction...but maybe I was wrong).

I was being facetious, least I reveal my location and the forum hordes arrive at my bulkhead, dragging me out of my mother's basement as I cling to my keyboard with my Cheeto encrusted fingers. But as it stands today, 48 dems and 1 repub have publicly called for impeachment hearings to begin. And I'm proud to be represented by a Congressperson who stands up for the Constitution.

More on all of this later as I'm still reading the Team Mueller Report and I'm slammed at work, plus I have a new part time job as a taster for Doritos.

“There was no collusion.”

“I don’t know any Russians.”

“I have nothing to hide.”

“I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”

“We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

“Fully exonerated.”

“Essentially no collusion.”

 Follow the damn money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

I can't say I appreciate the lie. I tend to assume you all aren't going to lie when I ask a question, so I believed you, which is why I wowed at your answer. So thanks for making me waste my time considering the meaning of Nunes taking that position.

So who in the hell was the actual member of Congress? Why would you want to hide where you live? Now I'm doubting that entire letter. Is it even real??

My apologies but I seriously thought it would have been obvious as Nunes would have to do a 900 degree turnaround to write something of the sort. I assure you, the repsonse is real and from my congressperson. Someone else suggested that I post my email as well but when I looked for what I had sent, it wasn't available as you have to pre-complete required fields in a form via their web page. I even tried to send it to myself using their "share" feature but when it came to me, it was blank. Anyway, I explained to my congressperson that I was reading the Mueller Report, had watched his press conference and had been closely following the saga from the beginning and that I was imploring him to get Speaker Pelosi to begin impeachment hearings, and stand up for the rule of law and our constitution, as clearly it was the congress' duty to do so.

Privacy is a fleeting commodity.

Yes, I thought Nunes had done a complete turn around! Like I said, you never fucking know with these people. I understand why you thought it would be obvious to everyone, but I gave up making assumptions about what Republicans who side with Trump will and won't do a long time ago TBH. These creeps will turn on a dime with ANYTHING if it serves them. They have no principles whatsoever. Not even for the horrible shit they support now. Anyone loyal to Trump can't be relied on to be consistent IMO (it's just too bad there are always more creeps coming up the rear to replace any of those who bail or are fired). And yeah, emojis are just stupid. They are useful.

Halifax2TheMax said:

oftenreading said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The response from my Congressperson after emailing them post Mueller news conference:

Thank you for writing to express your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts on this important issue.

As you know, Donald Trump, as both a candidate and a president, has been mired in controversy. The nation and the world have witnessed the growing evidence of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials, the mishandling of important security information, and substantial evidence of obstruction of justice.  Moreover, the Trump administration has refused to comply with multiple requests for information, appearances, and even defied subpoenas from multiple congressional committees.

Because of the Administration’s wholesale obstruction of valid congressional oversight, combined with the widespread evidence of misdeeds that require further investigation laid out in the Mueller Report, at this time, I believe it is appropriate to open an impeachment inquiry.  Article Two, Section Four of the United States Constitution states, “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.” 

Impeachment consists of two separate proceedings, the first of which begins in the House of Representatives.  First, the House must open an inquiry to determine whether there is enough evidence to begin an impeachment proceeding. If the Judiciary Committee determines it is appropriate and supported by the evidence, we would vote on articles of impeachment, to formally approve allegations of wrongdoing amounting to high crimes and misdemeanors. If approved by a simple majority of the House, the articles of impeachment are then forwarded to the Senate where the second proceeding takes place: an impeachment trial. If the Senate, by vote of a two-thirds majority, convicts the official of the alleged offenses, the result is removal from office of those still in office, and, at the Senate's discretion, disqualification from holding future office. 

I do not take impeachment or the potential removal of our President from office lightly.  Starting this process would be a sobering step for our country and must only be taken upon a grave breach in conduct such that it is incompatible with the laws of our nation or proper performance of the duties of office.  I believe that President Trump’s wholesale violation of law and order, by refusing to comply with any congressional oversight, amounts to obstruction of justice. He has left us with no choice but to begin an impeachment inquiry.  The Speaker of the House, together with other members of House Leadership will ultimately decide our path forward. I have joined many of my House colleagues in arguing for the beginning of an impeachment inquiry and we are having healthy discussions as a Caucus on the best strategy.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact me regarding your support for the impeachment of President Donald J. Trump.  If I may be of assistance to you again in the future, please do not hesitate to contact me.  In the meantime, please visit www.house.gov for up-to-date information.

My best always

Member of Congress

Interesting response from a Republican. I wonder if any of his colleagues in the Senate feel the same way. I bet some do. But would they actually vote to convict in an impeachment trial? 

You should post the email you sent him as well.

At this point, the only way a GOP senator would vote this way is if he/she was putting country and rule of law ahead of his/her own own seat.  I doubt there's a state, outside of Utah, perhaps, in which going against Trump would not get you primaried.  Trump is still immensely popular among Republicans. If that somehow changed?  Then you'd probably get some GOP legislators to turn on him.  But I don't think we've ever seen this level of devotion.  I don't see enough Republicans turning.

(Also, my gut reaction to Halifax is that it's not Devin Nunes and he was actually trying to see our reaction...but maybe I was wrong).

More on all of this later as I'm still reading the Team Mueller Report and I'm slammed at work, plus I have a new part time job as a taster for Doritos.

I hear the imPEACH flavour is nice.

Los duraznos son muy muy caliente! 

Halifax2TheMax said:

Go Beavers said:

No collusion! It’s Over! Except dirty dirty Mike Flynn. Getting big bucks from Turkey, but they weren’t getting the love they needed. Poor customer service Mike!
“A foreign client paying retired Gen. Michael Flynn more than $500,000 to mount a campaign to advance Turkish government interests during the 2016 presidential campaign explicitly complained to a Flynn aide that then-candidate Donald Trump was not being supportive enough, newly released documents show.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/05/31/michael-flynn-turkey-lobbying-1349054

This is an example of the types of things that have been generated by the Team Mueller investigation that people who haven’t read don’t know or who have read and
 choose to be willfully ignorant about. Volume I has a lot of redactions, many due to “harm to ongoing criminal matter.” Volume II has very few redactions and lays out the 10 instances for obstruction of justice. You do the math bunky.
 

PJ_Soul said:

Oh boy.

Transcript released of Flynn voicemail from Trump lawyer showing possible attempt to obstruct

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/michael-flynn-john-dowd-voicemail/index.html

benjs said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1134468501115199489

I like Mahdi Hasan and he’s been taking this position for quite some time now, but I’m not fully convinced Pelosi has no plan to propose impeachment proceedings (though that has to do with whether you take her at face value or not). There’s a finite number of ways to influence people to come around to your way of thinking, and one of the most effective ways is to convince them the idea you want them to push, was theirs all along. To me, I think she’s looking for a critical mass of House Democrats to support impeachment before she proposes moving forward, and I think her perceived inactivity could be a strong catalyst for that unification.  I think Pelosi is smart enough to play this long game successfully though this is all conjecture. 

Go Beavers said:

Pelosi was a little cryptic: "Well, we've been on that path for a while, and when we do get to where we're going, we're going to be ready."