From the NYTimes: WASHINGTON — The whistle-blower who revealed that President Trump sought foreign help for his re-election and that the White House sought to cover it up is a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html
Odd that Mcguire said he didn't know the whistleblower's identity yet tRump said he was a "partisan" when the story first leaked.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Big question in the court of law is " was this illegal?" and "Is it an abuse of power?"
Also I think Biden is done too.
How? The Biden/Ukraine thing is bullshit. Debunked years ago.
This... I just read yesterday about that whole issue---talk about spin
If anything, it could help Biden.
I think it might help him too but he started slipping before this stuff even came up. Kind of undermines the whole thing about Trump being some kind of political genius if he went through all this trouble digging up dirt against a guy who doesn't even end up as the nominee.
What a fucking idiot.
True, Biden was already slipping for other reasons, and Warren is surging, which I think is awesome, and it probably infuriates Trump, which makes me happy. Especially since the only thing he can come up with against her is still the Pocahontas thing, which just makes him look like a racist.
Lying about your heritage or abusing your power of the presidency. Pocahontas or Benedict Trump? Rich spoiled brat or hard working middle class looking out for you and the environment? Squeaky clean or corrupt as they come? The choice will be glaring.
She wasn't even lying. She genuinely thought those were her roots because that is what she was always told by her family.
Yeah. I'm not even a big Warren fan but I agree with that take. It's what she was told since she was a kid so she just believed it. Lots of families have stories like that. That whole thing was way overblown.
But pre Ukrainegate Trump could have pummeled her on it. It makes her look dishonest in terms that non political types can easily relate with. Thise are the undecideds we need the most.
Warren does have great energy on a stage but her decision making ability has me concerned. That DNA test was stupid as was her decision that fly over country will support socialist healthcare.
From the NYTimes: WASHINGTON — The whistle-blower who revealed that President Trump sought foreign help for his re-election and that the White House sought to cover it up is a C.I.A. officer who was detailed to work at the White House at one point, according to three people familiar with his identity. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html
See, just the corrupt Washington elite and intelligence agency that is after trump. Just like the FBI. All against trump and partisan hacks!
and then same people that believe this pretend to love the flag, soldiers and the police force.
Big question in the court of law is " was this illegal?" and "Is it an abuse of power?"
Also I think Biden is done too.
How? The Biden/Ukraine thing is bullshit. Debunked years ago.
This... I just read yesterday about that whole issue---talk about spin
If anything, it could help Biden.
I think it might help him too but he started slipping before this stuff even came up. Kind of undermines the whole thing about Trump being some kind of political genius if he went through all this trouble digging up dirt against a guy who doesn't even end up as the nominee.
What a fucking idiot.
True, Biden was already slipping for other reasons, and Warren is surging, which I think is awesome, and it probably infuriates Trump, which makes me happy. Especially since the only thing he can come up with against her is still the Pocahontas thing, which just makes him look like a racist.
Lying about your heritage or abusing your power of the presidency. Pocahontas or Benedict Trump? Rich spoiled brat or hard working middle class looking out for you and the environment? Squeaky clean or corrupt as they come? The choice will be glaring.
She wasn't even lying. She genuinely thought those were her roots because that is what she was always told by her family.
Yeah. I'm not even a big Warren fan but I agree with that take. It's what she was told since she was a kid so she just believed it. Lots of families have stories like that. That whole thing was way overblown.
But pre Ukrainegate Trump could have pummeled her on it. It makes her look dishonest in terms that non political types can easily relate with. Thise are the undecideds we need the most.
Warren does have great energy on a stage but her decision making ability has me concerned. That DNA test was stupid as was her decision that fly over country will support socialist healthcare.
She made a mistake and admitted it...even apologized for it. That is nothing compared to tRump.
If I was her I would hammer him everyday on his failed businesses, bankruptcies, etc.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Big question in the court of law is " was this illegal?" and "Is it an abuse of power?"
Also I think Biden is done too.
How? The Biden/Ukraine thing is bullshit. Debunked years ago.
This... I just read yesterday about that whole issue---talk about spin
If anything, it could help Biden.
I think it might help him too but he started slipping before this stuff even came up. Kind of undermines the whole thing about Trump being some kind of political genius if he went through all this trouble digging up dirt against a guy who doesn't even end up as the nominee.
What a fucking idiot.
True, Biden was already slipping for other reasons, and Warren is surging, which I think is awesome, and it probably infuriates Trump, which makes me happy. Especially since the only thing he can come up with against her is still the Pocahontas thing, which just makes him look like a racist.
Lying about your heritage or abusing your power of the presidency. Pocahontas or Benedict Trump? Rich spoiled brat or hard working middle class looking out for you and the environment? Squeaky clean or corrupt as they come? The choice will be glaring.
She wasn't even lying. She genuinely thought those were her roots because that is what she was always told by her family.
Yeah. I'm not even a big Warren fan but I agree with that take. It's what she was told since she was a kid so she just believed it. Lots of families have stories like that. That whole thing was way overblown.
But pre Ukrainegate Trump could have pummeled her on it. It makes her look dishonest in terms that non political types can easily relate with. Thise are the undecideds we need the most.
Warren does have great energy on a stage but her decision making ability has me concerned. That DNA test was stupid as was her decision that fly over country will support socialist healthcare.
She made a mistake and admitted it...even apologized for it. That is nothing compared to tRump.
If I was her I would hammer him everyday on his failed businesses, bankruptcies, etc.
I’d hammer him every day on:
“There was no collusion.”
“I have nothing to hide.”
“I don’t know any Russians.”
“I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
“We do everything by the book.”
“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
“Very legal, very cool.”
“Fully exonerated.”
“Essentially no obstruction.”
Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.
g under p
Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122
2019
Two of my long ago predictions appear to be coming through.....
1. I said the day after Trump won the 3016 election something major is going to go down in three years. It appears that might happen I've got 3 more months.
2. I said to my client who was in tears that Trump had one.....I told her I would not be surprised that a woman would be the next President. I looked at how Obama came into office after the Bush years. The country was comfortable to elect a man of color to the presidency. Leading into next year's election I believe this country is NOW ready to elect a woman to become president ESPECIALLY after the 4 wonderous years we've had under Trump. If nothing else I certainly hope a woman can take over and set the sails straight for this country.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
I usually stick with NPR and the local news. Both seem to do the best job of keeping away from either side of the spectrum, better than others.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Is it biased to state data though? Fox is shit, but they are right about the majority not currently for impeachment. That’s not bias. It may change for sure, but Iran not bias.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
I usually stick with NPR and the local news. Both seem to do the best job of keeping away from either side of the spectrum, better than others.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Is it biased to state data though? Fox is shit, but they are right about the majority not currently for impeachment. That’s not bias. It may change for sure, but Iran not bias.
Stating Data is fine but when you have a whole group of people that don't believe in the data then it's a problem. Also spinning the way data is showed shows bias, that is what I meant.
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
That there appears to be the correct data at this point
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
That there appears to be the correct data at this point
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Yes they exist. Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Yes they exist. Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
Maddow? Really?
Shepard Smith I happen to love. He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
That there appears to be the correct data at this point
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Yes they exist. Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
Maddow and selective facts are like peas and carrots.
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
That there appears to be the correct data at this point
Clintons popularity soared after impeachment...
Which is sad. Talk about rooting for your team over what is decent and right.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Yes they exist. Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
Maddow? Really?
Shepard Smith I happen to love. He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
I enjoy Maddow a lot, but it still feels too sensationalized when I watch her. If I'm really charged up politically, I'll stream her show via podcast in the car. Mostly, I just listen to the 3-min national update and Up First podcasts from NPR. It's 15 minutes of my morning and then I move on for the most part.
I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
Haven't been in this thread in ages and not reading back, buuuuut seems like there is about a 100% chance of impeachment and a 0% chance of the Senate removing him from office, right?
That there appears to be the correct data at this point
Clintons popularity soared after impeachment...
Which is sad. Talk about rooting for your team over what is decent and right.
I guess democrats concern themselves less with a BJ than they do treason. Unlike Republicans.
Comparing Clinton impeachment to Team Trump Treason impeachment is ridiculous. White Water land deal morphs into Rose Law Firm billing records morphs into pork belly futures morphs into Vince Foster suicide morphs into the Lewinsky affair (talk about a witch hunt) versus Team Mueller investigating Team Trump Treason and Putin on the ritz interfering in our election morphs into Team Trump Treason asking Ukraine to interfere in our election (after declaring “Russia if you’re listening” and telling George Stephanopolous he’d accept foreign dirt on a political opponent). Get the fuck outta here.
I believe I saw a PBS poll had it at 49% before the complaint too.
Bottom line is this is just a much easier to digest issue than the Russia investigation is for most people. Easy and quick. A slam dunk, you might say.
It really is amazing how different political sides talk about things. Watching FOX yesterday and the message they were conveying that "impeachment is not wanted by a majority of the country." and yet this poll is growing to "yes" on impeachment. Show a poll to a conservative and they'll shoot it down too...
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Yes they exist. Even Fox's nightly news with Shepard Smith is fairly centered because he isn't a tRump drone.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
Maddow? Really?
Shepard Smith I happen to love. He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
Yes, really. She is liberal and she let's you know it. But she is always the first to let you know when she is using unconfirmed information. She consistently uses "if this is true" to preface information presented.
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Comments
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
But pre Ukrainegate Trump could have pummeled her on it. It makes her look dishonest in terms that non political types can easily relate with. Thise are the undecideds we need the most.
Warren does have great energy on a stage but her decision making ability has me concerned. That DNA test was stupid as was her decision that fly over country will support socialist healthcare.
and then same people that believe this pretend to love the flag, soldiers and the police force.
If I was her I would hammer him everyday on his failed businesses, bankruptcies, etc.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
https://apple.news/AX-PD8KPpRAO6QhMAmYNVkg
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
1. I said the day after Trump won the 3016 election something major is going to go down in three years. It appears that might happen I've got 3 more months.
2. I said to my client who was in tears that Trump had one.....I told her I would not be surprised that a woman would be the next President. I looked at how Obama came into office after the Bush years. The country was comfortable to elect a man of color to the presidency. Leading into next year's election I believe this country is NOW ready to elect a woman to become president ESPECIALLY after the 4 wonderous years we've had under Trump. If nothing else I certainly hope a woman can take over and set the sails straight for this country.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I don't see it happening.
The news shows are really getting tiresome. Does anybody read a source that isn't biased? Do they exist?
Stating Data is fine but when you have a whole group of people that don't believe in the data then it's a problem. Also spinning the way data is showed shows bias, that is what I meant.
Comparing MSNBC to Fox isn't fair. Fox's pundits just outright lie and use false stories and conspiracy theories as support. MSNBC pundits (Maddow, O'Donnell, etc.) are clearly liberal but they do not lie or use selective facts. They always present both sides of the story.
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Shepard Smith I happen to love. He really is the lone bight spot on all of FOX.
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana