The Democratic Candidates
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I love walking around in grocery stores."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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You're both lunatics.Spiritual_Chaos said:I love walking around in grocery stores.0 -
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE!"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
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I think Biden would win easily against Trump. Sanders will not...to easy for Trump to exploit the socialism angle...
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Page 9mrussel1 said:Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
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"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it.mrussel1 said:
Page 9mrussel1 said:Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/biden-transcript.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjCzqeQxfDhAhULmeAKHbqPCHgQFjABegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1ZH9zmwSs3at71Mbqt2atV
And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
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Thanks Brian.brianlux said:
"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it.mrussel1 said:
Page 9mrussel1 said:Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/biden-transcript.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjCzqeQxfDhAhULmeAKHbqPCHgQFjABegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1ZH9zmwSs3at71Mbqt2atV
And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
It's not exactly the words you would hear from Stephen Moore. He's blaming the system, which is where I lay the blame as well.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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LOL, that's for sure!mrussel1 said:
Thanks Brian.brianlux said:
"this gap is yawning, it’s gaping, and it’s having the effect of pulling us apart. You see the politics of it.mrussel1 said:
Page 9mrussel1 said:Think those dots are important? Read the whole thing and stop getting information from Twitter. You want to argue his real point, please do. It's page 19. Read the whole speech to really understand.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/biden-transcript.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjCzqeQxfDhAhULmeAKHbqPCHgQFjABegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw1ZH9zmwSs3at71Mbqt2atV
And the country’s not going to stand for it forever, so we have to deal with the tax code. It’s wildly skewed toward taking care of those at the very top. It favors, overwhelmingly favors, investors over workers and it’s riddled with unproductive expenditures."
It's not exactly the words you would hear from Stephen Moore. He's blaming the system, which is where I lay the blame as well.
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tulsi has zero chance. mayor pete will get destroyed in a general against trump.
the russians are going to help trump again, so the young dem candidates are moot. mueller saw to this when he failed to indict trump.
looks like it is going to be bernie or joe as the nominee."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
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I’ve always wondered how the right managed to convince people that’s it’s wrong and weird to be in favour of social justice.OnWis97 said:
Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Social justice is bad.
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The way they approach social justice isn't always the best way.oftenreading said:
I’ve always wondered how the right managed to convince people that’s it’s wrong and weird to be in favour of social justice.OnWis97 said:
Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Social justice is bad.
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So? Is anyone’s approach always the best way? On balance, I’d rather be on the side of social justice than opposed to it, because sure as hell the right’s approach isn’t the best way.mrussel1 said:
The way they approach social justice isn't always the best way.oftenreading said:
I’ve always wondered how the right managed to convince people that’s it’s wrong and weird to be in favour of social justice.OnWis97 said:
Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Social justice is bad.
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I don't understand your point? Is that the choice I have to make?oftenreading said:
So? Is anyone’s approach always the best way? On balance, I’d rather be on the side of social justice than opposed to it, because sure as hell the right’s approach isn’t the best way.mrussel1 said:
The way they approach social justice isn't always the best way.oftenreading said:
I’ve always wondered how the right managed to convince people that’s it’s wrong and weird to be in favour of social justice.OnWis97 said:
Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Social justice is bad.
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Because social justice primarily benefits the “other.”oftenreading said:
I’ve always wondered how the right managed to convince people that’s it’s wrong and weird to be in favour of social justice.OnWis97 said:
Also, in America it’s awful to be an SJW.mrussel1 said:
Progressive isn't a negative. Teddy Roosevelt ran for president on a progressive ticket. Until very recently, there really wasn't a difference (in my mind) between a progressive and a liberal. But there's been some odd shift where the SJW's and social media a-holes have taken up this word to describe themselves and the media has subscribed.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Isn't it weird living in a country where "progressive" is a negative...mrussel1 said:
It will only be a few years before progressives hate Obama because of his stance on marriage in 2008.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doing everything you can to fight Climate change - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Cheaper and more democratic healthcare by tax funding - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Caring for people and the world - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Getting out of the cult of the US being "the greatest experiment on earth" - HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!
Was it his true stance, or his public stance to get elected in conservative/moderate HEY WAIT A MINUTE! SLOW DOWN!-America ? And Biden came out first in support, before Obama - right?
BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Social justice is bad.
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Dude why are you freaking out? Did i say being a moderate was a bad thing? Joe Biden is a moderate and has never been considered a liberal, not in the 80's, 90's, or 2000's... that's not good, thats not bad, thats just who he is... you support the guy because he's a fucking moderate and you want to lecture me? you act like you just learned who Joe Biden is? Lolmrussel1 said:
See this is a perfect example of the lack of historical perspective when evaluating people's positions. The Crime Bill was not considered a 'conservative/liberal' demarcation point when it came to pass. The cities were ravaged by crime and the leaders in the black community, including the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, supported the bill. You can't judge their vote by what we know today, 30 friggin' years later, with the benefit of hindsight. And don't forget the Violence Against Women Act was a subset. I guess Biden should have voted against that?my2hands said:
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......mrussel1 said:
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.mrussel1 said:BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
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Where did you get that he’s freaking out? No freaking is apparent to me. Just information, which maybe you don’t like.my2hands said:
Dude why are you freaking out? Did i say being a moderate was a bad thing? Joe Biden is a moderate and has never been considered a liberal, not in the 80's, 90's, or 2000's... that's not good, thats not bad, thats just who he is... you support the guy because he's a fucking moderate and you want to lecture me? you act like you just learned who Joe Biden is? Lolmrussel1 said:
See this is a perfect example of the lack of historical perspective when evaluating people's positions. The Crime Bill was not considered a 'conservative/liberal' demarcation point when it came to pass. The cities were ravaged by crime and the leaders in the black community, including the majority of the Congressional Black Caucus, supported the bill. You can't judge their vote by what we know today, 30 friggin' years later, with the benefit of hindsight. And don't forget the Violence Against Women Act was a subset. I guess Biden should have voted against that?my2hands said:
Ahhhhhh, not really.... Joe is a moderate.... nobody considers him a liberal, and they shouldn't... he is s solid moderare dem.... the iraq war vote being near the top of the list and the crime bill, etc......mrussel1 said:
Haha, that's a good joke, and seems to be true this year. Although, it seems to be the progressives. Biden would be considered a liberal I think, under today's nomenclature.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If I got a nickel every time I did that to myself.mrussel1 said:BTW - your second paragraph is way overstated and blows up what could have been a pretty good argument.
Anyways, the only difference between a liberal and a cannibal is that cannibals don't eat their friends and family. I've heard.
I would not consider Joe to be a liberal or progressive, which i feel are the same thing
Oh and FYI, Sanders voted for it too. I guess he's a moderate.
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/4/25/18282870/joe-biden-criminal-justice-war-on-drugs-mass-incarceration
All i said was, very simply, Joe Biden is not, and has never been a liberal or considered a liberal. He is a moderate, and has always been a moderate, and will always be a moderate.
Feel free to parse and debate whatever you want for the next 5 pages, to call him a liberal is incorrect0
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