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And yet Team Trump Treason tweets “full exoneration” when his own AG stated in his brief that it didn’t “fully exonorate” him. Seems Team Trump Treason is conflicted.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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So, you don't understand that an obstruction of justice charge refers to the act of obstructing an ongoing investigation, and not whether anyone is guilty of the original charge? That's unfortunate.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Totally agree.Ledbetterman10 said:I'm happy to see there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. I'd wager a guess that Russia did interfere in the election in some ways, and did want Trump to win, but if he wasn't in cahoots with them, that's a good thing.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
What has finding evidence to a crime or not to do with the investigation of a crime. and the obstruction of that investigation?BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
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You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.I LOVE MUSIC.
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BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Just stop.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Barr is quoting Muller when he says that the report doesn't exonerate Trump. It's not Barr's opinion.oftenreading said:BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
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I know that. He’s the only source of that information at present, though.Ledbetterman10 said:
Barr is quoting Muller when he says that the report doesn't exonerate Trump. It's not Barr's opinion.oftenreading said:BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
In a four-page letter to Congress, Attorney General William Barr said Mueller's report "does not exonerate" the president on obstruction and instead "sets out evidence on both sides of the question."
Well, Barr says it. I guess he would know. He's the only one who's read the report.
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I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.mfc2006 said:
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.0 -
They have nothing to with each other. Yet it is still hilarious to watch you all argue that point.Spiritual_Chaos said:
What has finding evidence to a crime or not to do with the investigation of a crime. and the obstruction of that investigation?BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.0 -
From what's been released, Mueller did not find evidence that the campaign "conspired or co-ordinated" with Russia.Ledbetterman10 said:I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump from the completely different issue of obstruction of justice - i.e. whether he acted to interfere in the judicial process in some way. Apparently he saw some evidence for and some against, and leaves it to Barr to decide whether to proceed with obstruction charges.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
But yet, you don't understand what obstruction means.BS44325 said:
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.mfc2006 said:
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
He exonerated him on conspiracy. He did not exonerate on obstruction.Ledbetterman10 said:I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.0 -
I see. Well I doubt Barr would do that. And really, why bother? Trump is a walking obstruction of justice lol.oftenreading said:
From what's been released, Mueller did not find evidence that the campaign "conspired or co-ordinated" with Russia.Ledbetterman10 said:I'm confused as to how Mueller can find no evidence of a Trump/Russia conspiracy, yet won't exonerate him.
Mueller did not exonerate Trump from the completely different issue of obstruction of justice - i.e. whether he acted to interfere in the judicial process in some way. Apparently he saw some evidence for and some against, and leaves it to Barr to decide whether to proceed with obstruction charges.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Says the guy who still believes the Steele Dossier was the impetus for an investigation into Team Trump Treason and his campaign.BS44325 said:
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.mfc2006 said:
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.
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Oh I completely understand. Barr and Rosenstein do as well. That is why they put in the report that having committed no crim the obstruction charge does not make sense. But please...all of you...continue. I hope it goes on forever. Bring on the Southern District of New York as well.oftenreading said:
But yet, you don't understand what obstruction means.BS44325 said:
I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.mfc2006 said:
You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.BS44325 said:
I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.bootlegger10 said:
I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged. So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.Lerxst1992 said:bootlegger10 said:What a colossal failure of the media. We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting. The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.
Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news. They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.
I wouldn't blame this on the media:
"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice."The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."
Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?
To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.
So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.
Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released.
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Is this the only investigation? Just curious.0
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