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  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    The vinyl was the only reason why I was analog. My renewal is in January, going digital now. 
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  • rw160510
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rw160510 said:
    I've wondered for a while why they didn't think to bash out a few covers during sound checks when on tour. Record them live without any audience then release the best two. A bit like rem did with original tracks on new adventures in hifi. At least they would be full band performances. If they that once a year that would have kept me happy for a couple of years in light of the lack of new material.
    the 2011 single was exactly this. 
    Oh
     yeah. Thanks for reminding me I'd genuinely forgotten :) Nothing wrong with the concept though and on the whole it would probably have kept people happy for the most part.
  • skanji32
    skanji32 Posts: 592
    First time posting in the forums in years. Came back to share my feelings on this decision. 

    Really disappointed in the band for this from a variety of perspectives. 

    Not so much for the decision, but lack of explanation as to why this decision was made. Through the years there has been zero accountability for the lack of production timelines on these xmas singles.

    In addition as fans, we are paying the exact same amount annually, without explanation as to what (if anything) will be replacing it.

    Top it all off, on then sharing this news between Christmas and New Years, and it’s a significant hiccup from what we’ve come to expect from the band.

    I wish 10c would understand how the lack of communication translates directly to their organization that they are leading. The way you communicate (or choose not to), will be judged by stakeholders and reflects back not only on you, but the entire organization you lead.

    Not leaving, and likely never will, but really, really disappointed in this decision, and the lack of communication and detail around it, especially over the holidays. 
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  • evdjj3j
    evdjj3j Old Mountains Posts: 114
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it really shouldn't come as a surprise. they clearly haven't given a shit about this for some time. 
    You hit the nail on the head. Is the analog version going away? 
  • evdjj3j
    evdjj3j Old Mountains Posts: 114
    BF25394 said:
    "Viva la vinyl."  Et tu, Eddie?
    What a pathetic joke.  Why do I have a feeling I'm never going to see the physical singles that this message is promising "once physical production is complete"?
    I have the same feeling, they already screwed us analog members a few times in the last few years on singles and Deep. I'm not really sure how they justify not fulfilling those and not giving a refund. 
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 993
    If that's it then I'd like to see them all put together in one compilation package. I know some are on Lost Dogs but it would be nice to have them all on CD and/or a vinyl box. Both only available to 10C members-hell instead of the 10C shirt why not have the CD version be the analog item instead of a t shirt?
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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Time to switch to digital, I guess.
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  • stef1885
    stef1885 Posts: 25
    I really hope 10c doesn't go the way that the 'Metclub' went.  They removed all memberships benefits and basically disbanded the Metallica Fan Club, there were no fees to join, as no fan club, the only item left was priority tickets to those who had been in the Metclub previously.  Cynically / realistically! some Metallica fans thought this was all to save costs and 'effort' as a new company had been bought in to take over the running of the fanclub.  I don't know how close PJ members are to running 10c these days but i really hope they are aware of any changes being implemented. Stef1885.
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  • jheal
    jheal Posts: 25
    The cold hard reality is that the band probably spend very little time together collectively anymore, outside of the few weeks they tour together, to record ANY new material let alone tracks for a fan club single. And the output has been diminishing over time. It’s auto-pilot revenue generation mode at the moment. I’m not sure how old all the band’s kids are - I hope in a few years when they have a bit more time on their hands and the kids are out the house they get back to spending more time on the band, songwriting and stuff like that. In a way, we’re lucky they haven’t broken up and just taken their foot off the gas. I’d echo the same concerns over what an Analog membership means now - I’d accept a physical CD bootleg of my choice each year as a replacement for a vinyl single!
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    JT167846 said:
    If that's it then I'd like to see them all put together in one compilation package. I know some are on Lost Dogs but it would be nice to have them all on CD and/or a vinyl box. Both only available to 10C members-hell instead of the 10C shirt why not have the CD version be the analog item instead of a t shirt?
    Yeah. Free merch for them and cool for us to have them all in a vinyl package. 
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  • PJWGIII
    PJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 811
    edited December 2018
    jheal said:
    The cold hard reality is that the band probably spend very little time together collectively anymore, outside of the few weeks they tour together, to record ANY new material let alone tracks for a fan club single. And the output has been diminishing over time. It’s auto-pilot revenue generation mode at the moment. I’m not sure how old all the band’s kids are - I hope in a few years when they have a bit more time on their hands and the kids are out the house they get back to spending more time on the band, songwriting and stuff like that. In a way, we’re lucky they haven’t broken up and just taken their foot off the gas. I’d echo the same concerns over what an Analog membership means now - I’d accept a physical CD bootleg of my choice each year as a replacement for a vinyl single!
    This is a great idea. I really hope they come up with details on the new club benefits ASAP.

    I also agree that the band sadly probably doesn’t spend much time together anymore. Hopefully they get in the studio soon and there is some sort of spark again. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    jheal said:
    The cold hard reality is that the band probably spend very little time together collectively anymore, outside of the few weeks they tour together, to record ANY new material let alone tracks for a fan club single. And the output has been diminishing over time. It’s auto-pilot revenue generation mode at the moment. I’m not sure how old all the band’s kids are - I hope in a few years when they have a bit more time on their hands and the kids are out the house they get back to spending more time on the band, songwriting and stuff like that. In a way, we’re lucky they haven’t broken up and just taken their foot off the gas. I’d echo the same concerns over what an Analog membership means now - I’d accept a physical CD bootleg of my choice each year as a replacement for a vinyl single!
    Fuck that if it's a burnt CD-R.
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  • cropdustdair
    cropdustdair Lakewood, CO / Earth Posts: 2,006
    Still a bit confused. My renewal is set for January 1st. Will I receive a shirt for 2018?
  • ShouldHaveBeenSomething
    ShouldHaveBeenSomething Posts: 159
    with such a middle of the road notification it sounds like they just don't want to allocate the resources to it anymore.  
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    demetrios said:
    Is there no way that Mike McCready's Hockeytalkter Records company could take over Pearl Jam's 10club annual Christmas 7" Single?
    i don't think it's pressing the vinyl that's the issue. it's the band not wanting to record material they won't make money on. and i gotta be honest, it's surprising to me it took this long. songs on vinyl hasn't been an 'exclusive' since file sharing began in the late 90's. so the band is essentially giving music away for free to anyone that wants it. 

    Yeah...when it started in 1991, it was a "thanks for sticking with us and here's something really cool on an almost-dead format." As vinyl fell out of favor in the 90s, it was really cool and a bit retro to get something in the mail for free.

    Now that vinyl has surged in popularity again, maybe the band sees it as sort of a "mission complete."
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  • Lost In Ohio
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    Jason P said:
    Not a huge loss considering I can only think of a handful of times in the past 15 years that the single actually showed up on my doorstep.  

    I always found it weird that some people seemed to be hit-or-miss. There was once when I didn't get it (the "No Jeremy" one.) I emailed 10C and politely asked them and they sent a replacement. The replacement came a bit damaged, but nothing too bad...just some minor cosmetic stuff on the sleeve... I emailed them a pic and they sent me a new one.

    Maybe your mailman is a fan/flipper...who knows.
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  • Lost In Ohio
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    stef1885 said:
    I really hope 10c doesn't go the way that the 'Metclub' went.  They removed all memberships benefits and basically disbanded the Metallica Fan Club, there were no fees to join, as no fan club, the only item left was priority tickets to those who had been in the Metclub previously.  Cynically / realistically! some Metallica fans thought this was all to save costs and 'effort' as a new company had been bought in to take over the running of the fanclub.  I don't know how close PJ members are to running 10c these days but i really hope they are aware of any changes being implemented. Stef1885.


    The band produces those songs/records... I have zero doubt that they were the ones to make the decision to end the vinyl.
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    I think they probably realised that if they didnt communicate something before the New Year they would be due 3 singles. Im sure they will announce the new plans early in 2019 once they have worked it out. I dont mind analog being dropped but hopefully it doesnt mean digital going up. I dont think its a reflection of the future of the band. Vinyl sales may be up but singles seem to have been on their way out for a while, saved for RSD. Ive got no idea if its at a point where it almost costs the same as an lp to manufacture or what but in the UK, a new 7" can cost anything between £7 and £15 to buy, silly prices.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    Lost In Ohio said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    demetrios said:
    Is there no way that Mike McCready's Hockeytalkter Records company could take over Pearl Jam's 10club annual Christmas 7" Single?
    i don't think it's pressing the vinyl that's the issue. it's the band not wanting to record material they won't make money on. and i gotta be honest, it's surprising to me it took this long. songs on vinyl hasn't been an 'exclusive' since file sharing began in the late 90's. so the band is essentially giving music away for free to anyone that wants it. 

    Yeah...when it started in 1991, it was a "thanks for sticking with us and here's something really cool on an almost-dead format." As vinyl fell out of favor in the 90s, it was really cool and a bit retro to get something in the mail for free.

    Now that vinyl has surged in popularity again, maybe the band sees it as sort of a "mission complete."
    Nice headcanon. But I can bet you that is not the reason.
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  • Lost In Ohio
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    PJWGIII said:
    jheal said:
    The cold hard reality is that the band probably spend very little time together collectively anymore, outside of the few weeks they tour together, to record ANY new material let alone tracks for a fan club single. And the output has been diminishing over time. It’s auto-pilot revenue generation mode at the moment. I’m not sure how old all the band’s kids are - I hope in a few years when they have a bit more time on their hands and the kids are out the house they get back to spending more time on the band, songwriting and stuff like that. In a way, we’re lucky they haven’t broken up and just taken their foot off the gas. I’d echo the same concerns over what an Analog membership means now - I’d accept a physical CD bootleg of my choice each year as a replacement for a vinyl single!
    This is a great idea. I really hope they come up with details on the new club benefits ASAP.

    I also agree that the band sadly probably doesn’t spend much time together anymore. Hopefully they get in the studio soon and there is some sort of spark again. 


    On that note, during "band hiatuses" there is usually a random sighting...someone sees Jeff in Montana or Mike does the anthem at a football game or someone may see Eddie at a gas station in LA.

    Since Fenway 2018? Nothing outside the two EV shows. No rumors, no sightings, nothing.
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