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    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,718
    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 
    Will either of them concede? One side will blame China, the other will blame Russia. I’m not looking forward to the last two months of this year. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    nicknyr15 said:
    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 
    Will either of them concede? One side will blame China, the other will blame Russia. I’m not looking forward to the last two months of this year. 

    If Biden loses close swing states like Hilary did last time, he will concede, depending on the status of mail in ballots.

    remember its 2020 and it’s all about covid, as you know too well, including how the election will be decided. This means mail in ballots are everything. If Dems are too worried to show up in person and “mail it in” it could cost Biden the election 

    If trump is ahead by less than 1% in a few close swing states, but there are tens of thousands of uncounted mail in ballots , I’d expect him to seek a court injunction to stop the mail counts and claim victory. Since the constitution favors republicans (state legislators name the electors  and they’re all republican in swing states) it’s about delaying past the deadline to count and then claiming victory.

    Biden needs to be aggressive about this in the debates, to plant the seed in everybody’s mind that stopping legal vote counting is un-American, what dictators do and will lead to an illegitimate process. He must emphasize mail in ballots are legal and ANY court challenge must be immediately thrown out by every judge until AFTER the states count all ballots in accordance with the laws.
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    nicknyr15 said:
    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 
    Will either of them concede? One side will blame China, the other will blame Russia. I’m not looking forward to the last two months of this year. 
    Biden is not the problem you can’t put him in the same boat as the Covidiot just can’t! 
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    nicknyr15 said:
    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 
    Will either of them concede? One side will blame China, the other will blame Russia. I’m not looking forward to the last two months of this year. 
    I don't know but I tend to think neither really wants to be President. Trump doesn't want to lose ("Only losers lose") and loves having power, but after these four years, he'd probably prefer to be golfing every day and making WWE appearances. And Biden may just feel a duty to take out Trump, because as we've seen over the past four years, but congressionally and in the primary, he's the only one in his party capable of doing it. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    totally agree. i remember seeing a clip of i think eric trump on fox news saying don's life is miserable as president. and biden is of course doing it just to get trump out. no doubt in my mind he'll only do one term if congress is in firm grasp of democrats. 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,221
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I am so freaking excited for the first debate next week! You guys too?
    Meh.. I hate debates that are zinger contests.  I'd rather a one on one with Tim Russert for an hour or two.  Or Chris Wallace.  
    Those would be good too! I just like how objective the debates are. You get the same question (hopefully) asked in the same way to each person.  You have the nerves of being live with no teleprompters or help, no breaks, and it’s 90 minutes!  That’s a long time for anyone- shit, I’m betting that Biden only stays rational for 45 minutes of it- 90 minutes standing is way too long for him, he’ll get pissed at all the Trump jabs at him that he’ll fly off the handle quickly.  Trump will go off tangent/off topic because he just babbles and babbles, it’s seriously going to be a hoot.  Entertainment value is high when two old white guys argue.  Shit, I’m guessing that Biden will contradict himself at least 5 times with things he said earlier in the 90 minutes. Getting old isn’t a pretty sight.
    this narrative is getting tired. it's based in no reality. 
    I was just typing my thoughts on it, not sure what narrative it ended up being but if it was that’s cool too. 

    I hope he calls trump a dog faced pony boy at some point and they insult battle.  I know Joe has a bunch of good ones he wants to let fly and I say do it. I’m in it for the laughs, personally.  We all already know who we’re voting for- who cares how badly they do other than for comedic relief?!  I wonder if Chris Wallace will ask Biden about this Moscow mayor wife thing and hunter getting 3.5M from her.  I bet if he doesn’t Trump is going to throw Hunter out there just to fuck with Biden, it’ll be fun to watch how Joe reacts.
    the "biden is losing his mind" narrative. 
    which is a Russian narrative meant to disrupt and interfere with our election process according to US intel. So any conservative pushing that narrative has become Putin's puppet. I remember when conservatives hated the Soviets, but I guess those good ol' days are over. Now conservatives work for them.
    WAIT.  WHAT???

    thats just tin foil hat insane.  You’re saying that it’s not a normal thing for someone who is 77 years old to show signs of a mental decline and that those who believe a 77 year old could be having deteriorating cognitive effects due to age are Putin’s puppets? 
    Oh man, you’re going to have an uncomfortable evening next Tuesday.

    They’ve hid him from the hard questions, kept him in the basement as long as they could, and had pre rehearsed reporters ask pre screened questions, not to mention have campaign members not answer simple questions about whether or not he uses a teleprompter at briefings (hint: he does, he should never have held up the glossy photo during his interview that reflected the teleprompter), and you’re assuming everything’s fine and he’s just one of probably less than 5% of the public who doesn’t show any cognitive change at his age....  

    (Guess I should let Vlad know it’s not working on you)
    Joe is lucid and certainly more able to put together complete sentences than your guy. Joe can also walk down ramps and drink water with one hand, unlike your guy. If we're talking about cognitive decline, perhaps the candidate who bragged about acing a cognitive test is the one we should be concerned about. Person Woman Man Camera TV Covfefe.
    Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden can also burn rubber in his automobile. And shift. When was the last time Team Trump Treason drove anything other than a golf cart, golf ball or Melania?
    He hasn't driven Melania since the night Barron was conceived. She's skeeved out by him just like the rest of us, but she has her shovel deep in the ground digging for gold.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,000
    edited September 2020

    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 

    He will leave. We don't just let people sit in power because they don't want to leave. They will forcefully drag him out if it comes to that, the secret service Is not there to serve him at that point. But I believe he will leave on his own to save the embarrassment of being physically dragged out.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mace1229 said:

    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 

    He will leave. We don't just let people sit in power because they don't want to leave. They will forcefully drag him out if it comes to that, the secret service Is not there to serve him at that point. But I believe he will leave on his own to save the embarrassment of being physically dragged out.
    He's going to challenge the mail in voting and try to throw the popular vote out at the state level, leaving it to the legislature to determine the fate of the electors in certain states (like PA, FL, etc.)  The groundwork is already being set in PA through discussions with the state chairs.  He's claiming fraud on something that has not even happened yet.  It's repulsive. 
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    mace1229 said:

    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 

    He will leave. We don't just let people sit in power because they don't want to leave. They will forcefully drag him out if it comes to that, the secret service Is not there to serve him at that point. But I believe he will leave on his own to save the embarrassment of being physically dragged out.
    I have no doubt about this.  I am concerned about what Joe and Jill Doe with their massive weapons cache built up in their racist American home might do though.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,954
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:

    He again has stated he will not transfer power peacefully who here still doubts that he will not be leaving office come 1/21, this country will fall into chaos and Putin has just about completed his mission! 

    He will leave. We don't just let people sit in power because they don't want to leave. They will forcefully drag him out if it comes to that, the secret service Is not there to serve him at that point. But I believe he will leave on his own to save the embarrassment of being physically dragged out.
    He's going to challenge the mail in voting and try to throw the popular vote out at the state level, leaving it to the legislature to determine the fate of the electors in certain states (like PA, FL, etc.)  The groundwork is already being set in PA through discussions with the state chairs.  He's claiming fraud on something that has not even happened yet.  It's repulsive. 
    I heard some discussion this morning that the states cannot make decisions like that without Congress.  No idea if that is true or not.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    edited September 2020
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,954
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
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    I found great satisfaction in that  vote him out chant honestly..A good dose of reality that he definitely heard
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
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    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
    this isn't about him. this is about respecting her and the occasion. i wish some liberals would stop making absolutely everything about him. respect the occasion. is that so hard?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,582
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    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
    this isn't about him. this is about respecting her and the occasion. i wish some liberals would stop making absolutely everything about him. respect the occasion. is that so hard?
    RBG wouldn't have a problem with it. Team Trump Treason is not "normal." Like his presence there was out of respect? Give me a break.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
    this isn't about him. this is about respecting her and the occasion. i wish some liberals would stop making absolutely everything about him. respect the occasion. is that so hard?
    RBG wouldn't have a problem with it. Team Trump Treason is not "normal." Like his presence there was out of respect? Give me a break.
    again, not sure how you both seem to know what RBG would have thought. 

    i know he's not normal. you aren't getting it. it's not about him. it's about HER and respecting the moment. 
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    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
    this isn't about him. this is about respecting her and the occasion. i wish some liberals would stop making absolutely everything about him. respect the occasion. is that so hard?
    RBG wouldn't have a problem with it. Team Trump Treason is not "normal." Like his presence there was out of respect? Give me a break.
    again, not sure how you both seem to know what RBG would have thought. 

    i know he's not normal. you aren't getting it. it's not about him. it's about HER and respecting the moment. 
    I don't consider booing Team Trump Treason or chanting "vote him out" at RBG repose as disrespectful of RBG. Something about her tells me that she would celebrate speaking truth to power.
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    ParksyParksy Posts: 1,675
    I believe it was perfectly fine to boo him.  I can't speak to whether RBG would have approved or disapproved... but this coward should get booed anywhere he goes in public sight that isn't one of this circus rallies. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    and you're basing that assertion on what exactly?
    I agree with Gern, Team trump Treason doesn't deserve, warrant or command any respect whatsoever, regardless of the occasion.
    this isn't about him. this is about respecting her and the occasion. i wish some liberals would stop making absolutely everything about him. respect the occasion. is that so hard?
    RBG wouldn't have a problem with it. Team Trump Treason is not "normal." Like his presence there was out of respect? Give me a break.
    again, not sure how you both seem to know what RBG would have thought. 

    i know he's not normal. you aren't getting it. it's not about him. it's about HER and respecting the moment. 
    Ouija board... that simple. 
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    Yea, RBG is spinning because Team Trump Treason was booed and had to listen to chants of 'vote him out."

    I had a friend who seriously would freak out and demand it be put away whenever the Ouija board was broken out.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,820
    i forgot about the fact that the state legislators aren't beholden to choose electors based on the vote; trump and his team are reportedly working on a contingency plan that would get republican held battleground states to appoint electors not based on the vote in those states, and it would perfectly legal under the constitution. there are 6 states that fall into this category. 

    jesus christ democracy in the US is at a point when it might crumble. 
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    +1 Like. 
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    Kat said:
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    Disagree....RBG would have loved it.
    +1 Like. 
    He made that bed by how he treats everyone else. I wish it was different but this is his reality.
    Thank you, Notorious RBG, and I think she would be fine with it.
    Stay safe all.


    One of the best ways to honour her legacy is to speak out against Trump and what he stands for at every opportunity. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,152
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    i disagree. he deserves to hear this every time he sticks his orange head out in public. he needs to get out of the bubble of his adoring and stupid crowds at his rallies and see how the majority of americans feel. he needs to know that he is hated.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    i disagree. he deserves to hear this every time he sticks his orange head out in public. he needs to get out of the bubble of his adoring and stupid crowds at his rallies and see how the majority of americans feel. he needs to know that he is hated.
    Agreed. We're past the point where common decency and decorum is expected. And Trump needs to hear loudly and clearly that some of us hate him (yes, I intentionally use that word, and yes, I do feel a hatred for that piece of shit). He surrounds himself with yes men and sychophants, and his public appearances these days are typically limited to rallies with his idiot cult members, so he needs a taste of what non-cult members actually think about him.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,402
    edited September 2020
    i wish these fucking idiots would understand there's a time and a place for everything. this wasn't it. 
    i disagree. he deserves to hear this every time he sticks his orange head out in public. he needs to get out of the bubble of his adoring and stupid crowds at his rallies and see how the majority of americans feel. he needs to know that he is hated.
    Yup. This is someone with very low approval, who very rarely is in a situation that he has to face those who do not adore him. According a reporter, this is the first time since January that Trump has appeared in a public setting. 
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