The Democratic Candidates

dignin · April 2019

my2hands said:

Like getting a blowjob from an intern in her early 20's when your the most powerfulman in the world, that just happens to be married, lying about it and essentialy ruining that poor girls life? Bill runs laps around Trump on this front

Bias is on full display up in here

We get it, everyone else is only capable of bias.

Ledbetterman10 · April 2019

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

PJ_Soul · April 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist, and an alleged serial sexual predator in general.

my2hands · April 2019

dignin said:

my2hands said:

Like getting a blowjob from an intern in her early 20's when your the most powerfulman in the world, that just happens to be married, lying about it and essentialy ruining that poor girls life? Bill runs laps around Trump on this front

Bias is on full display up in here

We get it, everyone else is only capable of bias.

I know i have bias, and i try to be honest about it. Sometimes i am successful, sometimes i fall victim to it

Ledbetterman10 · April 2019

PJ_Soul said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist, and an alleged serial sexual predator in general.

Yeah a few people have pointed that out. I had thought his only accusers were the ones that came out in 2016. But there's WAY more...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

dignin · April 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

100% sure that was sarcasm.

Ledbetterman10 · April 2019

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

100% sure that was sarcasm.

lol, yeah no shit. I've been around the internet long enough to know that a response like that is equivalent to like "Cool story, bro" or whatever. So ya try to turn the tables by pretending you're taking him serious so he'll respond "You really think I think that's sweet???" or something. But I guess that's off the table now since you pointed it out.

dignin · April 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

100% sure that was sarcasm.

lol, yeah no shit. I've been around the internet long enough to know that a response like that is equivalent to like "Cool story, bro" or whatever. So ya try to turn the tables by pretending you're taking him serious so he'll respond "You really think I think that's sweet???" or something. But I guess that's off the table now since you pointed it out.

OFF. THE. TABLE!!

Edit: And leave your shoes at the front door.

benjs · April 2019

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

100% sure that was sarcasm.

lol, yeah no shit. I've been around the internet long enough to know that a response like that is equivalent to like "Cool story, bro" or whatever. So ya try to turn the tables by pretending you're taking him serious so he'll respond "You really think I think that's sweet???" or something. But I guess that's off the table now since you pointed it out.

OFF. THE. TABLE!!

Edit: And leave your shoes at the front door.

Gotta say, the vendetta against indoor shoes was one I certainly wasn't counting on in a Trump thread.

mrussel1 · April 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjhawks said:

Meltdown99 said:

Biden is a creep. Overly affection with strangers makes you a creep.

i generally like Biden but I don't know how anyone can see some of these clips of him with woman and girls and not think it's some creepy ass shit. some of that stuff being shown is just...weird.

And that's all stuff that's in front of TV cameras. It may be worse behind the scenes. Someone said above that it was "wacked" that I would lump Biden in with Trump when talking about creeps. But I think there can be different levels of creepiness...

Highest level - Bill Clinton (alleged rapist)
Middle level - Donald Trump (brags that he "grabs women by the pussy")
Lowest level - Joe Biden (overly touchy/feely)

Trump is also an alleged rapist.

Yeah I actually thought that Clinton had been sued by Broderick so I placed him higher than Trump because I thought that was an official court case, and Trump "only" had people coming out and saying it. But a quick glance at the "Bill Clinton sexual misconduct" Wikipedia page shows that I'm actually wrong. Paul Jones sued him for sexual harassment, but he's never been sued for alleged sexual assault. So he and Trump are in the same boat.

Sweet!!

You think it's sweet that two of our most recent presidents are rapists? You've got problems, man.

100% sure that was sarcasm.

lol, yeah no shit. I've been around the internet long enough to know that a response like that is equivalent to like "Cool story, bro" or whatever. So ya try to turn the tables by pretending you're taking him serious so he'll respond "You really think I think that's sweet???" or something. But I guess that's off the table now since you pointed it out.

It's not cool story bro, it's more of... sad that now they are equal on this topic.

Ledbetterman10 · April 2019

benjs said:

dignin said:

OFF. THE. TABLE!!

Edit: And leave your shoes at the front door.

Gotta say, the vendetta against indoor shoes was one I certainly wasn't counting on in a Trump thread.

Like his presidency, there's never any way of telling where things will go next in this thread

Ledbetterman10 · April 2019

mrussel1 said:

It's not cool story bro, it's more of... sad that now they are equal on this topic.

I always took "cool story, bro" as a sarcastic way of saying "it's NOT a cool story and I find your post/comment stupid." And that's how I interpreted you replying "sweet."

Either way, they're both creepy weirdos. It's amazing how some people are so shameless that they can be accused of sexual assault on multiple occasions and walk around like it's no big deal.

mickeyrat · April 2019

my2hands said:

Like getting a blowjob from an intern in her early 20's when your the most powerfulman in the world, that just happens to be married, lying about it and essentialy ruining that poor girls life? Bill runs laps around Trump on this front

Bias is on full display up in here

you should read up on what SHE has to say about it.

Spiritual_Chaos · April 2019

my2hands said:

Like getting a blowjob from an intern in her early 20's when your the most powerfulman in the world, that just happens to be married, lying about it and essentialy ruining that poor girls life? Bill runs laps around Trump on this front

Bias is on full display up in here

That's a trolling amount of reach.

jeffbr · April 2019

mrussel1 said:

Hi! said:

Biden, Sanders seem to be one and two in polls. It’s early, but if this trend continues, does anybody see that being the ticket? I know this was talked about earlier in the thread. I feel it’s a strong ticket, but lacking in diversity which could be a problem. I don’t think age is a huge factor when matched up against T/P, plus I feel Sanders connects with younger voters well.

It will be interesting to see more recent polling to determine if this issue with Biden is damaging. If I were him, I'd do a presser apologizing for any past minor transgressions and promise to be more thoughtful. I would not announce until I saw polling to show how effective that was. I am personally curious to see if progressives are capable of allowing people to grow.

Hey Matt, did you give Joe a call this morning?
Joe Biden, accused of inappropriate physical contact by multiple women, says he will change his behavior

"I want to talk about gestures of support that I’ve made to women and some men that have made them uncomfortable,” Biden said, seated on a couch and speaking directly to the camera. “I’ve always tried to make a human connection that’s my responsibility, I think ... it’s the way I’ve always been, it’s the way I try to show I care about them and listening.”

But despite that, Biden said, he is going to be “mindful” of people’s boundaries going forward.

“The boundaries of protecting personal space have been reset. I get it, I get it, I hear what they’re saying and I understand it,” he said.

mrussel1 · April 2019

I'm a senior adviser, and use this site to poll test theories.

jeffbr · April 2019

mrussel1 said:

I'm a senior adviser, and use this site to poll test theories.

I knew it!

what dreams · April 2019

oftenreading said:

what dreams said:

FWIW, I tend to agree that the jokes/speculation regarding Ivanka and her father are completely inappropriate. If it's true, then the trauma she has experienced is not funny at all, and no survivor of sexual abuse should be re-traumatized in the media by comedians or continuous public scrutiny. I don't think it's right at all.

Who is joking or speculating? It’s not joking or speculating to post the comments he’s made.

If he weren't our infamous president, and he weren't a real estate brand, and his comments were made at a small private party of neighbors, and Ivanka were really being molested by her father, it would be an absolute tragedy for her. The family would be suffering terribly, and I would hope that if any of us learned it was happening, we would either intervene or in the least display empathy and tact when discussing the neighbors. Now as it is, we all think it's gross and creepy -- and yet we gawk and we gawk, and we replay and replay the comments for all to hear, including Ivanka, a potentially real victim.

Just like that little girl in the video shown above, whose parents, I hear, have said publicly that their daughter was not traumatized by the vice-president. But now she goes down in history as the kid who was molested by dirty old Joe Biden. How terrible for that little girl. THINK ABOUT IT -- if you cared that she was being traumatized, would you continue to play over and over the video where she was traumatized, recreating the trauma for the child every time you played it? Why would you do that? Enough. It's sick. Not Joe Biden. People's disgusting fascination with this shit -- that's what's sick, not for one minute thinking anything's wrong with exploiting that little girl in the media. You are all complicit every time you click on the bait.

Hi! · April 2019

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca4f796e4b0ed0d78102058

oftenreading · April 2019

what dreams said:

oftenreading said:

what dreams said:

FWIW, I tend to agree that the jokes/speculation regarding Ivanka and her father are completely inappropriate. If it's true, then the trauma she has experienced is not funny at all, and no survivor of sexual abuse should be re-traumatized in the media by comedians or continuous public scrutiny. I don't think it's right at all.

Who is joking or speculating? It’s not joking or speculating to post the comments he’s made.

If he weren't our infamous president, and he weren't a real estate brand, and his comments were made at a small private party of neighbors, and Ivanka were really being molested by her father, it would be an absolute tragedy for her. The family would be suffering terribly, and I would hope that if any of us learned it was happening, we would either intervene or in the least display empathy and tact when discussing the neighbors. Now as it is, we all think it's gross and creepy -- and yet we gawk and we gawk, and we replay and replay the comments for all to hear, including Ivanka, a potentially real victim.

Just like that little girl in the video shown above, whose parents, I hear, have said publicly that their daughter was not traumatized by the vice-president. But now she goes down in history as the kid who was molested by dirty old Joe Biden. How terrible for that little girl. THINK ABOUT IT -- if you cared that she was being traumatized, would you continue to play over and over the video where she was traumatized, recreating the trauma for the child every time you played it? Why would you do that? Enough. It's sick. Not Joe Biden. People's disgusting fascination with this shit -- that's what's sick, not for one minute thinking anything's wrong with exploiting that little girl in the media. You are all complicit every time you click on the bait.

That's a whole lot of "ifs". And I personally have never thought Ivanka is or was actually being molested. I don't think I've ever seen anyone even claim that; it's just what I think is perfectly normal disgust with his comments. Of course it would be a tragedy if it were true, I just don't think there's any evidence that it is, and I don't think anyone is going to stop talking about situations just because they could potentially be much worse than they appear.

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