The Democratic Candidates

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Hi! said:
    Smart man... he's not a coward 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,381
    my2hands said:
    Agree about your first two words, not your insinuation about the rest of the party.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095

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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    FWIW, I tend to agree that the jokes/speculation regarding Ivanka and her father are completely inappropriate. If it's true, then the trauma she has experienced is not funny at all, and no survivor of sexual abuse should be re-traumatized in the media by comedians or continuous public scrutiny. I don't think it's right at all.
    Who is joking or speculating? It’s not joking or speculating to post the comments he’s made. 
    If he weren't our infamous president, and he weren't a real estate brand, and his comments were made at a small private party of neighbors, and Ivanka were really being molested by her father, it would be an absolute tragedy for her. The family would be suffering terribly, and I would hope that if any of us learned it was happening, we would either intervene or in the least display empathy and tact when discussing the neighbors. Now as it is, we all think it's gross and creepy -- and yet we gawk and we gawk, and we replay and replay the comments for all to hear, including Ivanka, a potentially real victim. 

    Just like that little girl in the video shown above, whose parents, I hear, have said publicly that their daughter was not traumatized by the vice-president. But now she goes down in history as the kid who was molested by dirty old Joe Biden. How terrible for that little girl. THINK ABOUT IT -- if you cared that she was being traumatized, would you continue to play over and over the video where she was traumatized, recreating the trauma for the child every time you played it? Why would you do that? Enough. It's sick. Not Joe Biden. People's disgusting fascination with this shit -- that's what's sick, not for one minute thinking anything's wrong with exploiting that little girl in the media. You are all complicit every time you click on the bait.

    That's a whole lot of "ifs". And I personally have never thought Ivanka is or was actually being molested. I don't think I've ever seen anyone even claim that; it's just what I think is perfectly normal disgust with his comments. Of course it would be a tragedy if it were true, I just don't think there's any evidence that it is, and I don't think anyone is going to stop talking about situations just because they could potentially be much worse than they appear. 
    And this is exactly how lives get ruined . . . People continuing to talk about things they know nothing about but think they do. Funny how I just had the same conversation with my 7th graders before lunch. They see their peers' lives getting wrecked this way all the time, and they're emotionally exhausted by it. 

    But please do carry on. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    FWIW, I tend to agree that the jokes/speculation regarding Ivanka and her father are completely inappropriate. If it's true, then the trauma she has experienced is not funny at all, and no survivor of sexual abuse should be re-traumatized in the media by comedians or continuous public scrutiny. I don't think it's right at all.
    Who is joking or speculating? It’s not joking or speculating to post the comments he’s made. 
    If he weren't our infamous president, and he weren't a real estate brand, and his comments were made at a small private party of neighbors, and Ivanka were really being molested by her father, it would be an absolute tragedy for her. The family would be suffering terribly, and I would hope that if any of us learned it was happening, we would either intervene or in the least display empathy and tact when discussing the neighbors. Now as it is, we all think it's gross and creepy -- and yet we gawk and we gawk, and we replay and replay the comments for all to hear, including Ivanka, a potentially real victim. 

    Just like that little girl in the video shown above, whose parents, I hear, have said publicly that their daughter was not traumatized by the vice-president. But now she goes down in history as the kid who was molested by dirty old Joe Biden. How terrible for that little girl. THINK ABOUT IT -- if you cared that she was being traumatized, would you continue to play over and over the video where she was traumatized, recreating the trauma for the child every time you played it? Why would you do that? Enough. It's sick. Not Joe Biden. People's disgusting fascination with this shit -- that's what's sick, not for one minute thinking anything's wrong with exploiting that little girl in the media. You are all complicit every time you click on the bait.

    That's a whole lot of "ifs". And I personally have never thought Ivanka is or was actually being molested. I don't think I've ever seen anyone even claim that; it's just what I think is perfectly normal disgust with his comments. Of course it would be a tragedy if it were true, I just don't think there's any evidence that it is, and I don't think anyone is going to stop talking about situations just because they could potentially be much worse than they appear. 
    And this is exactly how lives get ruined . . . People continuing to talk about things they know nothing about but think they do. Funny how I just had the same conversation with my 7th graders before lunch. They see their peers' lives getting wrecked this way all the time, and they're emotionally exhausted by it. 

    But please do carry on. 
    Were only quoting what Trump himself has said.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,487
    edited April 2019
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited April 2019
    Thanks for posting. I’m gonna check out some of those interviews. I’ve never watched Breakfast Club nor do I have any idea who Charlemagne is, but think I would like it.

    Sweet looks like they are available on my Apple Podcasts App.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Hi! said:
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 
    Who is he sniffing?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Hi! said:
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 
    Who is he sniffing?
    You must think Trump is grabbing a vagina right now too.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 
    Who is he sniffing?
    You must think Trump is grabbing a vagina right now too.
    I'm betting he's grabbing the one on his neck right now.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 
    Who is he sniffing?
    You must think Trump is grabbing a vagina right now too.
    Probably is.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    But again, what does trump have to do with Biden being a creep?
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Biden live right now and I’m loving it. 
    Who is he sniffing?
    You must think Trump is grabbing a vagina right now too.
    I'm betting he's grabbing the one on his neck right now.
    Can't unsee that crap 
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I listened to about half hour of the speech and found it rather refreshing considering what we have had to listen to the last 2 plus yrs from Trump. Anyway, I’ve had time to think about the Biden touchy-feely stuff for a few days and I don’t think he’s a sex predator or pervert, so if people want to use that against him, whatever. 

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Hi! said:
    I listened to about half hour of the speech and found it rather refreshing considering what we have had to listen to the last 2 plus yrs from Trump. Anyway, I’ve had time to think about the Biden touchy-feely stuff for a few days and I don’t think he’s a sex predator or pervert, so if people want to use that against him, whatever. 
    I'm sure he has internal polling out there now to determine the impact of the issue and his response.  I wouldn't make a move for a few more weeks. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    Hi! said:
    I listened to about half hour of the speech and found it rather refreshing considering what we have had to listen to the last 2 plus yrs from Trump. Anyway, I’ve had time to think about the Biden touchy-feely stuff for a few days and I don’t think he’s a sex predator or pervert, so if people want to use that against him, whatever. 
    I’m confused when this creepy “touchy-feely” (which is the nice term for inappropriate touching) matters and when it’s not big deal.

    if these were videos of a different person doing this, one that people didn’t want to be president, I think I they would have a different opinion.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I don’t know. It’s a good discussion to have and I bet Biden would be willing to do just that. I have to look at things on a case by case basis and when I do I take Biden for his word. That doesn’t mean I can’t change my mind and I personally don’t know who I want for president right now, but against Trump, yeah I’m voting Biden.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    It's ridiculous that that poll question even exists, considering who is in the White House. Fucking laughable. I am so sick of this stupid Biden story. It's just annoying AF.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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