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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mrussel1 said:
    I'd love 10 minutes to beat the shit out that fat fuck.  We know he believes that your life is a battery, so he's soft, out of shape, fat and likely has a glass jaw.  God, that would be so great to jab, jab, punch.  
    No picture you're a Republican saying that about Obama, or Hillary. Still cool?

    This joint is in the toilet
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    I can understand that gut visceral feeling of wanting to punch the guy out, but the better, more effective way is to punch him out intellectually.  And when I say "intellectually", I don't mean like a snobbish, boorish intellectual.  I mean by being well spoken, in complete control of one's thoughts, words and body language.  I want somebody to go up against Trump who maintains a high degree of cool, smarts and class.  Trump will make himself look like a fool when matched up with someone like like that.  We need to stop pandering to the anti-intellectual dumb ass Americans.
    Unfortunately I don't think you're correct here. 
    No problemo, M, but how so?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mrussel1 said:
    That was the strategy of his Republican contenders and Hillary.  Didn't work. 
    Ah, I see you answered my question.  I don't think any of the other Republicans nor Hillary had all the right tools that way.  I'm not sure who does.  Maybe Jeff Bridges, but he's not a politician!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    That was the strategy of his Republican contenders and Hillary.  Didn't work. 
    I definitely agree that was the Republican contenders, but the media and Hillary seemed to make it all about Trump and his lack of character Actually, Jeb went after Trump pretty hard during some of the debates and was embarrassingly ineffective. I honestly can’t remember one of Hillary’s policy proposals, I do remember her calling him Putin’s Puppet in a debate.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    my2hands said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I'd love 10 minutes to beat the shit out that fat fuck.  We know he believes that your life is a battery, so he's soft, out of shape, fat and likely has a glass jaw.  God, that would be so great to jab, jab, punch.  
    No picture you're a Republican saying that about Obama, or Hillary. Still cool?

    This joint is in the toilet
    Obama wasn't a bully.  He didn't bully people on twitter and in person.  So to me, Trump is not like a POTUS, he's like a fucking bully that needs his ass kicked after school.  Your analogy doesn't work.  The POTUS is an office that deserves respect when that respect is earned.  He has done nothing to earn that respect.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney.  I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect. 
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney.  I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect. 
    That’s a tough one. I mean, Bush wouldn’t have kids locked up under a bridge in Texas, but the whole Iraq war and having to see bumper stickers that read:Marriage =one man one woman, for two years was annoying. Bush vs. Trump really needs it’s own thread, lol.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney.  I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect. 
    That’s a tough one. I mean, Bush wouldn’t have kids locked up under a bridge in Texas, but the whole Iraq war and having to see bumper stickers that read:Marriage =one man one woman, for two years was annoying. Bush vs. Trump really needs it’s own thread, lol.
    Even Obama was against gay marriage until sometime in '11 or '12 I think.  I don't know factually that W evolved, but I know his mother did as did his father, even going so far as being a signed witness at a gay marriage.  So I would really be surprised if W didn't change.  
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/George-HW-Bush-Served-as-Witness-in-Same-Sex-Marriage-501716201.html
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney.  I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect. 
    That’s a tough one. I mean, Bush wouldn’t have kids locked up under a bridge in Texas, but the whole Iraq war and having to see bumper stickers that read:Marriage =one man one woman, for two years was annoying. Bush vs. Trump really needs it’s own thread, lol.
    Even Obama was against gay marriage until sometime in '11 or '12 I think.  I don't know factually that W evolved, but I know his mother did as did his father, even going so far as being a signed witness at a gay marriage.  So I would really be surprised if W didn't change.  
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/George-HW-Bush-Served-as-Witness-in-Same-Sex-Marriage-501716201.html
    I’m willing to bet W. never actually cared, but used it as a divisive election issue. Obama can say what he wants, I think it wasn’t politically advantageous to be for gay marriage at the time. He faked right and went left.

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Hi! said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
    Yes he approved.  Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens.  Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.  

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And so if you want a comparative, I never wanted to punch Bush in the nose, or Cheney.  I disagreed vehemently with their policies on a host of issues, but Trump does not deserve the same respect. 
    That’s a tough one. I mean, Bush wouldn’t have kids locked up under a bridge in Texas, but the whole Iraq war and having to see bumper stickers that read:Marriage =one man one woman, for two years was annoying. Bush vs. Trump really needs it’s own thread, lol.
    Even Obama was against gay marriage until sometime in '11 or '12 I think.  I don't know factually that W evolved, but I know his mother did as did his father, even going so far as being a signed witness at a gay marriage.  So I would really be surprised if W didn't change.  
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/George-HW-Bush-Served-as-Witness-in-Same-Sex-Marriage-501716201.html
    I’m willing to bet W. never actually cared, but used it as a divisive election issue. Obama can say what he wants, I think it wasn’t politically advantageous to be for gay marriage at the time. He faked right and went left.
    Totally agree, same with Obama.  
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
    Yes he approved.  Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens.  Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.  

    I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I was always under the impression that Navy Seals final orders come from the President...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
    Yes he approved.  Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens.  Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.  

    Look at all those deep state traitors.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
    Yes he approved.  Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens.  Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.  

    Look at all those deep state traitors.
    They don't love America.. I don't see one person hugging a flag.  Not one. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    edited March 2019
    FWIW, re the Biden kissing thing... I have always felt that Biden is simply a bit overly affectionate at times in an innocent way and is a bit of an awkward clod about it. I don't feel that there is anything sexual about it at all, and while poorly executed at times, I think it's actually just him being a nice person. I could be naive about it I guess, but....
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That was the strategy of his Republican contenders and Hillary.  Didn't work. 
    I definitely agree that was the Republican contenders, but the media and Hillary seemed to make it all about Trump and his lack of character Actually, Jeb went after Trump pretty hard during some of the debates and was embarrassingly ineffective. I honestly can’t remember one of Hillary’s policy proposals, I do remember her calling him Putin’s Puppet in a debate.

    Well, in his interview with Bill Maher last night, Pete Buttigieg said exactly that: Dem candidates need to make the election about how they will help average Americans, not about how the orange menace is a horrible person.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,478
    Hi! said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Hi! said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong...but I admired O'Bamas use of the Navy Seals.  They were utilized exceptionally to free Captain Philips and get Bin Laden without major conflict...and I believe no loss of US life or civilian life.
    I guess Obama gets credit for that because he was president at the time. Did he have to approve the raid? I don’t know. He had to approve the bin laden operations I’m sure. But really the military should be getting all the props on that.
    Yes he approved.  Here's the famous pic of the security team watching the raid as it happens.  Notice he isn't wearing any self promoting attire.  

    I like the one where he’s holding the Nintendo controller better, lol. I actually looked up the captain phillips thing too and did a quick glance at an article. He approved the operation and laid down 2 guiding principles and I think the Military took it from there.
    Hey grandma, it's a Dual Shock controller. Not everything video game related is "a nintendo".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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