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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,588
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    At least with Sanders President, I can hear his speeches from my back yard.  Spare us.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,146
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

    From October 18th? Back when repubs still had both houses of Congress. So, who’s been charged and indicted? Faux News misrepresentin’, yo!
     
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    edited March 2019
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

    FFS, at least have the sense to not post a Fox News link. Nobody's going to trust that, for good reason. Yes, that's right. The "left wing" news is reporting it too. Of course. And without a Foxy spin. 


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  • njnancy
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

    Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group[1] and self-styled watchdog group[2][3] that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct by government officials.

    Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, and Hillary Clinton, although it has sued Republicans as well including the administration of George W. Bush. It has also filed lawsuits against government climate scientists; Judicial Watch has described climate science as "fraud science". The group has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, which have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. The vast majority of its lawsuits have been dismissed.[1]

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    PJ_Soul said:
    benjs said:
    One picture is a person with a sign. The other is a person with a fucking severed head. Is this conversation for real? Am I missing something?
    .... It's not a real severed head, lol. Yes, I think you're missing something. You seem to think that the conversation is about the shock-level of the subject. It's not.
    Thanks for clarifying - here I was under the impression the person in the oval office was an imposter because I thought Griffin truly beheaded Trump. 

    That woman's sign is not worthy of condemnation, it's worthy of a laugh. And no - I don't think the conversation is about the shock level of the subject, I think it's about proportional responses to words/actions. I feel that 'no comment' is exactly the proportional response appropriate for an idiot with a meaningless sign and will now practice what I preach and stop wasting my time on this. You guys have fun.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

    "Media sources on the right?" I read the WSJ when I can. Your links? Not so much.

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    Founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate alleged misconduct by government officials. They primarily target Democrats such as the Clinton’s, Obama and climate scientists as they label climate science, “fraud science.” Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed. They describe themselves as “a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.” The current President of JW is Tom Fitton.

    Funded by / Ownership

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    Analysis / Bias

    Judicial Watch reports news on their website with the use of strong emotional language that is usually pro-right or anti-left. Common topics covered are anti-immigration, in which they highlight crimes committed by illegal immigrants such as this: Busy Month for Illegal Immigrants Committing Heinous Crimes or dedicating an entire website to exposing former President Obama’s alleged IRS scandal. They have also promoted debunked conspiracy theories such as this. Further, the founder of JW, Larry Klayman recently promoted the conspiracy that the Clinton’s were killing people. In general the majority of content and story selection is anti-left.

    A factual search reveals a horrible track record with fact checking. Below is a small sample of their failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers

    Overall, we rate Judicial Watch Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories and a very poor fact check record. (7/19/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 7/23/2018)

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    It's my fault that stupid picture is even being talked about. Shoulda went with Antifa Protesters in retrospect. 
    Nah, it's a good conversation and was appropriate.  We've had better arguments around here the last few days.  Much less name calling.  I'm sure Kat's heart is warmed by it.  
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    It's my fault that stupid picture is even being talked about. Shoulda went with Antifa Protesters in retrospect. 
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    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Like fascism is good...
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Haha. Trump has something like 13 investigations (that we know about) surrounding him and here you are going on about BENGHAZI!!

    Let it go.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,667
    benjs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    benjs said:
    One picture is a person with a sign. The other is a person with a fucking severed head. Is this conversation for real? Am I missing something?
    .... It's not a real severed head, lol. Yes, I think you're missing something. You seem to think that the conversation is about the shock-level of the subject. It's not.
    Thanks for clarifying - here I was under the impression the person in the oval office was an imposter because I thought Griffin truly beheaded Trump. 

    That woman's sign is not worthy of condemnation, it's worthy of a laugh. And no - I don't think the conversation is about the shock level of the subject, I think it's about proportional responses to words/actions. I feel that 'no comment' is exactly the proportional response appropriate for an idiot with a meaningless sign and will now practice what I preach and stop wasting my time on this. You guys have fun.
    I wish it were an imposter - I think I would find that comforting! ;)
    I figure the real story behind that sign is that 1) MAGA fans feel the need for safe space (ironically), and whether or not the reason they feel that way is justified (in other words, is the backlash against the MAGA fans justified), and 2) how MAGA fans now think Dems are all psycho and/or socialist.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,588
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    dignin said:
    There is an argument to be made that playing by the rules makes you a loser. Republicans gave up on the rules years ago and continue to win where it matters. Democrats can hang their hat on their high morals and will probably still lose. Historically the whole political spectrum in the US has been shifted right. The right is winning the war by playing dirty.

    The argument is that you can't win against a moraly corrupt GOP if you continue to play by the rules and expect them to meet you halfway. All while the left continues to eat its own over petty stuff. I totally understand what Halifax is saying.
    The Lisa Page testimony just released yesterday says that the Obama DOJ overruled the FBI on charging Hillary. So who exactly is playing by the rules?
    Given who I'm hearing this from I need a source.
    Don't you read the news?
    lol your back and when is HRC getting convicted since the Baffoon is off the hook as far as your concerned..
    Is this what you were waiting for Jose?

    https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-announces-depositions-of-senior-obama-era-officials-and-former-hillary-clinton-aides/

    The court ordered depositions were just announced.
    Who ? 
    As most of you ignore any media sources on the right I'm not surprised that this is news to you all. Here's some backstory on the federal judge's ruling and the upcoming depositions if you are interested in bringing yourselves up to speed...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-provided-clearly-false-statements-to-derail-hillary-clinton-doc-requests-federal-judge-says

    lol thanks for the laugh ..
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,588
    BS is missing for months he comes back with Benghazi stories ok let me know when the convictions happen..
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Every time I open the Moving Train up and see a lot of posts on this thread, I know it's mostly going to be infighting and hair-splitting on who said what about whom.  (Not sure I nailed the who/whom there.)
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  • BS44325
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    Your collective responses are so telling. Are any of you capable of introspection? Completely serious question. A federal judge ordered under oath depositions. It is irrelevant that Judicial Watch is the one requesting the depositions other then it allows you to look away under some type of “they’re conservative!” lens. And yes...Fox News reported it. But you can’t trust them because they reported a story on a judges order? As PJSoul correctly pointed out the Washington Post reported on this story as well. Nothing to “trust” or “not trust”. A judge is ordering unde oath depositions because members of the Obama State Department lied. You all constantly laugh “when is someone being locked up? Benghazi is stupid! But the emails!”. And what I’m pointing out is that the truth is coming. It is on it’s way. Look away if you don’t have the stomach. But don’t pretend it doesn’t exist. You will be forced to eat your vegetables.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    Tiki said:
    It's my fault that stupid picture is even being talked about. Shoulda went with Antifa Protesters in retrospect. 

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    BS44325 said:
    Your collective responses are so telling. Are any of you capable of introspection? Completely serious question. A federal judge ordered under oath depositions. It is irrelevant that Judicial Watch is the one requesting the depositions other then it allows you to look away under some type of “they’re conservative!” lens. And yes...Fox News reported it. But you can’t trust them because they reported a story on a judges order? As PJSoul correctly pointed out the Washington Post reported on this story as well. Nothing to “trust” or “not trust”. A judge is ordering unde oath depositions because members of the Obama State Department lied. You all constantly laugh “when is someone being locked up? Benghazi is stupid! But the emails!”. And what I’m pointing out is that the truth is coming. It is on it’s way. Look away if you don’t have the stomach. But don’t pretend it doesn’t exist. You will be forced to eat your vegetables.
    Over 13 investigations. You may want to get prepared for your veggies too.
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