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mickeyrat said:emotions need tempered. all too often on antisocial media , folks lead with their emotions on a given topic or event and all too often something is missed.I think the more emotionally enraged/engaged on a subject it has the inverse effect of critical thinking lessening.at first blush I was kinda offended at not being tagged (included in the group). But is it really that important in the grand scheme of things? I have decided that no it isnt. at all.good vibes requested for a former member , i shit and i stink who lost his mother to cancer this morning.Post edited by stuckinline on0
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mcgruff10 said:You are completely wrong Del. Just because you have a MAGA hat doesn’t mean you support all of trump’s policies. I voted for Obama twice and had his election stickers on my truck. Does that automatically mean that I was for gun control? Obviously the answer is no. Don’t paint everyone with a broad stroke because if you do then you are just like the president you despise.0
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Halifax2TheMax said:The thing about wearing a MAGA hat for me is that the wearer is endorsing a POTUS who lies 15 times a day on average, who’s policies are not grounded in reality and are based on lies, who has denigrated every aspect of our democratic republic, only cares about himself and who has colluded with a foreign power to undermine and steal an election, among many other transgressions (good people on both sides, etc.) There is no peeling away single issues, like gun control or tax policy, from what that hat represents. Furthermore, I highly doubt that facts, reasoning or any kind of attempt at trying to persuade them with reason is going to change their viewpoint. The only thing left is ridicule, scorn, contempt and shunning. They’re lost.Even excellenter post0
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:You are completely wrong Del. Just because you have a MAGA hat doesn’t mean you support all of trump’s policies. I voted for Obama twice and had his election stickers on my truck. Does that automatically mean that I was for gun control? Obviously the answer is no. Don’t paint everyone with a broad stroke because if you do then you are just like the president you despise.
Okay so then seriously tell me this: which Trump policies would a MAGA hat wearing guy support that are respectable? What about Trump should a person like me take into consideration when judging a guy that endorses him with a hat or tattoo on his ass?
What have I missed about McDonald that I should respect?
Anyone?
Can anyone list two items of relative significance that we can credit Trump for so that I might be able to respect a MAGA hat wearer? Exactly what is the upside to this guy and why should I respect him and his followers?
Halifax listed a bunch of items that lend credit to my initial assertion. Is there anything to the contrary (outside of Hillary) that speaks to the value of Trump?
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:You are completely wrong Del. Just because you have a MAGA hat doesn’t mean you support all of trump’s policies. I voted for Obama twice and had his election stickers on my truck. Does that automatically mean that I was for gun control? Obviously the answer is no. Don’t paint everyone with a broad stroke because if you do then you are just like the president you despise.
Okay so then seriously tell me this: which Trump policies would a MAGA hat wearing guy support that are respectable? What about Trump should a person like me take into consideration when judging a guy that endorses him with a hat or tattoo on his ass?
What have I missed about McDonald that I should respect?
Anyone?
Can anyone list two items of relative significance that we can credit Trump for so that I might be able to respect a MAGA hat wearer? Exactly what is the upside to this guy and why should I respect him and his followers?
Halifax listed a bunch of items that lend credit to my initial assertion. Is there anything to the contrary (outside of Hillary) that speaks to the value of Trump?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:You are completely wrong Del. Just because you have a MAGA hat doesn’t mean you support all of trump’s policies. I voted for Obama twice and had his election stickers on my truck. Does that automatically mean that I was for gun control? Obviously the answer is no. Don’t paint everyone with a broad stroke because if you do then you are just like the president you despise.
Okay so then seriously tell me this: which Trump policies would a MAGA hat wearing guy support that are respectable? What about Trump should a person like me take into consideration when judging a guy that endorses him with a hat or tattoo on his ass?
What have I missed about McDonald that I should respect?
Anyone?
Can anyone list two items of relative significance that we can credit Trump for so that I might be able to respect a MAGA hat wearer? Exactly what is the upside to this guy and why should I respect him and his followers?
Halifax listed a bunch of items that lend credit to my initial assertion. Is there anything to the contrary (outside of Hillary) that speaks to the value of Trump?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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mcgruff10 said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:mcgruff10 said:You are completely wrong Del. Just because you have a MAGA hat doesn’t mean you support all of trump’s policies. I voted for Obama twice and had his election stickers on my truck. Does that automatically mean that I was for gun control? Obviously the answer is no. Don’t paint everyone with a broad stroke because if you do then you are just like the president you despise.
Okay so then seriously tell me this: which Trump policies would a MAGA hat wearing guy support that are respectable? What about Trump should a person like me take into consideration when judging a guy that endorses him with a hat or tattoo on his ass?
What have I missed about McDonald that I should respect?
Anyone?
Can anyone list two items of relative significance that we can credit Trump for so that I might be able to respect a MAGA hat wearer? Exactly what is the upside to this guy and why should I respect him and his followers?
Halifax listed a bunch of items that lend credit to my initial assertion. Is there anything to the contrary (outside of Hillary) that speaks to the value of Trump?
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I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
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OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
Looks like both sides worked together here.
I'll accept this as one. It's significant.
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Thirty Bills Unpaid said:brianlux said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If people cannot understand the symbolism of the MAGA hat then that is on them. It’s not a challenging item of information to misinterpret.
It’s one thing to support McDonald and his dogshit mess in the hopes that maybe there’s method in the madness... it’s a whole other thing to proudly flaunt it.
In my mind, one can safely be stereotyped wearing a MAGA hat. One cannot safely be stereotyped by the basis of their skin colour.I pretty much agree with everything you said her, Thirty. But maybe a good question to ask is, What will more likely change the perspective of someone who wears a MAGA hat- ridiculing someone you don't know much about other than a quick glimpse on social media or educating them about the reality of the fact that Trump and his supporters are generally making America worse, not great?Don't get me wrong, I have the save gut reaction to anyone wearing a MAGA hat- "You're an idiot!" But telling them that might not be the best way to change their mind or reverse the tide of what many of us see as an ever worsening of America. It's easy to do the former, damn hard to do the latter. I'm sometimes guilty of making the wrong choice that way.
Honestly Brian... I don't think there is any changing a MAGA guy. I think their character has been forged from day one and they are as set in their ways as anyone could be.
I think the real question is how do you keep someone from becoming a MAGA guy before they become a MAGA guy (even if upbringing is somewhat damning)?
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brianlux said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:brianlux said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:If people cannot understand the symbolism of the MAGA hat then that is on them. It’s not a challenging item of information to misinterpret.
It’s one thing to support McDonald and his dogshit mess in the hopes that maybe there’s method in the madness... it’s a whole other thing to proudly flaunt it.
In my mind, one can safely be stereotyped wearing a MAGA hat. One cannot safely be stereotyped by the basis of their skin colour.I pretty much agree with everything you said her, Thirty. But maybe a good question to ask is, What will more likely change the perspective of someone who wears a MAGA hat- ridiculing someone you don't know much about other than a quick glimpse on social media or educating them about the reality of the fact that Trump and his supporters are generally making America worse, not great?Don't get me wrong, I have the save gut reaction to anyone wearing a MAGA hat- "You're an idiot!" But telling them that might not be the best way to change their mind or reverse the tide of what many of us see as an ever worsening of America. It's easy to do the former, damn hard to do the latter. I'm sometimes guilty of making the wrong choice that way.
Honestly Brian... I don't think there is any changing a MAGA guy. I think their character has been forged from day one and they are as set in their ways as anyone could be.
I think the real question is how do you keep someone from becoming a MAGA guy before they become a MAGA guy (even if upbringing is somewhat damning)?
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OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
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Halifax2TheMax said:OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
But my gosh, there’s some truth to the theme. I gave Trump about the only nod I could think of and you essentially called me a racist.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:Halifax2TheMax said:OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
But my gosh, there’s some truth to the theme. I gave Trump about the only nod I could think of and you essentially called me a racist.
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I’m not really giving him lots of credit. All he really did was sign a rare bipartisan bill. The only other positive thing I can think of is his cameo on the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Again the point is you can give him credit and still be horrified by the whole treasonous circus.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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OnWis97 said:I’m not really giving him lots of credit. All he really did was sign a rare bipartisan bill. The only other positive thing I can think of is his cameo on the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
Again the point is you can give him credit and still be horrified by the whole treasonous circus.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
I wonder if even a single MAGA hat wearing individual would list “prison reform” as feature of Trump’s platform that they like, though.
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oftenreading said:OnWis97 said:I am with him on the prison reform bill he signed. This isn’t enough to make me think he isn’t horrible, but I am with him.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2373992002
I wonder if even a single MAGA hat wearing individual would list “prison reform” as feature of Trump’s platform that they like, though.
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Still waiting on another. It won’t be coming. I think the point has been made: you can make some pretty safe assumptions about MAGAs.
To clarify... I don’t think it would be fair to say one can safely stereotype any Trump supporter- just the really enthusiastic ones that wear the team gear.
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