***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    Kat said:
    So how would everyone feel about it if the Mueller report showed evidence beyond a reasonable doubt about the kids and some evidence about puppetmaster himself and then a plea deal was made to not prosecute the kids if he resigns?
    I don't see lying about building a tower as an offense that warrants time in prison but, assuming the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, nor should puppetmaster be given the opportunity to resign.  Rather, it would seem to me to be more appropriate for him to be impeached and the whole lot of them banned from public service.  Let their shame be justice.
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  • People with actual experience in these kinds of things offering up fact based opinions. 

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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:

    I don't see lying about building a tower as an offense that warrants time in prison but, assuming the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, nor should puppetmaster be given the opportunity to resign.  Rather, it would seem to me to be more appropriate for him to be impeached and the whole lot of them banned from public service.  Let their shame be justice.
    The Trumps are up to some shady shit, most likely illegal shit...their shame should be them sitting in jail.
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  • Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    The Trumps are up to some shady shit, most likely illegal shit...their shame should be them sitting in jail.
    Perhaps, but they won't.

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    Steal a lot and they make you king."
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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Perhaps, but they won't.

    "Steal a little and they put you in jail.
    Steal a lot and they make you king."
    -Bob Dylan
    You are probably right...
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  • Incoming chair of the house judiciary committee.

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    Incoming chair of the house judiciary committee.

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    What kind of accountability? The House can investigate but that's it. They have no power to prosecute. 
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    edited December 2018

    What kind of accountability? The House can investigate but that's it. They have no power to prosecute. 
    They can expose the crimes committed and recommend and pressure the justice department to prosecute. They can withhold funding to the various law enforcement agencies responsible for holding those to account. All of which can be made into campaign issues.                                        
     
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  • Posts: 9,554
    OnWis97 said:
    I’d take that deal.  As long as Trump is out disgracefully, that’s a positive.
    Not sure a deal would be an option. He’d have to be impeached then kicked out before any legal consequences would be pursued. 
  • Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    edited December 2018
    Why not find evidence of the crimes that family has committed and toss them all in jail?  I'm sick of wealthy people getting away with crimes...
    My guess is that Mueller's single focus if he deems that the POTUS is corrupt, is to remove the POTUS. His paths in prosecuting this far all have seemed to be to achieve that end. Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war. 

    With 14 Republicans having voted to advance the conversation on Saudi Arabia in the Senate, I feel that was a symbol that the power dynamics have shifted. At least I hope the honeymoon is over - and I hope this means when the time comes for support, the Senate does what is demonstrated to them as being the right judgment call.
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    benjs said:
    My guess is that Mueller's single focus if he deems that the POTUS is corrupt, is to remove the POTUS. His paths in prosecuting this far all have seemed to be to achieve that end. Sometimes you have to lose the battle to win the war. 
    My gut, which isn’t the best gut but a very good gut, feels that he is almost robotically by the book, which means that his role is to find the truth but (correct me if I am wrong) any doling of consequences is not his concern.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    My gut, which isn’t the best gut but a very good gut, feels that he is almost robotically by the book, which means that his role is to find the truth but (correct me if I am wrong) any doling of consequences is not his concern.
    Correct. Team Mueller’s charge is to issue a fact finding report. It’ll be up to Congress and DOJ to mete out any consequences, if the report details crimes. Team Mueller will prosecute as he goes along, if the facts allow him to make a case before a grand jury and in court. Team Trump Treason is “protected” as POTUS, to some degree. Just a Matter of time.
     
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  • Seems that there may very well be a quid pro quo of sanctions relief in exchange for Team Trump Treason Tower Moscow. June 14, 2016 Sater and Cohen met in Team Trump Tower and Cohen told Sater he wasn't going to Moscow because the Washington Post reported that Russia had hacked DNC and Hillary's emails. VTB was committed to financing Team Trump Tower Moscow project but was under US sanctions. Team Trump Treason was advocating lifting sanctions in 2015 and Mike Flynn lied about it to the FBI.

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    Seems that there may very well be a quid pro quo of sanctions relief in exchange for Team Trump Treason Tower Moscow. June 14, 2016 Sater and Cohen met in Team Trump Tower and Cohen told Sater he wasn't going to Moscow because the Washington Post reported that Russia had hacked DNC and Hillary's emails. VTB was committed to financing Team Trump Tower Moscow project but was under US sanctions. Team Trump Treason was advocating lifting sanctions in 2015 and Mike Flynn lied about it to the FBI.

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  • Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.
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  • Posts: 49,594
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    Looks like Bobby will be adding some more witness tampering to his obstruction case with today's tweets.

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    edited December 2018
    Looks like Bobby will be adding some more witness tampering to his obstruction case with today's tweets.

    The president is an ignoramus of this highest magnitude. 
    It’s a good gut. The most beautiful gut.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1069619316319035392
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  • Posts: 9,554
    Karma coming at Don from all sides. Make sure the batteries for the defibrillator are at full charge. 

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The attorneys general of the District of Columbia and Maryland said Monday that they are moving forward with subpoenas for records in their case accusing President Donald Trump of profiting off the presidency.

    U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte approved the legal discovery schedule in an order Monday. Such information would likely provide the first clear picture of the finances of Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel.

    https://apnews.com/96a295d90acf449dbf41f6fee4c28d63




  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    2018
    Karma coming at Don from all sides. Make sure the batteries for the defibrillator are at full charge. 

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The attorneys general of the District of Columbia and Maryland said Monday that they are moving forward with subpoenas for records in their case accusing President Donald Trump of profiting off the presidency.

    U.S. District Court Judge Peter J. Messitte approved the legal discovery schedule in an order Monday. Such information would likely provide the first clear picture of the finances of Trump’s Washington, D.C., hotel.

    https://apnews.com/96a295d90acf449dbf41f6fee4c28d63




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    There are many roads that will lead to impeachment....
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