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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
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    Tiki said:


    I'm still not voting for that creep Joe Biden.  #BACKTHEFUCKUP

    be careful with talk like that around here lol


    Joe might have a slight problem on his hands

    24% after two weeks of bad publicity and still no announcement?  I wouldn't say he has a problem. This is the first national poll I think I've seen.  It would be interesting is emerson has polled before the issue and if Joe moved down. 
    Don't care about the poll #... thats all based on name recognition right now.... i'm.concerned because i see a progressive poster on here saying no chance he votes for him.... there are more Tikis out there i'm betting.... not the smooth takeoff Joe was hoping for
    Tiki - Trump, Biden or stay home?
    And same question to all the progressives here..
    All of us vote Joe over Donald...

    The better question is Joe vs the other Democrats and will he make it to the ticket... i personally think Joe gives the dems the best shot, but i'm worried he could potentially get beat in the primary now 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,962
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:


    I'm still not voting for that creep Joe Biden.  #BACKTHEFUCKUP

    be careful with talk like that around here lol


    Joe might have a slight problem on his hands

    24% after two weeks of bad publicity and still no announcement?  I wouldn't say he has a problem. This is the first national poll I think I've seen.  It would be interesting is emerson has polled before the issue and if Joe moved down. 
    Don't care about the poll #... thats all based on name recognition right now.... i'm.concerned because i see a progressive poster on here saying no chance he votes for him.... there are more Tikis out there i'm betting.... not the smooth takeoff Joe was hoping for
    Tiki - Trump, Biden or stay home?
    And same question to all the progressives here..
    All of us vote Joe over Donald...

    The better question is Joe vs the other Democrats and will he make it to the ticket... i personally think Joe gives the dems the best shot, but i'm worried he could potentially get beat in the primary now 
    Biden all the way. I m still undecided about Beto (I would vote him over trump) , I can’t stand booker.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,720
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:


    I'm still not voting for that creep Joe Biden.  #BACKTHEFUCKUP

    be careful with talk like that around here lol


    Joe might have a slight problem on his hands

    24% after two weeks of bad publicity and still no announcement?  I wouldn't say he has a problem. This is the first national poll I think I've seen.  It would be interesting is emerson has polled before the issue and if Joe moved down. 
    Don't care about the poll #... thats all based on name recognition right now.... i'm.concerned because i see a progressive poster on here saying no chance he votes for him.... there are more Tikis out there i'm betting.... not the smooth takeoff Joe was hoping for
    Tiki - Trump, Biden or stay home?
    And same question to all the progressives here..
    All of us vote Joe over Donald...

    The better question is Joe vs the other Democrats and will he make it to the ticket... i personally think Joe gives the dems the best shot, but i'm worried he could potentially get beat in the primary now 
    That will work itself out. It doesn't matter if the launch was smooth or not or whether progressives love him or not.  We'll figure it out in the primary,  and then coalesce. 

    I interpreted your post that you're worried about Tiki voting in the general.  Im not worried about Biden in that position. If that wasn't your point then all good. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,962
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,720
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    He was the smarter Gary Johnson last cycle.  
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,962
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    He was the smarter Gary Johnson last cycle.  
    That’s right he was his running mate.  I hope kasich announces next. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    The Dem candidate gets my vote.  Just like HRC did.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I don't think that will be Joe.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    mcgruff10 said:
    I hope kasich announces next. 
    The Booker of the right.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    Former Gov of MA. Pretty moderate guy, also bright. I'll be voting for him in the GOP primary. And then I'll vote for whomever has the Dem nomination in the general. #nevertrump 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    edited April 2019
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR54NwK94wA

    Town Hall. Need to sleep though. Up in 6hours.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,797
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR54NwK94wA

    Town Hall. Need to sleep though. Up in 6hours.
    I look forward to fox news providing a town hall for all the Democratic candidates
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    Bernie slayed in that town hall.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,797
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:


    I'm still not voting for that creep Joe Biden.  #BACKTHEFUCKUP

    be careful with talk like that around here lol


    Joe might have a slight problem on his hands

    24% after two weeks of bad publicity and still no announcement?  I wouldn't say he has a problem. This is the first national poll I think I've seen.  It would be interesting is emerson has polled before the issue and if Joe moved down. 
    Don't care about the poll #... thats all based on name recognition right now.... i'm.concerned because i see a progressive poster on here saying no chance he votes for him.... there are more Tikis out there i'm betting.... not the smooth takeoff Joe was hoping for
    Tiki - Trump, Biden or stay home?
    And same question to all the progressives here..
    Not a huge fan of Biden as president.

    If I could vote, no question it would be Biden over Trump. That's a no brainer.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    Tiki said:


    I'm still not voting for that creep Joe Biden.  #BACKTHEFUCKUP

    be careful with talk like that around here lol


    Joe might have a slight problem on his hands

    24% after two weeks of bad publicity and still no announcement?  I wouldn't say he has a problem. This is the first national poll I think I've seen.  It would be interesting is emerson has polled before the issue and if Joe moved down. 
    Don't care about the poll #... thats all based on name recognition right now.... i'm.concerned because i see a progressive poster on here saying no chance he votes for him.... there are more Tikis out there i'm betting.... not the smooth takeoff Joe was hoping for
    Tiki - Trump, Biden or stay home?
    And same question to all the progressives here..
    Not a huge fan of Biden as president.

    If I could vote, no question it would be Biden over Trump. That's a no brainer.
    Yep
    How can this even be a question in a civilized society. 

    "If I could vote, no question it would be for (insert human being) over the dumbest idiot the world has ever produced" 

    haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    edited April 2019
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,945
    edited April 2019
    Fox has put town hall up:


    Here's the link to the event:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ozAACcc8I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnxuzDm7C0

    Self-edited because of rudeness.
    Post edited by benjs on
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    edited April 2019
    benjs said:
    And for those who don't need stupid games, here's the links to the Town Hall in two parts:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ozAACcc8I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnxuzDm7C0


    "Stupid games"? 

    I was watching the Fox clip and copied the link... don't know why some other clip is linked instead... maybe it just switched when I copied or something. I have never seen that clip even that was pasted nstead.

    So sorry for the wrong link -- but I'm not playing *"stupid games". 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,945
    benjs said:
    And for those who don't need stupid games, here's the links to the Town Hall in two parts:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ozAACcc8I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnxuzDm7C0


    "Stupid games"? 

    I was watching the Fox clip and copied the link... don't know why some other clip is linked instead... maybe it just switched when I copied or something. I have never seen that clip even that was pasted nstead.

    So sorry for the wrong link -- but I'm not playing *"stupid games". 
    This is why you don't assume early in the morning - so sorry, Spiritual! Very rude of me.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,682
    jeffbr said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    Former Gov of MA. Pretty moderate guy, also bright. I'll be voting for him in the GOP primary. And then I'll vote for whomever has the Dem nomination in the general. #nevertrump 
    Weld is the first major intra-party challenger against a sitting president since Pat Buchanan took on George H.W. Bush.



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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,351
    Yep glad he’s being challenged in his own party ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,832
    PJ_Soul said:
    jeffbr said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    What do we know about gov weld from Massachusetts?  He just announced he is running against Trump.  
    Former Gov of MA. Pretty moderate guy, also bright. I'll be voting for him in the GOP primary. And then I'll vote for whomever has the Dem nomination in the general. #nevertrump 
    Weld is the first major intra-party challenger against a sitting president since Pat Buchanan took on George H.W. Bush.



    No surprise.  Ten percent of the party is put off that he’s such a clown.  But I don’t see him losing a state primary.  HW didn’t in 1992.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    More importantly, Weld is a Neil Young & Crazy Horse live masterpiece 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    my2hands said:
    More importantly, Weld is a Neil Young & Crazy Horse live masterpiece 
    Is there any NY & CH live release that isn't?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    edited April 2019
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,212
    edited April 2019
    Pete: "I believe in democratic capitalism". What the hell is that. 

    "Democratic Capitalism" sounds like a way to lure moderates and republicans? "DON'T MENTION "SOCIALISM"!. Is it to contrast other candidates like Bernie that is more outspoken progressive and who's not afraid to say that Europe (with its democratic socialistic tradition) does things differently for a good reason (health care etc)?

    Thank god for the Social Democratic values that has run through and shaped this country for the last 100+ years.

    I'M CLOSE TO JUMPING SHIP ON PETE! 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Bernie slayed in that town hall.
    CNN (Erin Burnett) had a former HRC 2016 communications person and a Trump 2020 staffer talking about since how Bernie has amassed such a fortune with his book he's a hypocrite.

    So many realities.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    my2hands said:
    More importantly, Weld is a Neil Young & Crazy Horse live masterpiece 
    Is there any NY & CH live release that isn't?
    Ummmmmmm, no
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